Am I the only one...

[Nikki_Nimrod]

I wish . I can't see it though.

Anyway, I'm happy with this choice . It's annoying that they seem to have abandoned and wasted East Jesus Nowhere and 21st CB, but putting that aside I like Last Of The American Girls as a single choice. It's unexpected and interesting. And it's not often you get a male songwriter who writes with such understanding of the female point of view and creates such strong, complex female characters! I love the lyrics of this song and it'll be refreshing to hear it on the radio amongst so much crap.

I agree! Warner was horrible with putting out 21CB and EJN, I never heard either of them on the radio, or saw either video on MTV :/

But LOTAG is such a beautiful song, and it gives a lot of potential for an interesting video! Hopefully they'll give it the promotion it deserves, i can't wait to start hearing it more and more.

This. WHERE IS HLAHG?!?!?!?!?!?

I've been wondering the same thing

[Velocity]

Last night when a bunch of people and I were watching the Grammys and Green Day won their award, someone I know said "Why are they only getting a Grammy now? Isn't their album really old by now?" I had to explain to him that no, their newest album came out in May.

That made me realize how little exposure 21st Century Breakdown has actually gotten. Most of the public doesn't even know that there's a new Green Day album. It's actually really sad considering the tremendous amount of effort that went into the making of this record.

What's ironic is, does anyone remember that article back from around May, where there was some interview with someone from Reprise talking about how the promotion for the album was gonna be massive? (I remember reading it, I wish I'd saved it so I could post it here.) They talked about the album art graffiti in all those cities, there was the Rhapsody commercial, but it seemed like as soon as the album came out all of that intense promotion that was promised suddenly disappeared.

Something is seriously wrong here.

[Poprocks&Coke79]

Yeah, a lot of my friends didn't know that 21st Century Breakdown existed, either. One of my friends is a HUGE Green Day fan, but I had to tell him about 21st Century Breakdown. To me, that doesn't seem right. The only reason he didn't know about their new album was because he doesn't get on the computer very often. You shouldn't have to get on a computer to know about a new Green Day album. That doesn't make sense to me....

[Eeefaa.]

yeah, no one really has heard of their album and i havent heard a song from 21CB on the radio ONCE, im sorry, but that is very annoying... compared to some of the trash that gets played now...

and i wouldnt mind but the video for 21CB was pretty darn cool

[novacaine_kid]

It's true that a lot of people don't know about 21CB. Its really surprising, especially as its been almost 9 months since it came out. I remember talking to an old friend of mine online not so long ago, she used to be a big Green Day fan, still likes them but her music tastes have changed a lot to the point she doesn't really listen to them much now. I asked her if she had the new album and she just said "What?! Theres a new album? Since when?"

I also think part of the problem could be the endless comparisons to American Idiot, I feel they are in AI's shadow, at least when it comes to promotion and sales. Thats natural really, considering how huge that album was. But with that said, its appalling how neglected 21CB is. Everyone knows Muse has a new record out, and as soon as someone like Coldplay or Lady Gaga has something out it will be pushed to the hills. So it baffles me as to why this has been so poorly presented. Thing is, if they really had a problem with it themselves, they can't do much as they are probably tied to a lengthy very well paid contract. They would be sued if they just took their ball and went home.

[Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love]

What's ironic is, does anyone remember that article back from around May, where there was some interview with someone from Reprise talking about how the promotion for the album was gonna be massive? (I remember reading it, I wish I'd saved it so I could post it here.) They talked about the album art graffiti in all those cities, there was the Rhapsody commercial, but it seemed like as soon as the album came out all of that intense promotion that was promised suddenly disappeared.

Something is seriously wrong here.

I vaguely recall that article, yes. I'll see if I saved it when I get back on my own computer, I saved almost all the articles that came out before/right after the album was released so there's a fair chance I still have it somewhere.

[Tiffx]

It's true that a lot of people don't know about 21CB. Its really surprising, especially as its been almost 9 months since it came out. I remember talking to an old friend of mine online not so long ago, she used to be a big Green Day fan, still likes them but her music tastes have changed a lot to the point she doesn't really listen to them much now. I asked her if she had the new album and she just said "What?! Theres a new album? Since when?"

I also think part of the problem could be the endless comparisons to American Idiot, I feel they are in AI's shadow, at least when it comes to promotion and sales. Thats natural really, considering how huge that album was. But with that said, its appalling how neglected 21CB is. Everyone knows Muse has a new record out, and as soon as someone like Coldplay or Lady Gaga has something out it will be pushed to the hills. So it baffles me as to why this has been so poorly presented. Thing is, if they really had a problem with it themselves, they can't do much as they are probably tied to a lengthy very well paid contract. They would be sued if they just took their ball and went home.

So true.

It just depresses me a little to think that an amazing record like 21CB, with so much depth and complexity, has been largely pushed aside. I mean obviously if you're online everyday and on a Green Day forum then you're going to know about the new record, but what about everyone else.

I love Muse and I'm glad their album has been promoted well and people are responding to it, I just wish I could say the same for 21CB.

[JeanJeanie]

I kind of view 21 Century Breakdown as a Sgt. Pepper type record. Its fucking fantastic, but not necessarily filled with single worthy tracks. You really have to listen to it over and over to appreciate and digest it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that except that today's audience is so fueled by instant gratification that its hard to sell an album like this. That's just my working theory on why the album hasn't been capitalized on more at least.

I think "21 Guns" was an excellent choice, but I would have put it out first. I think "Last of the American Girls" was a great choice too. It catchy and young men can put it on mix CDs to their girlfriends to try and get laid. Always a big selling point.

[dolce]

^ That is absolutely true. I've thought from the beginning that 21CB was truly an ALBUM. It's not meant to be listened to in bits and pieces, and to take a song here or a song there to play on the radio. It's one piece of art, not 18 different pieces, you know? I mean, obviously the songs are great individually, but to get the full impact, you MUST listen to the whole CD, and I love that, because no musicians really do that anymore.

[novacaine_kid]

I kind of view 21 Century Breakdown as a Sgt. Pepper type record. Its fucking fantastic, but not necessarily filled with single worthy tracks. You really have to listen to it over and over to appreciate and digest it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that except that today's audience is so fueled by instant gratification that its hard to sell an album like this. That's just my working theory on why the album hasn't been capitalized on more at least.

I think "21 Guns" was an excellent choice, but I would have put it out first. I think "Last of the American Girls" was a great choice too. It catchy and young men can put it on mix CDs to their girlfriends to try and get laid. Always a big selling point.

I'd definitely go along with that. Its something that you need to really take time to listen to and appreciate in your own way. Its not an album where you can pull random singles out and turn them into top 40 hits. And I'm glad that is the case.

[Nova-Caine]

I agree that 21st CB is not an album of radio friendly singles, its a piece of work that needs to be listened to in its entirety.

[JeanJeanie]

.... I love that, because no musicians really do that anymore.

Agreed 100%.

[Vrock09]

I agree Warner hasn't done enough promo for GD this time around. Clearly it has something to do with money, because obviously that's what they're in for, but I think failing to promote Green Day as they should of is wrong!

I'm also confused on whether EJN or 21st Century Breakdown is a single

and don't get me started with the confusion the night of the 21CB premiere, that was chaotic and had no direction clearly which was a failure of Warner because of failing to promote it right.

As far as charts I can care less of whether GD's on top or not, but I DO care when they are being misrepresented and I feel like they've been getting fucked around on that part.

Hopefully they decided to do another North American tour, but my guess, with the musical and summer UK dates, that it probably won't be til next fall, if that

[Kryssi.]

This. WHERE IS HLAHG?!?!?!?!?!?

Patience is a virture :wink:

[valeria carci]

yeah... the lack of tour dates makes me crazy

I'm still waiting for a latin dates :/

[valentinesandcigs]

To me this is the exact same thing that happned with Dookie.

Dookie was fucking huge and no one thought that Green day where gonna follow that up. Insomniac comes out its a Great album and its a perfect follow up to Dookie but Green day are still in the shadow of Dookie at this point and Insomniac pretty much tanked. Green day didn't really escape that shadow until American idiot.

Now Green day are in the shadow of American idiot and 21st century breakdown a fucking great album and the perfect if not better follow up to American idiot goes unnoticed just like insomniac.

Thats just my take on it i have no idea when they're gonna escape the shadow of American idiot but i hope people can learn to move on from Boulevard of broken dreams and listen to some new songs.

[Rebel07]

Warner is failing to do anything properly.

this. :/

[Kryssi.]

If only they would work harder with promotion and media this time around... I guess it's down to PR and guerilla marketing and advertising.

[Nzap]

For me it's funny to hear that people haven't heard 21st CB and are tired of hearing 21 guns on the radio and TV.

here in Finland I have seen the 21st CB video 3 times (which is a little), KYe about 10 times and 21 guns once

On the radio pretty much the same ratio except KYE a little less.

And for Gods sake they should come here on their next tour. They've been in Sweden, Norway and Denmark on every tour since Dookie, and they have been here once, and that was in in 95 or 96.

[Opezi]

im sure if this was a real problem GD would know and do something about it. they wouldnt just sit back and be kicked around

[Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love]

What's ironic is, does anyone remember that article back from around May, where there was some interview with someone from Reprise talking about how the promotion for the album was gonna be massive? (I remember reading it, I wish I'd saved it so I could post it here.) They talked about the album art graffiti in all those cities, there was the Rhapsody commercial, but it seemed like as soon as the album came out all of that intense promotion that was promised suddenly disappeared.

Something is seriously wrong here.

Do you happen to recall from what website/magazine/medium that was? Because I have around three million billion trillion articles saved and don't exactly feel like reading them all

a side note on that, it's funny to read the song descriptions from when you didn't know the songs and you couldn't imagine how it sounded, how much you (or at least, I did) tried to get as much information about the songs yet you still didn't really know much, and to reread that now the album isn't new anymore and everything is familiar, and all the descriptions suddenly make sense (or have lyrics wrong, that too). I'm sorry for the terrible grammar in that last part.

[Katarina.]

a side note on that, it's funny to read the song descriptions from when you didn't know the songs and you couldn't imagine how it sounded, how much you (or at least, I did) tried to get as much information about the songs yet you still didn't really know much, and to reread that now the album isn't new anymore and everything is familiar, and all the descriptions suddenly make sense (or have lyrics wrong, that too). I'm sorry for the terrible grammar in that last part.

Yeah, it really is! I'm actually reading the magazines I have (Q and AP I think) more often, just to read the descriptions again to see the connection with the actual songs. It's nice, cause I remember writing every little detail about the songs on a piece of paper, to think about how it would sound. But of course we had no idea till May 15 <3

[Malleus]

I definitely agree with everything in this thread. It's scary how popular American Idiot was and 21st CB is getting little exposure. 21st CB is piles better than AI, even though AI was a definite change in Green Day and awesome.

[Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love]

Yeah, it really is! I'm actually reading the magazines I have (Q and AP I think) more often, just to read the descriptions again to see the connection with the actual songs. It's nice, cause I remember writing every little detail about the songs on a piece of paper, to think about how it would sound. But of course we had no idea till May 15 <3

Yeah, exactly.

And I remember my thread about all the clues and lyrics we got. And the 21CB Virgin thing

[Modern Zero.]

Yes! I definately think that Warner isn't promoting Green Day properly.

First of all....I don't think that their single choices were...as good as they could have been, and I think that 21st Century Breakdown DEFINATELY should have been a US single.

And then their first music video for Know Your Enemy wasn't very good at least in my opinion. The video was way too dark and it just wasn't exciting enough. Good music videos are essential for a lot of people, especially teenagers because, if they were watching VH1 or MTV, they will a lot of the time judge the video based on a couple of seconds. I'm like this too. If I come across a music video with tons of girls in skimpy clothing, the setting's in the club, and everyone is flashing their money, then obviously I'm not going to watch it. But obviously, Green Day's video didn't have any of that, but....it just wasn't exciting enough. :/

Another BIG reason why the promotion is bad, is because stupid Walmart won't sell 21CB in their stores! For a reason that is completely idiotic, because they'll still sell Dookie which talks about masterbation, and the only thing "wrong" with 21CB is the cussing. That's it. And seriously...you could put all of the cussing from different albums together, and it STILL would not be as outrageous and degrating as hearing rap songs talking about fucking women and doing this and that.

Seriously....the promotion is so bad in my opinion, that when I see a person walking in the halls at school with a 21CB t shirt, I consider them a true GD fan.

I'm sure there's a lot more that I wanted to say...but I can't think of anything else right now.