Astrid. Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 The fish is most likely in perfect condition!! They wouldn't let a fish die. Come on! It was most likely already in that glass, or whatever it was, before Gloria hit that aquarium. They aren't going to let the fish come out through that broken glass.
Katarina. Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 What's up with all those worries about that fish?
Bastard of 1967 Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 You're good! I just thought of some meaning for fishy and its bowl.Its bowl gets shot, and the water gulps out in some sort of waterfall, but fishy ends up in a jar and survives.Maybe that's something like you're life is sliding away under your feet, it's not your fault but you have absolutely no control over it, if something like that happens don't give up hope because maybe you'll end up alright anyway.Good one right back at ya -- I think your observation fits the end of "See The Light" pretty well -- "the ever after/is in the hands of fate" (LOVED seeing part of the lyrics to it on the wall in the video BTW). Fate, in this case, being a broken jar that appears to have gone flying *into* the aquarium at some point during the melee.I wonder...might fishy be symbolic of the effects on others that Christian's and Gloria's actions are causing? Kind of like the collateral damage that occurs during warfare?
Foxboron Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 Good one right back at ya -- I think your observation fits the end of "See The Light" pretty well -- "the ever after/is in the hands of fate" (LOVED seeing part of the lyrics to it on the wall in the video BTW). Fate, in this case, being a broken jar that appears to have gone flying *into* the aquarium at some point during the melee.I wonder...might fishy be symbolic of the effects on others that Christian's and Gloria's actions are causing? Kind of like the collateral damage that occurs during warfare?fish points back to chirstianity, wich is where billie got the anem "gloria" and "chiristan"in the latin christian Worship, if you take every first letter in the sentence, you will get the latin word for fish.FOUND IT:"Its popularity among Christians was due principally, it would seem, to the famous acrostic consisting of the initial letters of five Greek words forming the word for fish (Ichthys), which words briefly but clearly described the character of Christ and the claim to worship of believers: Iesous Christos Theou Yios Soter, meaning, Jesus Christ, Son of God, Saviour."Wikipedia Is Your Friend <3
IscoredWaddlesgoals Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 It's alright, a bit over earnest. There needs to be more Mike & Tre as well. And stop worrying me about the fish !
Katarina. Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 fish points back to chirstianity, wich is where billie got the anem "gloria" and "chiristan"in the latin christian Worship, if you take every first letter in the sentence, you will get the latin word for fish.Well, that could be it.. I've had a similar subject about that 'fish', here it's called Ichtus, and why it's a christian symbol.I highly doubt it has anything to do with it, I mean, it's just a fish in their vid, but still, there's more about that fish symbol here, wikipedia? xDhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthys
theeulogy Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 Great but....I don't really know what's wrong....maybe the action is not really bigI think,the song is much more emotionalSo I still miss Samuel!!!!!XDAnyway, I love the video Tre^^
Renjini Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 i like it, but it was too focused on billie joe :/. Even though he's the frontman, he still got way too much attention. Even the characters were more focused on than Mike, Tre, and Jason. It's still a good video though...
Katarina. Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 I don't really get why they let Jason be in it as well.I mean, you only see him like, twice
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 Good one right back at ya -- I think your observation fits the end of "See The Light" pretty well -- "the ever after/is in the hands of fate" (LOVED seeing part of the lyrics to it on the wall in the video BTW). Fate, in this case, being a broken jar that appears to have gone flying *into* the aquarium at some point during the melee.I wonder...might fishy be symbolic of the effects on others that Christian's and Gloria's actions are causing? Kind of like the collateral damage that occurs during warfare?Ooh, yeah, and then that also explains why the See The Light lyrics are on the wall. (and then why it is a jar can refer to J.A.R., but that's probably just a coincidence and/or me looking to deep into things)Mm...Christian starts the gunfire (maybe also because of Gloria in some way), which causes chaos in the world around them (the bowl that breaks and empties), but because of the gunfire fishy is also saved (the jar is then one of the shot jars). But then that'd mean that, even though they fixed the problems they caused, C&H cause their environment to get worse, which isn't the result/moral/ending of the album or any song. Or at least, I didn't really see that yet. (although I haven't really looked at the meaning of the songs/album yet.)Meh, forget about this.edit: fish points back to chirstianity, wich is where billie got the anem "gloria" and "chiristan"in the latin christian Worship, if you take every first letter in the sentence, you will get the latin word for fish.FOUND IT:"Its popularity among Christians was due principally, it would seem, to the famous acrostic consisting of the initial letters of five Greek words forming the word for fish (Ichthys), which words briefly but clearly described the character of Christ and the claim to worship of believers: Iesous Christos Theou Yios Soter, meaning, Jesus Christ, Son of God, Saviour."Wikipedia Is Your Friend <3That seems pretty accurate. And explains it. Good find!
Foxboron Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 Well, that could be it.. I've had a similar subject about that 'fish', here it's called Ichtus, and why it's a christian symbol.I highly doubt it has anything to do with it, I mean, it's just a fish in their vid, but still, there's more about that fish symbol here, wikipedia? xDhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthys.. i posted it.but i actually eblive it was placed there becouse of it....like he named gloria and chirstian after christanity....
Katarina. Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 I'm actually really curious about the next single/video (I hope EJN) to see a video with a lot of humor, like Nice Guys Finish Last, or stunts or whatever, like Walking Contradiction
Isabel Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 I'm watching it again on Kerrang and I think the band are very good. I would have preferred the video to just be them playing. Their expressions really capture the severity of the song.But like, the whole Christian and Gloria thing just doesn't work for me at all.
Kaddi. Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 All I can say is...Bring back Sam Bayer.I like the video, but still... if you watch the videos for the AI singles and compare them to the new videos and also to the older ones, you really see the difference. Sam Bayer did a great job.
tvrman Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 I do not think I have seen so much airplay for something in recent times, not complaining at the moment. In the last hour it has been shown 3 times; Kerrang x2 and Scuzz x1, and I saw it twice this morning as well !I have only seen the long/proper version so far (phew there is an advantage to being in the UK) .I understand the shorter version does not start with Christian dropping the bullet, is that true ? If so, that must be very disappointing, it is such a good opening.tvrman
emmaILGD! Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 I do not think I have seen so much airplay for something in recent times, not complaining at the moment. In the last hour it has been shown 3 times; Kerrang x2 and Scuzz x1, and I saw it twice this morning as well !I have only seen the long/proper version so far (phew there is an advantage to being in the UK. I understand the shorter version does not start with Christian dropping the bullet, is that true ? If so, that must be very disappointing.tvrmanI saw the shorter version today, it's not good at all, it skips most of the guitar solo. But I didn't catch the start, so I don't know about the bullet thing.
SlappyDJ1 Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 I do not think I have seen so much airplay for something in recent times, not complaining at the moment. In the last hour it has been shown 3 times; Kerrang x2 and Scuzz x1, and I saw it twice this morning as well !I have only seen the long/proper version so far (phew there is an advantage to being in the UK) .I understand the shorter version does not start with Christian dropping the bullet, is that true ? If so, that must be very disappointing, it is such a good opening.tvrmanIt doesnt have that and they skipped half of the solo.
Nova-Caine Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 I'm watching it again on Kerrang and I think the band are very good. I would have preferred the video to just be them playing. Their expressions really capture the severity of the song.But like, the whole Christian and Gloria thing just doesn't work for me at all.Glad I'm not the only one :/
Isabel Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 Glad I'm not the only one :/Phew, me too!The next video needs to be done Feeder style, like Just A Day
stopdrop&roll! Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 I've just watched it,and I really really like it! I think it suits the song pretty good,and it's just beautiful.I love that we get to see christian&gloria,she looks just like I imagined.The band looks awesome,gotta love the close-ups and 360s of bj <3 ohh and lol at the lip-thing I really like the slow-mo bits,especially when tre hits the drums.And I love the fact that jason is in it (:The whole shooting thing looked great,and I like how there's light shining through the cracks,fits very good to the see the light lyrics on the wall.Also I love the surviving fish<3overall,the video is totally not what I expected it to be like,but it's great and perfect for the song.It's not their best or most creative video,but it's awesome (:
theeulogy Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 Don't u think they could make the video for THAT song without doing the main accent on Christian and Gloria?
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