NowhereBound Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 um NO Billie Joe is a Frontman, therefore he is not taking over...
Tiffx Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 Yes Billie gets heaps of attention in interviews and from people who maybe aren't huge Green Day fans. But there are many more fans, like many of us on GDC, that appreciate the BAND and their music for what it is. So I don't think Billie is intentionally aiming to take over the band or anything like that. It's more about media perceptions and representations.
Greenday_Aussie Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 I think its just because Billie is a whole lotta man with a femine touch....IwillnotthinkgaythoughtsIwillnotthinkgaythoughts
Isabel Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 Yeah, I know that. But the main reason why I quoted that was the fact that he said that singers being the center of attention has always been the problem with pop music, and it's true. American Idiot may have made them famous, but they've been a band for a long time and have already been one of the biggest rock bands. Dookie sold even more than American Idiot. I'm sure that they've been through rough times together even before 2001, like in 1995. But the thing is, Billie made a very good point in that part of the interview. It doesn't matter what year the interview was in, and even though that interview was 2001, Larry and Billie were talking about past things that have happened to them as a band. I don't know...I just don't think Billie is "taking over Green Day". It's just ridiculous. Yeah, he can act like he's the most important for being the leader, but he's used to being the leader, and the thing is, he's not perfect. He has his flaws just like every other human being in the world. But I think if there was a problem about Billie supposibly getting more attention than Mike and Tre, then they'd resolve it. And also, if the thing Billie, Mike, and Tre cares about the most is their music, then why does Billie talking the most in interviews such a big problem? The reason why he gets more attention is because the media sees him as the frontman, and like Billie said, that's always been the problem with pop culture.Well I'm not surprised that Dookie may have sold more than American Idiot, it's been around 10 and a half years longer. :/ The only reason I felt it irrelevant that the interview was from 2001, was because people can change very easily. With increased affluence and power, especially. American Idiot made Green Day very rich and they turned corporate, almost. Now I'm not saying they're these big corporate jerks who only care about how many records they sell, but really, we just don't know anything about them personally. We only find out what they choose to reveal in interviews.I'm just trying to think of it from every perspective. At the end of the day, they're still my favourite band and I love them to bits.
Modern Zero. Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 Well I'm not surprised that Dookie may have sold more than American Idiot, it's been around 10 and a half years longer. :/ The only reason I felt it irrelevant that the interview was from 2001, was because people can change very easily. With increased affluence and power, especially. American Idiot made Green Day very rich and they turned corporate, almost. Now I'm not saying they're these big corporate jerks who only care about how many records they sell, but really, we just don't know anything about them personally. We only find out what they choose to reveal in interviews.I'm just trying to think of it from every perspective. At the end of the day, they're still my favourite band and I love them to bits. Yeah, I understand what you're trying to say, but the thing is, Dookie sold around 10 million copies only the first couple years it was out. And also, there are plenty of newer bands, when their first album becomes successful, it goes to their heads and they become cocky and arrogant. Green Day weren't like that. I know that it was fact they just wern't used to the fame, but most bands who arn't used to the fame let it go to their heads easily. 21 years into being a band, you are going to have pride in that, which can be confused with arrogance possibly. But I think they do a good job at being humble. And there have probably been times were Tre and Mike have been a little arrogant as well, not just Billie. So why are people singleing Billie out? And like I've said before, they're not perfect. And I know that they got a lot of fame and money from American Idiot, but they did for Dookie too. They're been "corporate" since they became mainstream, but I think most of that is from the media, not themselves. I know that American Idiot was a huge step for them, especially since they really havn't been popular since....basically Nimrod, so I can see what you're saying, and I agree with that. But it's just...I don't think Billie has acted any different then when he was younger...I don't know if that's just me, but I think that he's very humble compared to others bands, espcially after the success of American Idiot. But yeah, Billie has his moments, but so can Mike and Tre. I just don't think that "Billie getting more attention" is such a big problem if they're so close as friends, it really shouldn't matter. I mean...if you watch interviews before American Idiot, Billie has always talked more in interviews than Mike and Tre. That doesn't mean he does it because he's "taking over" or wants attention. Mike to me doesn't seem like the type to talk too much in interviews, only when he wants to, and then Tre of course has to add in the comical relief But I think the reason why Billie talks the most is because....let's just face it...he kinda talks a lot xD He does, he rambles on and on and gets off subject easily. That's just Billie for you.....you know? lol
Isabel Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 But I think the reason why Billie talks the most is because....let's just face it...he kinda talks a lot xD He does, he rambles on and on and gets off subject easily. That's just Billie for you.....you know? lolI think you've answered your own question about why people single him out. Probably because he's seen as the main form of communication between the band and the rest of the world.And yeah, I imagine they're very humble people. Sure they donated the procedings of BOBD to charity and Billie Joe himself took a huge chunk out of his time to help rebuild houses in 2007 after the hurricane.I'm just speculating about what I know; because after all, I can only base my opinions on interviews, etc. I guess I just picked up on a few things based on his gestures, comments, etc. and especially since Mike and Tre don't talk that much during interviews, it's easier to single out and criticise what Billie Joe says and does, because well, he does most of the talking!
Modern Zero. Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 I think you've answered your own question about why people single him out. Probably because he's seen as the main form of communication between the band and the rest of the world.And yeah, I imagine they're very humble people. Sure they donated the procedings of BOBD to charity and Billie Joe himself took a huge chunk out of his time to help rebuild houses in 2007 after the hurricane.I'm just speculating about what I know; because after all, I can only base my opinions on interviews, etc. I guess I just picked up on a few things based on his gestures, comments, etc. and especially since Mike and Tre don't talk that much during interviews, it's easier to single out and criticise what Billie Joe says and does, because well, he does most of the talking! lol yeah. Even in his Green Day band messages that he used to do, he rambles on and on.....and on....and then he has a bad habit of saying "you know" a lot xD It's like "Yes Billie.....we know!" I love him though. xD
Guest Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 billie joe would like to take over because he is secretly mistress simone.... mmmmmm domination......
dirtyapathy Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 I think that Mike and Tre like it that way. And I'm pretty sure Mike has said that before.Besides, he does try to include them. That's pretty obvious, when you pay attention.I doubt he can even help it, he rambles when it's just him in an interview too.
forget_me_nots Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 I think its just because Billie is a whole lotta man with a femine touch....IwillnotthinkgaythoughtsIwillnotthinkgaythoughts Haha, I do enjoy your man crush on Billie even if you don't.
Ony'92 Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 hmmm...I don't think BJ taking over and even if it be like that,i don't think Mike and Tre are upset
diylobotomy Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 it doesn't seem like Billie's taking over.I mean, the lyrics are HIM. i mean if they all wrote the lyrics then yeah i'd say billie was taking over, but they didn't.and besides, at least he doesn't take credit for writing all the songs. and what if mike and Tre don't really want attention. I think it's pretty evenly distributed, but obviously Billie's going to be talking the most or being the most active- he's the front man. and if mike and Tre had a problem with it, Green Day wouldn't have been standing as long as they have been.
Bryn Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 I realized that too. It makes me smile. Just like when he asked if Billie wanted to mic, cause he kept diving in to answer.Hmmm....no, I thought I heard her mention something was wrong with the Mike not being close enough to Billie, so they were moving them because when he was talking it was not audible. I don't speak German though, but that is what I inferred. I think Billie has always talked more than the other guys, but I have seen all three guys talking this time around, and I like that. So as for taking over, no, don't really see that.
Tiffx Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 I've noticed in older Green Day interviews from like Dookie to the Nimrod era Billie never seemed interested in interviews, like he seemed like he didn't WANT to speak in them. Now he seems much more open and willing to blab on about shit. Just something I've noticed. It doesn't mean he's taking over the band because that's just ridiculous.
94th nimrod. Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 I don't think Billie is taking over the band. He's just doing his job as a frontman. And I think that if Mike or Tré had want to say something, Billie had let them, but I don't think Mike like to talk so much in the interview and Tré's just himself with all his jokes. Somebody of them have to say something, and that's Billie. That's what I think
Jack96 Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 I think its just because Billie is a whole lotta man with a femine touch....IwillnotthinkgaythoughtsIwillnotthinkgaythoughts Ididnotthinkgaythoughts
kokonut_soda Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 I'm sure that by this point, Mike and Tre have accepted the fact that no matter what, Billie will always get more attention. I'm sure it may bug them a little bit from time to time, but Billie's their friend, and it's not like he's intentionally always putting himself in the spotlight.And ultimately, they're musicians, not actors competing for the spotlight. So whatever.
Starred Thoughts Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 agreed that Billie is the frontman, so he inevitably will get more attention. the guys are great friends, and considering that they've been together for roughly 20 years, they can certainly manage whatever issues that arise amongst themselves.
minorityxdisturbed Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 He's the frontman, if they have a problem they talk about it, maybe he speaks more in the interviews becouse it's about the lyrics, if it is about other things Mike and Tre talk a lot too, but they are so different, Billie in the interviews is serious, Tre so funny and Mike it's more normal, they talk when they think it's time to be funny or serious
EmmOuGR Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 The guys know each other since highschool..What makes you think that after all these years they would make their own solo carreer?And besides if BJ wanted to pursue his own carreer he would dumbed the band in 2004 when AI was released because that was the time when they became universally known..
gloria. Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 I don't think Billie is taking over.As EmmOuGR said, Billie's more serious is interviews, Mike is normal and Tre's just hilarious. Billie sometimes has more to say - he is the one that wrote most of the lyrics, so he obviously understands what to say about the music.But Mike and Tre are capable of speaking too.Mike's normal in these situations and Tre is probably thinking of something crazy to do/say.
Mommy's Little Nightmare Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Why is this thread even still open?It's all the same things being said by... everyone. Billie Joe is the frontman. Billie Joe is the elected leader. No, he's not taking over.Blah, blah, blah.Hermione said it best, however. And I also don't see anyone else trying TO argue that Billie Joe is taking over the band. It's all people saying that he's not. So if there's not even any argument in the matter... why are we repeating ourselves?
Opezi Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 yeah he is the frontman and they are cool w./ it if they weren't they could beat him up. like if you remember - billie talked about his younger days, how mike threatened to beat him up if he didn't sing...making him front man sooo yeah
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