Sarah.Scumbag Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 These shirts are amazing! I'll definately buy a couple once your online store is up.
Fuzz Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 It's a hard nut to crack... Imagine: I buy several copies of Dookie. I change the (now turned green) plastic box, so that it can hold two discs. The original CD is going back in, included with a DVD of several clips I downloaded from youtube (which is a lot of work and effort), cutting other people's camera work up into bits, add a nice menu and sound, and a Dookie DVD is done! I open up a store and put this Double-Disc Special Feature version of Dookie up for sale. Of course I really worked hard and I need to make some profit, so I'm asking a little bit more. Get the picture? (by the way, you were comparing the "selling it at a higher price" with shops like HotTopic... Well, they have a legal agreement with Warner. Besides, every organisation that sells items to make a living, has to pay taxes to the country's government every year for the material they sell... Because that's how the ball rolls in the world: you earn some (in a legal way), your country needs some too....) I'm a real and honest fan of your work, which is amazing;.. but this is (in my opinion) more illegal than legal The biggest difference though is that music and any performance of it hold much different copyrights than merchandising. You're always going to run into legal problems when you're selling something that contains video or music of the band because you did not buy the rights to the music to re-sell. I honestly don't know if the same thing applies to merchandise (in that you don't then own the right to re-sell something with their image on it). It might very well apply there as well, i just don't know.
Marlon_GD Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 The biggest difference though is that music and any performance of it hold much different copyrights than merchandising. You're always going to run into legal problems when you're selling something that contains video or music of the band because you did not buy the rights to the music to re-sell. I honestly don't know if the same thing applies to merchandise (in that you don't then own the right to re-sell something with their image on it). It might very well apply there as well, i just don't know. Yeah, While writing up my explanation, this came across my mind as well. Music is a little bit trickier... But I don't know, I think this explanation is transferable to merchandising... that's official "band material" as well... not so much as music, but still completely to make profit from the talent and work of those people that signed at your label... dunno
kristinsinferno Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 cute. i'd buy them if i had any monies...
Alllllli. Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 The biggest difference though is that music and any performance of it hold much different copyrights than merchandising. You're always going to run into legal problems when you're selling something that contains video or music of the band because you did not buy the rights to the music to re-sell. I honestly don't know if the same thing applies to merchandise (in that you don't then own the right to re-sell something with their image on it). It might very well apply there as well, i just don't know. This - you don't really see 'done-up' CD/DVDs on eBay but you see an awful lot of merchandise like this - bought, legally, and then customised and resold. Which leads me to think that maybe it's legal...? I'm sure eBay wouldn't (or would try not to) allow it if it was illegal. But, then again, most eBay stores selling similar things have a disclosure along the lines of "I don't own this but if you do and feel I'm infringing please let me know!" . Very confusing. I'm not sure either way! I would like to know now though, haha. But I absolutely love what you've done with them, they're awesome!
Supermodel*Robot Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 I think that it's legal because she's simply modifying old clothing. For example, there's people that make recycled seatbelt purses and I'm pretty sure they don't have an agreement with a hundred different car companies. It's only if you're printing off the images yourself and creating new merchandise that it's an issue. I think.
netty Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 erm... unless a seatbelt has the company logo on it aint no way anybody is going to be able to say for sure which company made them! these are identifiably green days. its using their image and their reputation and popularity. if these designs were purely made from t-shirts that had no logo on them.... they wouldnt be as popular maybe. certainly they will only be bought by fans of the band which is limiting but then again....green day have a huge fanbase. erm... if that makes any kind of sense. haha
†...HAUSHINKA...† Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 you see an awful lot of merchandise like this - bought, legally, and then customised and resold. Which leads me to think that maybe it's legal...? I'm sure eBay wouldn't (or would try not to) allow it if it was illegal. this...
Blondie0121 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 i would totally make you my personal fashion designer...these are amazing i would defintly buy any of your amazing creations.... i see fashion in your near future i would love to purchase some of your lovely art and support your talent!
blitzkriegdeb Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I think that the only way you could protect yourself from copyrights and whatnot would be to produce your own Green Day logo/design, and then have it screen printed onto your own t-shirts. The problem with your designs is that they are, to put it simply, modified band tees. If someone opened up their own shop using only Green Day t-shirts that had some of of edit to it, Warner/Reprise could sue you for copyright infringement, because your profiting from their copyrighted logo. (I hope this makes sense, I knew what I wanted to say but I couldn't figure out how to word it. But don't let it hinder your fashion career, you definatly have an eye for designs.)
Punk-tastic32 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I really like it, and I'm sure that the band would be pretty stoaked about stuff like this. They don't really seem to care about all the legal jargon and whatnot. They're just happy to see people liking what they do, and not being afraid to say to the world "Green Day rocks!" If they knew about what you do, I'm sure they would support you. But Warner, or whoever owns the rights to the images are the ones that you should be careful of. They are the "Hey! This is my Green Day!" But, don't let those jerkwads scare you , just keep doing what you're doing because you are great at it!
ParadoxAndPlaid Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Wow. You're really talented! I love the colors and prints you use together. Did you make up the designs yourself or use patterns? They're really well done. I can't really say weather or not this is copyright infringement, but legal or not, I doubt anyone will have a big enough problem with it to come after you. It's not like you're selling them at a bulk level and making hundreds of dollars a day. You're just making some custom artisan clothing for fellow fans, and doing a great job of it.
dawn71 Posted August 4, 2010 Author Posted August 4, 2010 I think that the only way you could protect yourself from copyrights and whatnot would be to produce your own Green Day logo/design, and then have it screen printed onto your own t-shirts. The problem with your designs is that they are, to put it simply, modified band tees. If someone opened up their own shop using only Green Day t-shirts that had some of of edit to it, Warner/Reprise could sue you for copyright infringement, because your profiting from their copyrighted logo. (I hope this makes sense, I knew what I wanted to say but I couldn't figure out how to word it. But don't let it hinder your fashion career, you definatly have an eye for designs.) if i open a shop I will be opening a punk shop with all types of custom band t-shirts and other items.
dawn71 Posted August 4, 2010 Author Posted August 4, 2010 Everyone please don't worry about the legal side of it. I am showing my designs to everyone on here to get some feedback on my designs. I wanted to get some opinions on my work to see if the response was good enough to open a shop. I went to the JAG lawyer for advice on laws on copyrights. Don't worry what I am doing is very legal he said. Its no different than a second hand store that has items that have copy written logos on them. The lawyer said a lot of second hand shops have items that have been altered from their original state. Items that are altered to fit and things along that line. Trust me before I open a shop and put myself out there like that I will make sure that i have dotted all the I's and crossed all the T's. From what the lawyer told me I have no worries. He did tell my to go ahead now and apply for a tax ID # so that when I do open my shop I will not have to wait on the paper work and I will be paying taxes on my business. I do appreciate all the input from all of you I know you are just worried that I might get in trouble and you were trying to warn me. Please don't worry I do have all of that under control. I will hopefully be posting a few new designs on here next week for you all to see. I have been working hard on new ideas.
JohannaRaeRamone. Posted August 4, 2010 Posted August 4, 2010 I don't know what more you could want in a top! They all look wonderful and creativly designed! I'd loooove to own one!!!
dawn71 Posted August 4, 2010 Author Posted August 4, 2010 I don't know what more you could want in a top! They all look wonderful and creativly designed! I'd loooove to own one!!! Maybe once I get enough made I'll send some to J'net and Andres to give away in a contest or something.
JohannaRaeRamone. Posted August 4, 2010 Posted August 4, 2010 Maybe once I get enough made I'll send some to J'net and Andres to give away in a contest or something. Not only would that be community service that would be great advertising! What a swell idea.
Punk-tastic32 Posted August 4, 2010 Posted August 4, 2010 Thinking of making bottoms too? I could totally for pants with patches all over them! ^^ PS.- sorry if you've answered this question before
Katarina. Posted August 4, 2010 Posted August 4, 2010 I only like the first one. If I saw that one in a shop, and it's not too pricey, I'd totally buy it.
dawn71 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Posted August 5, 2010 Here are more Green Day custom tops I just finished 1st one Front of top Close up of front picture on top Back of top 2nd one Front of top Close up of front picture on top Back of top 3rd one Front of top Close up of front picture on top Close up of back picture on top 4th one Front of top Close up of front picture on top Close up of back picture on top PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF THEM
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 The pictures are kinda small....
minorty13 Posted August 5, 2010 Posted August 5, 2010 It's really cool to see Green Day clothes that aren't just plain t-shirts The off the shoulder one is really cool! An Etsy shop would definetely be something to look into. I know tons of people that buy from shops there.
dawn71 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Posted August 5, 2010 The pictures are kinda small.... sorry they are so small I was trying to get all angles of the shirts without taking up 2 pages.
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