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I think that something like a mix of Insomniac, nimrod., American Idiot and 21CB would have been great... but I'm happy for whatever they does :thumbsup: But something like St.Jimmy, Bab's Uvula Who? and Platypus, and so on. But, I sure that I will love what we'll end up with anyway :happy:

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WHAT? back to the basic? why? C'mon guys,they have already been through that stuff before. :ermm:

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no, not dookie. not those about the miserable life of a teenager again. it won't fit them green day now, i guess.

i like how they sound now. although i also want songs with verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus pattern.

but yes, i may prefer an album that is not conceptual/rock opera.

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WHAT? back to the basic? why? C'mon guys,they have already been through that stuff before. :ermm:

Wait, when?

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back to the basic means that they had experienced this before,don't you think?

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An album like Nimrod would be great! I would love an album that has soft and fast songs, just like Good Riddance and Take Back.

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back to the basic means that they had experienced this before,don't you think?

Back to the basics means that they're going to keep it simple. No hugely complex works of art like American Idiot or even 21st Century Breakdown.

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I wanna see them push forward. Don't get me wrong, going back and making a Nimrod-esque album would be awesome. But one of the reasons why I love GD so much is because Billie, Mike, and Tre' always push themselves to do something more, to dig deeper and make something amazing. I love how they pushed themselves far and came up with 21stCB, and I'd love to see them try to top that. It would be quite a challenge to make something even more brilliant and honest than 21stCB, but I really think they can do it.

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An album like Nimrod would be great! I would love an album that has soft and fast songs, just like Good Riddance and Take Back.

I second that. Nimrod is great! I'd liked if they go back to that with new elements.

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I wanna see them push forward. Don't get me wrong, going back and making a Nimrod-esque album would be awesome. But one of the reasons why I love GD so much is because Billie, Mike, and Tre' always push themselves to do something more, to dig deeper and make something amazing. I love how they pushed themselves far and came up with 21stCB, and I'd love to see them try to top that. It would be quite a challenge to make something even more brilliant and honest than 21stCB, but I really think they can do it.

My sentiments exactly.

But I'd still like something ~out there.

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I'd like a fast, angry, yet clever album. I voted "back to basics", but it's not as simple as that.

Green Day is going into their 40's, probably around the release of the new album, and going back to snotty, easy, plain punk-rock music would be a shame, when they now have reached a whole other creative level. That said, i'd still like a more energetic record, than the past two. Songs like St. Jimmy, Horseshoes and Handgrenades and Murder City is good examples of the kind of energy i'm talking about. But with no ongoing theme or plot throughout the album.

As someone ealier in the thread also put it, stadium rock but harder..!

The greedy fan inside of me is saying "Release a 3-CD record with 45 songs (of all kinds), god damnit, we want it!" though

I guess i'm still a little disappointed that those news were false, back in the day before 21CB... :unsure:

But i'm sure that it'll be great no matter what, so let's not worry!

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This is a difficult question. While I love old Green Day and always will, I don't think it would be a good idea for them to go back to that. I don't want Green Day to become one of those bands who keep doing the same things over and over just because it has worked and thus far, they haven't been that band and I am so proud of them for that. Because it would have been so easy for them to just keep making albums that are exactly like Dookie or to later on make albums exactly the same as American Idiot but they haven't done that and I have a lot of respect for them because of that. So, I think it would be a real shame if they started to like go backwards musically. I hope they do what they have always done, push boundries and try new things and if they do that, I will be a happy and proud fan.

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I really really want them to experiment. They showed what they can do with different music genres on 21cb they should continue that. Maybe an entire album of peacemaker type songs. I'm holding out for a psychedelic rock album i think it would interesting to see what they can do with that, a weird album of psychedelic 60s rock. Anything they haven't done before i would like to see.

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I'd feel so much pressure it I was them :unsure:

everyone expects something new and never seen before...who knows what they come up with! some greatness I imagine

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I would like if they make like a Nimrod-Dookie album. but even they will make a different album, I will have a good feeling about it :)

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But I'd still like something ~out there.

To be honest i dont see "Green Day" doing that. if they decide to do something like this it would most likely be through a side project...

But the question about the back to basics is not a yes or no question because it depends on firstly what you mean by "back to basics" if you are after an album that is similar to Dookie or even Nimrod, i think this would be a bit of step back from where they are at the moment. for any other band to come up with something similar to Nimrod would be outstanding. Green Day can produce an album like Nimord in their sleep, so doing that would not be much of an acheivement. I think they need to keep going forward and coming up with something even more different and better than what they have done before, as much as we would love for them to come up with an album with simple, pure punk songs i very much doubt that would be the direction they would go with....

in saying that (like i said in the other thread) its really hard to know what they will come out with, and i pretty sure they dont know themselves, but like most of you have said already, whatever it is we can be certain in will be brilliant,.. since we all know that these guys wont rest until they have something spectacular...

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I really really want them to experiment. They showed what they can do with different music genres on 21cb they should continue that. Maybe an entire album of peacemaker type songs. I'm holding out for a psychedelic rock album i think it would interesting to see what they can do with that, a weird album of psychedelic 60s rock. Anything they haven't done before i would like to see.

This with devo hats.

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In my opinion, They Should Back To The Basics, Mixing All their Content of the 90's

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Who said that? I could agree with you if we talk about the dookie, the insomniac, the nimrod era.

But Warning is mostly a record of pop songs (of a good quality, obviously) or pop-rock songs.

American Idiot is a record of pop-pun songs, very good pop-punk songs

21st CB is a mixture of pop songs, pop rock songs and pop punk songs.

I think you cannot compare Insomniac and 21stCB (talking about genres), and that's what I mean when I say they're making more pop songs.

You're getting it way off, i'm sorry.. You, and alot of others in that argument... Pop isn't even a genre. Pop is a shortened version of the word 'popular', and you can put it in front of everything that is "popular" at a period of time. Green Day is a Punk/Rock band, because they have a most common use of 'Rock' and 'Punk' aspects in their music, both musically and in their lyrics. Green Day is a pop-punk/rock band, and by that i mean a 'popular punk/rock band', and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the music or anything else. It just means that Green Day is a popular band.

If you mean that Warning in general had softer songs than their previous, i'm absolutely agreeing with you, that's a fact. But Dookie were alot more 'pop' than Warning (Again, knowing the exact meaning of the word, and the number of records sold, individually)

Rock, Punk, R'n'B, Country, Metal and so on, that's genres... Pop is a term. And it's opposite is unpopular. And if you on purpose try to make music, that nobody likes, then you're just about stupid not that clever...

(Sorry for freaking out on you a little bit. This is just something that always gets me off)

Edit: To get to the topic, i'd say that 'Back to basics', could be interpreted as alot of things

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You're getting it way off, i'm sorry.. You, and alot of others in that argument... Pop isn't even a genre. Pop is a shortened version of the word 'popular', and you can put it in front of everything that is "popular" at a period of time. Green Day is a Punk/Rock band, because they have a most common use of 'Rock' and 'Punk' aspects in their music, both musically and in their lyrics. Green Day is a pop-punk/rock band, and by that i mean a 'popular punk/rock band', and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the music or anything else. It just means that Green Day is a popular band.

If you mean that Warning in general had softer songs than their previous, i'm absolutely agreeing with you, that's a fact. But Dookie were alot more 'pop' than Warning (Again, knowing the exact meaning of the word, and the number of records sold, individually)

Rock, Punk, R'n'B, Country, Metal and so on, that's genres... Pop is a term. And it's opposite is unpopular. And if you on purpose try to make music, that nobody likes, then you're just about stupid not that clever...

(Sorry for freaking out on you a little bit. This is just something that always gets me off)

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You're getting it way off, i'm sorry.. You, and alot of others in that argument... Pop isn't even a genre. Pop is a shortened version of the word 'popular', and you can put it in front of everything that is "popular" at a period of time. Green Day is a Punk/Rock band, because they have a most common use of 'Rock' and 'Punk' aspects in their music, both musically and in their lyrics. Green Day is a pop-punk/rock band, and by that i mean a 'popular punk/rock band', and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the music or anything else. It just means that Green Day is a popular band.

If you mean that Warning in general had softer songs than their previous, i'm absolutely agreeing with you, that's a fact. But Dookie were alot more 'pop' than Warning (Again, knowing the exact meaning of the word, and the number of records sold, individually)

Rock, Punk, R'n'B, Country, Metal and so on, that's genres... Pop is a term. And it's opposite is unpopular. And if you on purpose try to make music, that nobody likes, then you're just about stupid not that clever...

(Sorry for freaking out on you a little bit. This is just something that always gets me off)

Edit: To get to the topic, i'd say that 'Back to basics', could be interpreted as alot of things

I sort of agree with you in the sense that yes Pop initially was just short for Popular but nowadays that has become a genre. other wise what genre would you put the boy bands of the worlds and lady gagy, katy perry and the like..

with the way music is at the moment this has become its own genre

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But I don't have a preference for the new record, whatever Green Day want to make it more than fine by me <3

This is very true, and I will be more than satisfied with whatever they will do (within borders, obviously. I don't think I'd like it if they started doing hiphop :lol:), but that doesn't mean you can't have a preference ('you' in general).

I don't want them to go backwards, but that doesn't mean they can't make something that sounds a little more like their older stuff (not meaning imitating their old stuff, but ... yeah, idk). I really, really don't mind the political epic thing, though. I don't want them to go backwards, but you can keep experimenting, exploring, discovering, expanding without having to make epic (in the 'old' meaning of the word) records like 21stCB.

I just can't seem to put what I think into words about this.

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I sort of agree with you in the sense that yes Pop initially was just short for Popular but nowadays that has become a genre. other wise what genre would you put the boy bands of the worlds and lady gagy, katy perry and the like..

with the way music is at the moment this has become its own genre

I see what you're saying. But still, it's just people not knowing what to call it.. I'm sure the average boyband have music with aspects of both rock and eletronica, and a whole lot of other stuff too im sure, that i don't want to get into, because it's not my strong side (boybands). But as i see it right now.. Boybands are not that popular anymore! So rather just call it 'boyband-music' than pop.

And to begin with, i don't even think that the invention of 'genres' were thought to have this great impact on musicians in general. I mean, people are affraid of being mocked as 'sellouts', 'mainstream' and pop, all the time, when actually, it only keeps some musicians from evolving the way they want...

The music-industry fucking sucks

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Honestly, I don't mind them coming out with a conceptual album whatsoever. Neither do I mind them having songs that just have a theme within the sound/style, which exists in all of their albums. Most people seem to disagree, but I do like the semi-political aspect they take on in their more recent work. It's awesome. I'd like some more of that.

But, there is one thing I'd hate to see, and I highly doubt they'd do it:

They better not let Hayley Williams feature in any of the fucking songs. I. will. die. This whole having Paramore open for them made me nervous enough. Let's hope it ends there.

where did you hear she was going to feature in green day songs?

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well id like to have something like.....not too basic...i mean like dookie or nimrod would be cool but also american idiot-ish so best of all would be a mix of all :)

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