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Before The Lobotomy


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I really love how the song is arranged. I think it's nice to have a very dreamy, surreal intro and outro, and have the middle be very harsh, fast-paced, and like "time to wake up!"

I think this song might be my favorite lyrically. They just work together so well. The line "We are normal and self-controlled" has always made me curious though, I don't really get it in the context of the song.

The way I think about that line, it has to have the one before it included.

Christian's lesson's what he's been told - "We are normal and self-controlled."

In other words, like some parents say, "Now, Johnny, we don't bite the other children on the playground." It's like the authority figures in Christian's life are telling him that "we" (good people) are normal and self-controlled. Obviously, he needs to be told that often, because he's NOT normal and self-controlled.

Anyway, that's what it means to me.

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The way I think about that line, it has to have the one before it included.

Christian's lesson's what he's been told - "We are normal and self-controlled."

In other words, like some parents say, "Now, Johnny, we don't bite the other children on the playground." It's like the authority figures in Christian's life are telling him that "we" (good people) are normal and self-controlled. Obviously, he needs to be told that often, because he's NOT normal and self-controlled.

Anyway, that's what it means to me.

Ah, that does make much more sense, :lol:

Thanks J'net!

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Well... I don't really know what to think about this song. Some days I like it, and I've some lyrics in my mind. But some other days, I don't like it that much. I don't know, it's like it's missing something. Anyway, I like the lyrics.

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"Life before the lobotoMY! dun dun dun dun dun dun dun"

the only part I like lol

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Love this song. I get the feeling the 'whiskey shots and cheap cigarettes' bit will be great live, everyone singing it.

Oh without a doubt.

This song is becoming close to my favorite song (haven't decided that it is yet, though). It starts off a bit slow, but it picks up. In the end, when it's slow, it just sounds big and epic. Although a much shorter song, it reminds me of Jesus of Suburbia in that there are sort of distinct parts that lead to something that make the whole song worthwhile.

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The way I think about that line, it has to have the one before it included.

Christian's lesson's what he's been told - "We are normal and self-controlled."

In other words, like some parents say, "Now, Johnny, we don't bite the other children on the playground." It's like the authority figures in Christian's life are telling him that "we" (good people) are normal and self-controlled. Obviously, he needs to be told that often, because he's NOT normal and self-controlled.

Anyway, that's what it means to me.

Spot on. Also see Angeline's GDA editorial which goes a little deeper into this:

And Christian's lesson's what he's been sold, not what he feels. 'We are normal and self-controlled' - which makes you not-normal, and that's a bad thing, Christian. You see lies everywhere, a world with a great big 'WRONG' written all over it, and it fucks you up so much that you wanna just nuke everything because you don't see any hope of ever getting thru to anyone. . . . So smile, Christian, and do whatever it takes to make that smile happen - take the medicine, have a drink, forget about wanting to know a goddamn thing, carve your life for our acceptance, and then you get to stay with us instead of being alone. . . . You get to live life on our terms, for as long as you can take it before you bust out of the chains and go on the rampage again. . . .

All I can add is to point out these verses:

Dying

Everyone's reminded

Hearts are washed in misery

Drenched in gasoline

Laughter

There is no more laughter

Songs of yesterday

Now live in the underground

Backward-facing Christian's memories of yesterday, of the good times, the times he felt whole, fulfilled, and complete, if there ever were any, are long dead, gone, and buried. They are "drenched in gasoline" now, though, waiting for some spark to come along and ignite them into Christian's Inferno -- the blazing apocalyptical revolution he called for in Know Yor Enemy. This would fit with his apparent philosophy that the world is now so fucked up that the only solution is to torch it entirely, clear the debris, and start all over again with a clean slate. Nice guy, huh?

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I like how this one kicks in. I like how they all kick in!!

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I like how this one kicks in. I like how they all kick in!!

Same. I just love the way this song erupts into something so genius, I can't really explain it.

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These are my favorite parts too!

"Hearts are washed in misery

Drenched in gasoline" and "Songs of yesterday

Now live in the underground"

This wasn't one of my first favorites, now I can't listen to it without getting chills :)

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I've started liking this song, it has a nice melody and some of the lyrics are pretty snazzy.

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love this song

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Well... I don't really know what to think about this song. Some days I like it, and I've some lyrics in my mind. But some other days, I don't like it that much. I don't know, it's like it's missing something. Anyway, I like the lyrics.

:o......:cry:

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Spot on. Also see Angeline's GDA editorial which goes a little deeper into this:

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Backward-facing Christian's memories of yesterday, of the good times, the times he felt whole, fulfilled, and complete, if there ever were any, are long dead, gone, and buried. They are "drenched in gasoline" now, though, waiting for some spark to come along and ignite them into Christian's Inferno -- the blazing apocalyptical revolution he called for in Know Yor Enemy. This would fit with his apparent philosophy that the world is now so fucked up that the only solution is to torch it entirely, clear the debris, and start all over again with a clean slate. Nice guy, huh?

Yes, Angeline has a knack for putting my thoughts into words for me. Quite eloquent words!

Somehow, I don't see Christian as NOT a nice guy, which may seem pretty weird. But I think there are so many layers to his personality, and I can identify with all or most of them on some level. So I quite like him :).

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I looove the last part of this song it so gd and epic soundin

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Not one of my favourites on the album, but that doesn't mean it's not epic. I really like the verses after the slow beginning, especially the way Billie sings "whisky shots and cheap cigarettes". :D

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I LOVE this song sooo much, it is another one of my favorites, I love the intro, middle, and outro. I can feel Billie's soul pour out in every song, and especially in this one. I just love it. :D

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The intro kind of annoys me a bit in this song, but I love the chorus :D

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i love this song. it's one of the best on the album.

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i kinda hate the first part... until the line "well it's enough to make you sick". it gets a LOT better there.

oh and i lovee how he goes back to "dreaamin..." the second time! epic! it's worth all the wait (thru the first part :P)

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Upon first listen it felt like a good track to go inbetween Gloria and Christian's Inferno.

Now it actually means a hell of a lot to me, especially the lyrics.

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Well... I don't really know what to think about this song. Some days I like it, and I've some lyrics in my mind. But some other days, I don't like it that much. I don't know, it's like it's missing something. Anyway, I like the lyrics.

If anything it has too much in it. It's too long. I love the middle part. I hate the beginning and end though. They suck IMO.

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a bit slow at first but really picks up. even people at my school that hate GD (pretty much everone except for two people a grade younger than me) like it which would only be two or three people but still its that good!

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It always makes me want to cry. Saying I'm only dreaming, I was only dreaming. It sometimes sucks when you listened to it and you start dreaming and some of your dreams have failed :cry: Ok I need to shut up :down:

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I like this song.

I really thing this is a very personal song for Billie, I can tell.

the structure is interesting as well.

thumbsup definitely.

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I thought it kind of sucked the first time I listened to it but I have come to like it quite a lot more, I listened to it three times today.

I like this song.

I really thing this is a very personal song for Billie, I can tell.

Though Billie didn't get a lobotomy :P

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