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Yes! I definately think that Warner isn't promoting Green Day properly.

First of all....I don't think that their single choices were...as good as they could have been, and I think that 21st Century Breakdown DEFINATELY should have been a US single.

And then their first music video for Know Your Enemy wasn't very good at least in my opinion. The video was way too dark and it just wasn't exciting enough. Good music videos are essential for a lot of people, especially teenagers because, if they were watching VH1 or MTV, they will a lot of the time judge the video based on a couple of seconds. I'm like this too. If I come across a music video with tons of girls in skimpy clothing, the setting's in the club, and everyone is flashing their money, then obviously I'm not going to watch it. But obviously, Green Day's video didn't have any of that, but....it just wasn't exciting enough. :/

Another BIG reason why the promotion is bad, is because stupid Walmart won't sell 21CB in their stores! For a reason that is completely idiotic, because they'll still sell Dookie which talks about masterbation, and the only thing "wrong" with 21CB is the cussing. That's it. And seriously...you could put all of the cussing from different albums together, and it STILL would not be as outrageous and degrating as hearing rap songs talking about fucking women and doing this and that.

Seriously....the promotion is so bad in my opinion, that when I see a person walking in the halls at school with a 21CB t shirt, I consider them a true GD fan.

I'm sure there's a lot more that I wanted to say...but I can't think of anything else right now. :lol:

That's weird. May 15th after school I ran as fast as my legs could take me to Walmart to get a copy, and they had this big shelf with a cardboard version of Christian and Gloria kissing above it. It was pretty awesome. Also, when I see someone wearing a 21CB shirt, I consider them cool. When I see someone wearing a Kerplunk shirt, I consider them a true GD fan.

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That's weird. May 15th after school I ran as fast as my legs could take me to Walmart to get a copy, and they had this big shelf with a cardboard version of Christian and Gloria kissing above it.

Walmart didn't sell it in the US. You're from Canada right? Maybe that's why you were lucky to get a copy in Walmart.

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Walmart didn't sell it in the US. You're from Canada right? Maybe that's why you were lucky to get a copy in Walmart.

Yeah, that's really weird how Walmart wasn't selling it in the US. ;\

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Yeah, that's really weird how Walmart wasn't selling it in the US. ;\

Yeah, I know! It's weird because it's like...21CB got promoted way better in other countires besides the US.... :blink:

And well...the reason why I say that I would consider them a true GD fan if they wore a 21CB t-shirt, is because of GD being so poorly promoted in the US. Not a lot of people know about it. And my school has like....almost 4,000 students in it, and I've only seen 3 people wearing GD shirts.

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it saddens me that green day is getting very little promotion this time around. when AI came out green day was everywhere but now not so much. i only heard 21 guns on the radio a couple times and the video about ten maybe, all the other videos got no promotion at all or very little and hardly any radio play. as far as this whole tour goes i am on the verge of giving up but im not going to do that because there is still some hope and i have been patiently waiting 5 years to see them. i have been coming on here everyday like many of you hoping that they post the second leg of the US tour and so far everyday is a disappointment. they didnt come to my town over the summer and im litterally praying they come to my state. i hate to be negative but im really starting to think there wont be a US tour and if they do come back it will be very short or they will only play in a couple states. the tour dates should have been announced already. i know that they are very involved with the american idiot musical but my concern is why should the musical be in march when green day are still touring? shouldnt the musical be in the fall or whatever when green day are done touring? i mean honestly i think thats why we are given lack of tour dates because of the musical. the musical is holding back more tour dates because its in march. i dont know but green days management better get their shit together. :dry:

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Maybe this is a blessing in disguise. When AI came out, so many fans that weren't true fans emerged and almost dirtied Green Day.

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I think they actually probably like it being more low key. It takes the pressure off them a little bit. They definitely seem more relaxed in interviews than they did during the AI era. And the live shows reflect that as well.

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Patience is a virture :wink:
OMG Kryssi, you're killing me with all your secrets and winking! :lol:
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I think we just need to be patient. We get what we get, and we should be grateful for it because they work so hard.

I agree

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OMG Kryssi, you're killing me with all your secrets and winking! :lol:

Hahaha, well that's what I'm here for, right? :wink::wink:

I can't really say anything right now, because I don't want to jinx it for John.

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Hahaha, well that's what I'm here for, right? :wink::wink:

I can't really say anything right now, because I don't want to jinx it for John.

Yeah I understand. :) I am so excited and I'm not even really sure what for!
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I think they actually probably like it being more low key. It takes the pressure off them a little bit. They definitely seem more relaxed in interviews than they did during the AI era. And the live shows reflect that as well.

Yeah, I do agree, although it would be kinda nice getting more cred. although....I guess Green Day have all the cred. they deserve over the years really, being respected as a musician and all. But yeah...I bet it is nice for them to be able to relax and do their own things aside from the band. And I DEFINATELY agree. They seemed so uptight all of the time in interviews during the AI era. So I guess it's all good, because they're getting cred. for being great artists, but still have time to enjoy other things without being pushed, or attacked. That's the good thing about them not being as big as they were with American Idiot.

In a way, I think that the "low key promoting" was intentional in the first place, because even when it came up that they were releasing the album soon, there wasn't a huge buzz or anything about them.

But...a little more popularity and credit would be nice, I think. So...it goes both ways.

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Yeah, I do agree, although it would be kinda nice getting more cred. although....I guess Green Day have all the cred. they deserve over the years really, being respected as a musician and all. But yeah...I bet it is nice for them to be able to relax and do their own things aside from the band. And I DEFINATELY agree. They seemed so uptight all of the time in interviews during the AI era. So I guess it's all good, because they're getting cred. for being great artists, but still have time to enjoy other things without being pushed, or attacked. That's the good thing about them not being as big as they were with American Idiot.

In a way, I think that the "low key promoting" was intentional in the first place, because even when it came up that they were releasing the album soon, there wasn't a huge buzz or anything about them.

But...a little more popularity and credit would be nice, I think. So...it goes both ways.

Yeah thats a good point. I think it would be cool if there was more buzz over this album, and it does deserve it, its an amazing piece of work. I just don't think it matters to them that much at the end of it all, they make records to go on tour, and they are about to do the biggest shows of their lives in the summer, so things are still going very well for them. American Idiot will always be practically impossible to match in terms of hype and impact, I think perhaps they have peaked when it comes to popularity, but who knows what the next few years bring, maybe the next album will blow everything they have ever done out of the water. Green Day are a very very difficult band to analyse and so unpredictable :) Thats what I love about them.

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AI won't be hard to match. That's what people said about Dookie. The band is capable of reaching the full mainstream like they twice before - but that's not their goal with each album, so I don't think that's a measure that's worth anything.

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^ Yeah, that's a Good point Andres! I kinda think that could also go with a lot of other artists. They're always looking for different things each album, whether they want it to be a huge hit or not, (Which a lot of the time, I don't think a lot of bands fully expect it to be huge, until it does.) but there are some bands that put out albums solely to be popular. I don't think Green Day are like that. So yeah, I don't think AI would be hard for them to match either, because if they did it once, they can obviously do it again.

Yeah thats a good point. I think it would be cool if there was more buzz over this album, and it does deserve it, its an amazing piece of work. I just don't think it matters to them that much at the end of it all, they make records to go on tour, and they are about to do the biggest shows of their lives in the summer, so things are still going very well for them. American Idiot will always be practically impossible to match in terms of hype and impact, I think perhaps they have peaked when it comes to popularity, but who knows what the next few years bring, maybe the next album will blow everything they have ever done out of the water. Green Day are a very very difficult band to analyse and so unpredictable :) Thats what I love about them.

Yeah. I definately don't think that popularity never did matter to Green Day. I think for them, it's all about being successful in what they want to accomplish in the band and sort of pushing for that one amazing, creative album. This is why I think that Green Day are unique, when it comes to comparing them with other bands. I think that GD's mindset goes a lot deeper on focusing just on being a great band. That's it.

I think a lot of people thought that Green Day sort of seemed like they were all in it for the fame and success during American Idiot, but really I think that it was like....they saw how much potiental American Idiot had, and they realized just how big and popular it was getting, so they decided to go all out and make everything about that album sort of, I guess, emaculate when it comes with their image with what they wore, to all of the music videos. Everything about AI, they settled for nothing but the best. And that takes a lot of ambition on their part. And also, that's when they realized that success really isn't a bad thing. They were just trying to push themselves as just individuals in general.

Now, with 21CB, there's no doubt that they were also ambitious with this album as well. But, I think that their intention and outlook on this album was different, when it came to how big they wanted the album to be and how much promotion that they wanted. I think that they decided to play it on the low key. They're not really focused on wanting this album to be hugely popular or anything like that. I think they wanted to go for creativity for the most part, and decided to take huge risks with the album. Because, it's like...they have already proven to themselves and everyone that they are a great rock band, but I think this album was more of doing things on their own and proving to themselves that they could surpass AI and accomplish something greater. So I think Green Day really are one of the most humbling bands out there. :happy:

And also, if you look at all of Green Day's albums in order, the only two that have ever been a MAJOR success at being fully mainstream was Dookie and American Idiot. Nimrod I guess was sort of mainstream, but I think that only had to do with "Good Riddance". So...between Dookie and American Idiot, there's three albums between that. So obviously when it comes with any band, not every single album is going to be really huge to the mainstream, you know?

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