amy_runs Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Maybe the fish represents FaithInSillyHypocrisyorFireIsSoHotorThe goldfish is considered to be a classical Chinese symbolism to represent gold, wealth, abundance, and harmony. orGoldfish in Feng Shui are seen to be creators of good luck and positive outcomes in new endeavours and in particular matters of business. In Chinese the word “yu” can mean fish but also means success. So keeping fish or having an ornament or product with a fish or goldfish on it in the Feng Shui tradition is a means of attracting prosperity. As a goldfish is also beautiful it is also seen to bless us and our environment with beauty through its colours. The fish brings the natural world (through being an animal and living in water) into our home or work environment. Dragons in Feng Shui and Chinese culture represent luck, wisdom and power and goldfish are often seen to represent baby dragons. So in that way they also bring luck.orMaybe they just wanted a pet fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermodel*Robot Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Does anyone else think that Christian is a babe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Y'know i didn't really understand it either, but i justified it in my own mind by making up a random plot:the police were outside because Christian managed to kill one of his dealers and he wouldn't come out so they began to shoot. and then they're both high and they dont really realize that they're in danger so they dont hit the floor when the bullets fly. But then Gloria gets a call from her neighbor across the street saying that the cops aren't going to go away and they accept the fact that they're gonna die. so they just makout a bunch. On a more serious note, i actually see the sirens outside as the "cops of a new religion" mentioned in EJN. and the bullets are all the lies and pain that's been thrown at them. And all they can do is wait it out and enjoy eachother's love while they still can.I need to look at it again to be sure I saw this correctly -- but in the first, say, third of the video, just before the bullets start flying, Christian picks up the TV remote. When he aims it at the TV, it *becomes* the gun and instead of firing IR beams at the TV, it's firing bullets everyplace. So the shots aren't coming from outside the room, they're coming from *inside* it, from Christian, and he's blowing away everything regardless of who or what it is, barely missing the one he supposedly loves (Gloria).I still can't make sense of the phone in the fishbowl. That's just weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I need to look at it again to be sure I saw this correctly -- but in the first, say, third of the video, just before the bullets start flying, Christian picks up the TV remote. When he aims it at the TV, it *becomes* the gun and instead of firing IR beams at the TV, it's firing bullets everyplace. So the shots aren't coming from outside the room, they're coming from *inside* it, from Christian, and he's blowing away everything regardless of who or what it is, barely missing the one he supposedly loves (Gloria).I still can't make sense of the phone in the fishbowl. That's just weird.That's a good one!I thought about something different (when he tries to watch a programm, the bullets prevent him from it, as if he isn't allowed to just forget about his problems but gotta deal with it, but that doesn't really make any sense with the rest of the video.), but your ... thing. Analyzation? seems way better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsrule128 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 it's kind of rude Jason White was in the videowhere the hell is Jason Freese and Jeff Matika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermodel*Robot Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 it's kind of rude Jason White was in the videowhere the hell is Jason Freese and Jeff MatikaJason is WAY more a part of the band than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countrygirl Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 THE FISHIE DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO DESERVE THIS! Dude, the fish isn't real. Didn't you see the bullet hole disappear after it shot through near Gloria's shoulder? It was gone after a few seconds. The fish tank didn't break and the fish wasn't real. It was all computerized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moz Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 wow, great video - the light effects were cool, and they picked the perfect actors to play Christian and Gloria. I thought I mostly understood it, but after reading this thread I can't believe it could have so many subtle meanings. I still don't get what the significance was of all the water coming out of the goldfish tank, but it must mean something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musse Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 FireIsSoHotYes! (I think it's just a fish.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farah Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 it's kind of rude Jason White was in the videowhere the hell is Jason Freese and Jeff Matikawell he's also in the WMUWSE vid.. (dunno if he's in others, but that's the first one that comes to mind that i know for sure :b) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Ellie# Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Terribly sorry if anyone else has picked up on this (I really cbf to read through so many posts), but with regard to poeple wondering why they've got Gloria and Christian making otu after the gun shots..I read/heard somewhere in an interbveiw that Billie was talking about influences for the album.. and he mentioned something along the lines of there being a riot or fire or something, and a coiuple kissing in the midst of it all..Hence the video?edit:quotage from Q magazine " Billie Joe Armstrong: it's a record about chaos and fire in the streets and revolt and people marching down the street with torches while you're making out with your girlfriend, I guess."when the band was asked what 21st Century Breakdown was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farah Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Terribly sorry if anyone else has picked up on this (I really cbf to read through so many posts), but with regard to poeple wondering why they've got Gloria and Christian making otu after the gun shots..I read/heard somewhere in an interbveiw that Billie was talking about influences for the album.. and he mentioned something along the lines of there being a riot or fire or something, and a coiuple kissing in the midst of it all..Hence the video?yeah that's what i thought for that part..it's kinda like the image that billie gave us when he made that description...isn't it?anyway, we should ask green day about the whole meaning of this video and the details next time if we ever have another oportunity to ask them q's like we did for absolute radio lol xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katherine Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I see a slight resemblence between Gloria and Adrienne? Maybe it's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miqui_Dee Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Finally watched the video. I like it, it's better than what Bayer did with the American Idiot era videos. It seems really random though. They're in this bedroom, there's bulletholes, the couch is getting shot from the inside out by some random person trapped in it, awkward slow walking towards each other to kiss randomly, random goldfish, and then Green Day playing in a bedroom... I do enjoy having faces to Christian and Gloria though. Whoever casted them did an EXCELLENT job. Christian's kinda cute, I won't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inpoyeija Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Terribly sorry if anyone else has picked up on this (I really cbf to read through so many posts), but with regard to poeple wondering why they've got Gloria and Christian making otu after the gun shots..I read/heard somewhere in an interbveiw that Billie was talking about influences for the album.. and he mentioned something along the lines of there being a riot or fire or something, and a coiuple kissing in the midst of it all..Hence the video?edit:quotage from Q magazine " Billie Joe Armstrong: it's a record about chaos and fire in the streets and revolt and people marching down the street with torches while you're making out with your girlfriend, I guess."when the band was asked what 21st Century Breakdown was about.yeah, but i thought the album cover gave me a better visual of that than the video did lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 That's a good one!I thought about something different (when he tries to watch a programm, the bullets prevent him from it, as if he isn't allowed to just forget about his problems but gotta deal with it, but that doesn't really make any sense with the rest of the video.), but your ... thing. Analyzation? seems way betterThanks! Yeah, take a close look at where Christian aims the remote control at the TV...he hits the button and the tube's glass is shattered by a bullet. Then he turns the remote towards Gloria and fires a second shot. At that point the whole wall, the couch, etc. starts getting blown away -- but when the camera cuts back to Christian, he's cowering from gunfire that's now coming from everywhere. It's almost as if he set a chain of destruction in motion that he can't control now, and is consuming him. Wow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farah Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Finally watched the video. I like it, it's better than what Bayer did with the American Idiot era videos. It seems really random though. They're in this bedroom, there's bulletholes, the couch is getting shot from the inside out by some random person trapped in it, awkward slow walking towards each other to kiss randomly, random goldfish, and then Green Day playing in a bedroom... I do enjoy having faces to Christian and Gloria though. Whoever casted them did an EXCELLENT job. Christian's kinda cute, I won't lie.loland yeah i agree with the christian thing.! muahahgloria's pretty too. and kinda how i imagined her.. maybe because she looks a bit like the one on the 21CB booklet on the last page?xP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I see a slight resemblence between Gloria and Adrienne? Maybe it's just me.I had saw that too, at some point (when she starts walking to Christian). For the rest, not really.(I'm sure I've seen her before, though, but I can't think where.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxboron Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 if noone have seen it:the actors in the video are the same persons that posed in the art <.<EDIT.they wear the same clothes as well... and is on the same height as well to..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Liberty Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I thought it was really good, but ended up worrying about the goldfish through most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miqui_Dee Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 if noone have seen it:the actors in the video are the same persons that posed in the art <.<EDIT.they wear the same clothes as well... and is on the same height as well to.....Ooooooh. That makes a ton of sense as to why I went "My god, whoever they got to be Christian and Gloria look JUST LIKE THEM!" Yeah, I'm dumb.And did no one see at the end where the goldfish was perfectly fine and living in a jar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy. Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Gloria was pretty, but she looked too innocent. I cant really imagine her shooting up heroin or even like smoking a cigarette.this. finally found someone who thought the same as me!http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/gre...ay/21guns99.pngThey have matching molesI couldn't stop laughing when I first saw it! and the actors don't look that good in HD. oh the deception :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Thanks! Yeah, take a close look at where Christian aims the remote control at the TV...he hits the button and the tube's glass is shattered by a bullet. Then he turns the remote towards Gloria and fires a second shot. At that point the whole wall, the couch, etc. starts getting blown away -- but when the camera cuts back to Christian, he's cowering from gunfire that's now coming from everywhere. It's almost as if he set a chain of destruction in motion that he can't control now, and is consuming him. Wow....You're good! I just thought of some meaning for fishy and its bowl.Its bowl gets shot, and the water gulps out in some sort of waterfall, but fishy ends up in a jar and survives.Maybe that's something like you're life is sliding away under your feet, it's not your fault but you have absolutely no control over it, if something like that happens don't give up hope because maybe you'll end up alright anyway.I haven't figured out the telephone thing either, though. The only thing that came to mind when it dropped into the aquarium was "poor fishy, it'll get elektrocuted".if noone have seen it:the actors in the video are the same persons that posed in the art <.<EDIT.they wear the same clothes as well... and is on the same height as well to.....Errm, no offense, but that was pretty obvious. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxboron Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Ooooooh. That makes a ton of sense as to why I went "My god, whoever they got to be Christian and Gloria look JUST LIKE THEM!" Yeah, I'm dumb.And did no one see at the end where the goldfish was perfectly fine and living in a jar?ey sorry XD i dont usualy read 13 pages of text before i answear Errm, no offense, but that was pretty obvious. xDi tok me 2 views ta the video to make me figure it out <.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 i tok me 2 views ta the video to make me figure it out <.<Haha xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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