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Well....

We're still arguing about this? :lol:

Can you think of any other band like Green Day? Their last two albums were in fucking acts. Nobody seems to care about politics anymore, except Green Day. The only shit you hear in music anymore is about how wasted the character got, how awesome skinny bitches in thongs are, and how great of a job the weed did for them last night. Nobody sings about the real issue anymore.

And American Idiot being made into a MUSICAL. On BROADWAY. What they're doing is incredible. and it's different, which is supposed to be the whole point behind "punk".

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I agree. Becuase of the fact that you will never get a band that sounds like or talks about the same subjects as green day they are following punk ideals. They are compleatly different and are proud to be like that. And I dont think any of us would like them if they werent like that would we?

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I think it depends whether we're talking about punk as a type of music, or as a philosophy/approach to life. Sound-wise Green Day have evolved above and beyond just being a punk band. But I think the bandmembers see punk much more as an approach to life and music than just a description of what the music sounds like. They grew up with those ideals that they learned from their local punk scene and believed in them wholeheartedly, and they've stuck with them to this day. They're punk, no doubt about it.

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I don't know, and I don't care about that actually

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I don't think Green Day revived punk, but they definatly helped break it into the mainstream. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but bands like NOFX, Operation Ivy, The Offspring and Bad Religion were all doing the 'punk' thing before Green Day had even put out the 1,000 Hours 7". I may have only been a kid in 94 but I remember the whole Punk fiasco. I remember seeing Rancid and Green Day on MTV and it was no big deal, it was more or less concidered 'alternative'. I think the world was just ready for that kind of music at that time, and Green Day along with Rancid and NOFX, etc helped bring the whole punk influence into the mainstream. However, I think if Green Day would have recorded Kerplunk with a bigger budget, it would have been just as big as Dookie.

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I think it depends whether we're talking about punk as a type of music, or as a philosophy/approach to life. Sound-wise Green Day have evolved above and beyond just being a punk band. But I think the bandmembers see punk much more as an approach to life and music than just a description of what the music sounds like. They grew up with those ideals that they learned from their local punk scene and believed in them wholeheartedly, and they've stuck with them to this day. They're punk, no doubt about it.

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I think it depends whether we're talking about punk as a type of music, or as a philosophy/approach to life. Sound-wise Green Day have evolved above and beyond just being a punk band. But I think the bandmembers see punk much more as an approach to life and music than just a description of what the music sounds like. They grew up with those ideals that they learned from their local punk scene and believed in them wholeheartedly, and they've stuck with them to this day. They're punk, no doubt about it.

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I think they aren't punk in the music they did. But they were punk in their way of thinking. Doing what you want and stuff. It's kinda funny I'm listening to the song Reject right now. Thinking for yourself - being an individual. That's punk. Not dressing like a 'punk', gettin some metal rings in the nose and thinking of being cool if you spit on the sidewalk. There are too many people who misunderstood punk completely. They think it's hard music. btw. I hate 'Hardcore Punk'. That's a point where you can see what people think of punk: music. It's a way of thinking and it's of course associated with music. There are many people at my school who think they are punk because they are listening to that music. Most of all 'Hardcore Punk'. But 99% of them wears name brand clothing. That's exactly the wrong way. A 'real' punk doesn't go around saying 'oh yea look at me i'm a punk.' Green Day were punk and still are punk.

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I think they aren't punk in the music they did. But they were punk in their way of thinking. Doing what you want and stuff. It's kinda funny I'm listening to the song Reject right now. Thinking for yourself - being an individual. That's punk. Not dressing like a 'punk', gettin some metal rings in the nose and thinking of being cool if you spit on the sidewalk. There are too many people who misunderstood punk completely. They think it's hard music. btw. I hate 'Hardcore Punk'. That's a point where you can see what people think of punk: music. It's a way of thinking and it's of course associated with music. There are many people at my school who think they are punk because they are listening to that music. Most of all 'Hardcore Punk'. But 99% of them wears name brand clothing. That's exactly the wrong way. A 'real' punk doesn't go around saying 'oh yea look at me i'm a punk.' Green Day were punk and still are punk.

exactly there are soo many posers out there and they think that if you dress punk then you are punk. no. once you say you are punk then your not punk at all. its a way of aproaching life and yea being an individual and not trying to impress people or look "cool" some people are so stupid they think they know punk when they know absolutely nothing :mad:

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My opinion is they did :)

Well Nirvana did as well, but that's not what we're talking about here.

The Sex Pistols were around in the mid 70's as everyone knows, but I think not that many punk bands were around til Green Day came along.

So Green Day basically revived punk xD

"Thankyou Green Day!!"

:)

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i think they certainly did... Grunge was the reining genre in the early 90's, but when Cobain died all the grunge fans, or any mainstream music fans looked to other bands. The release of Dookie was perfect timing as it offered a fast angry and energetic alternative to grunge. They put punk music into the mainstream after many years of it being an underground operation. Some people say there not punk cause "Punk Died" or "punk was in the 70's" but that is a load of crap. I dont think that music should be classified by its era, but by its content... Short answer, Green day turned punk music into a international phenomenon.

Green day revived punk and brought it to the masses. Green Day is a punk band!!!! No matter what any green day haters say. Thank you Green Day!!!!! :eyebrow: :banana:

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Yes, of course. Green Day appeared when The Ramones and the Sex Pistols was falling.

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Labels, labels, labels, labels. For the few among us who have ever written a song themselves they will realise that you don't go out of your way and say 'I'm going to write a punk song now' you write a song the way you're feeling. If people went out of their ways to write songs within certain genres we would have alot of very bland, unemotional, fake music around. Yet if we must stick some kind of label onto this band I'd say that Green Day have sounded punk in the past and although Billie's lyrics still retain a very punk rock feel to them the music they're making now sounds more stadium rocky, kind of like Queen.

Stadium rock tends to feature songs with slick production with emphasis on vocal harmonies on the choruses featuring unnatural emphasis on large anthemic hooks and choruses. Yet Punk Rock was always very DIY. Originally punk bands self produced their albums and had very stripped down instrumentation which Green Day doesn't have anymore. Yet punk lyrics tend to be very anti-establishment which Green Day's still are with the majority of songs on 21st Century Breakdown albeit alot more mature than how they used to write. So, if a label has to be given you could call Green Day a Post-modern Stadium Punk Rock band. Happy now?

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So, if a label has to be given you could call Green Day a Post-modern Stadium Punk Rock band.

I like it.

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I just class GD as "rock". Like yes okay, sometimes I'd say it's more punk-rock but that's sort of how I think of their earlier stuff and even then it's not quiiite how I think of punk. And then other times it's more pop-rock, and sometimes I wouldn't even say it's rock at all. I think that's partly why I like them as well, that they can do so many different genres and it's still them, and I think that's because they don't really have a category that fits them exactly.

PHGP is pretty much what I think punk music is haha, maybe I'm wrong but that's how I see it.

There it is.

I just like GD awfully lot. It is just a combination on good lyrics and chords.

Damn, they just rock! I like!!

-R-

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1...2....3....CLEAR!!! Green Day is amazing!!!

fuck yea

the totally fuck with people when they ask if their punk or watever. i think theyre just really sick of being asked that and talking about it. i mean, i would be if people had been talking about it for 20+ years. it gets old. its just music. its good music. lets focus on the MUSIC for fucks sake.

i dont think theyre the type of people that feel the need to explain their actions. its how they want to do music, take it or leave it.

/rant

Yeah I agree with you. I don't care what people consider their music to be I thinks it amazing.

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are green day punk? yes, punk as fuck. did they revive punk? no, there was nothing to revive.

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In my opinion, PUNK is all about doing what the fuck you want, and to be honest, that's what Green Day's about, and Green Day has been around since PUNK. Therefore concluding that PUNK has never gone away, because Green Day has always been there :D

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In my opinion, PUNK is all about doing what the fuck you want, and to be honest, that's what Green Day's about, and Green Day has been around since PUNK. Therefore concluding that PUNK has never gone away, because Green Day has always been there :D

Yes this. I feel they have gotten people to question the nature of contemporary music once again and for people to not become so complacent in the world they live in.

I wouldn't say they revived punk, just made it more well known to those who didn't know it to begin with.

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I don't think I'm one to say whether they're punk or not. Usually I just call it rock 'n roll. Obviously they've got punk roots and everything so... I suppose they've revived punk in some ways. Anyway, I don't really care what people will call it. They're just Green Day, and that's good enough for me. (:

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well green day isn't exactly punk (now) but they used to be punk rock and their favorite bands were punk soooo.... yes, they revived punk, just like offspring...and punk isn't dead, punk will never die. it's like the energy. u can't create neither destroy energy... u can only change its form and transfer it somewhere else... just like punk. punk changes forms (punk rock, pop punk, skate punk etc), hair color, fashion trends and places where it's being played (london-new york-california). it will change, but never die!

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Well, all I just can say is, Green Day is Punk !

I said that because Punk is not just about the beat of the music, or getting high in the stage !

Punk is about being true to yourself, say what you want to say, and of course DIY,

Green Day do this

Green Day always make a song based on what they want to make without thinking about criticism from others

and also make a songs about what happen now, in this chaos world, that's punk

They mixed up the work, fun, ideology, in all one thing called Green Day

if anybody said that Punk is anti Media and anti famous, it's totally Bullshit !

Green Day do this because they not Anti Media, on the contrary, they "use" these media !!

one time, Mike Dirnt said: (On Good Riddance: Time of Your Life): "Putting that song on our record was probably the most punk thing we could do."

WHY? because they dared to create beautiful and unusual PUNK song without thinking of other people's opinions to them.

That's called Punk

that's my opinion..^^ thx :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Green Day is not punk.

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GREEN DAY IS PUNK!!!

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"Green Day is not punk.

i fixed it.

anyway, church on sunday is pop rock imo. basket case = punk or garage punk.

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