Foxboron Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 Can someone please define the word "Computerized"?they get a effect from the computer.like: the backwards words on East jesus nowhere
gdpunkdude Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 with all the advancements in computer technology, my guess would be that a good majority of all the artists out there computerize the vocals.
clusterbomb Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 he doesn't do falsetto live because the music is overpowering. in the studio they can turn up the falsetto. - FACTas for the rest of the vocals, there is no way they're fake.he double tracks (records the vocals twice over) his lead vocal parts most of the time so they sound more powerful.and a lot of stuff just sounds better for recordings like effects on the vocals. And then live they do it whichever way sounds best.i know a lot about recording vocals, i've been in shit loads of different recording studios and i've recorded a million songs in studios. i kinda know how its all done
**nobodylikesyou** Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 what I was gonna say Leigh just said.Bands/singers dont do it live most of because it will be overpowered by the rest of the music.
Peter. Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 they get a effect from the computer.like: the backwards words on East jesus nowhereWell, that's not "Computerize his voice" that's recording music. every single damn artist uses effects.And apart from that i agree with everything Leigh said.
frankiessister Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 he doesn't do falsetto live because the music is overpowering. in the studio they can turn up the falsetto. - FACTas for the rest of the vocals, there is no way they're fake.he double tracks (records the vocals twice over) his lead vocal parts most of the time so they sound more powerful.and a lot of stuff just sounds better for recordings like effects on the vocals. And then live they do it whichever way sounds best.i know a lot about recording vocals, i've been in shit loads of different recording studios and i've recorded a million songs in studios. i kinda know how its all done Finally someone who knows what he's talking about!
petrina_678 Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 they arnt "fake" or done by a computer, he had to actually sing them. Then whatever effects were added, its still him . Plus his voice is alot more un-edited than alot of acts out there which edit the hell out of the vocals. i thought it was not over done, just perfect.
Iwannajumpout Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, there's autotune on 21 Guns. Especially on the "one guns". Autotune works by finding the main tone and then raising it up or down to the perfect pitch. Unfortunately, it also strips out the natural imperfect overtones that make up the voice. You get a perfect note, but sacrifice the authenticity, the imperfect character that differentiates a human voice from a computer playing single sine wave tones. In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with using effects or autotune, if they're done tastefully and with respect to the song. I will say, one of the things 21CBD has going for it is that it's not all compressed to hell and back. Gated giant-ass reverbed snares were the thing in the 80's. Autotune is for the 2000's.There's really no such thing as natural vocals unless you're standing right in front of a vocalist and hearing the direct sound from their mouth. As soon as you throw a mic into the mix, that mic, that cabling, that preamp, that tape machine, that tape, or that interface, that DAW, that EQ, that compressor is changing the vocal.
brooksy Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 Yeh i'm sure they use computers too but everyones doing it and we all know how great the boys soung live, so i don't mind they just want to give us the best.
Kreeis69 Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 If you really think that the vocals on 21CB are "computerized" to the point where it's not really Billie himself hitting those notes so perfectly, I think you may have a problem...Perhaps you should listen to other Green Day albums or see them live? The "computerization" is fine with me, as I for one know that Billie is capable of hitting those notes. This is such a weird topic I had to reply...
Comrade Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 Yeah they've altered the vocals to make them pitch perfect and add effects. I prefer that. High production quality owns over a more rough live sound on an album release any day. Makes it more professional and more real. If the vocals to say... Murder City sounded like the live videos there are on the record, I would feel seriously short changed. As good as Billies voice is live, it needs refinement for the album releases. Thats one of the reasons I think they should re-record everything up to and including Dookie. Get the best studio quality possible with effects. Then the songs would be that much better. Clinical.they may be 40 perent computiriziedtbh, I'd say more about 15%. It's just on the harder notes. Many bands perform songs different live than on record because it's easier, causes less ware on their vocal chords and there's less chance of slipping up. Nothing wrong with that. Even Christian's Inferno just has added effects to the vocals, not complete manipulation. People are looking too much into this. Just enjoy the bloody music.
blink41 Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 Yes they used "effects", but I'd rather say really high quality gear, remember that it's been mixed by chris lord-alge (who is one of the most famous sound engineers around), and recorded in ocean way studios. They have got really high quality gear, and to my mind, that's why this record is so close to perfection. They used some distortion, certainly autotune, but in a way that makes it sounding great without ruining the sound (there are plenty of really bad mixes outta there).A thing that really does matter is billie joe's voice. Maybe there is autotune, but there's also time. He has made so many shows that is voice is trained to do anything, and to my mind, what you can hear is more billie's experience than computerized vocals.That's only my opinion though, hope it will help !
siryn Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 remember in one live video where he was trying to do a falsetto part he pushed his ear monitor thing way into his ear to make sure he could hear himself.which video was this? i love geeky stuff like that..and idk what everyone's talking about that billie joe doesn't do falsetto "live" bc all the vids i've seen of him doing before the lobotomy and 21 guns, he sings it just like on the album. to be honest, i was really excited to hear bj do falsetto on 21cbd. i love his voice and it's awesome to see him push his vocals.as for the "computerized" thing.. as others have said, i believe it is billie joe's "real" voice with some enhancements to clean up the sound. ALL artists do it. i even saw an interview with sarah mclaughlin where she said she uses it on her cd's. it's not a big deal.. we all know that green day sound awesome live!
Jayni Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 Can I ask a silly question that has something to do with vocals, but nothing to do with falsetto or computerization?Modern World? It doesn't sound like Billie Joe. His voice is higher than that isn't it? So are Mike's and Tre's , right? And Tre doesn't sing anything serious anyway. Am I going crazy? Am I just that uninformed? I could swear it wasn't BJ. It's kind of eating away at my soul, so...HELP!!!!!??????!!!!!!
SlappyDJ1 Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 Can I ask a silly question that has something to do with vocals, but nothing to do with falsetto or computerization?Modern World? It doesn't sound like Billie Joe. His voice is higher than that isn't it? So are Mike's and Tre's , right? And Tre doesn't sing anything serious anyway. Am I going crazy? Am I just that uninformed? I could swear it wasn't BJ. It's kind of eating away at my soul, so...HELP!!!!!??????!!!!!!it was mike during modern world.
iHasan Posted June 9, 2009 Author Posted June 9, 2009 I know Billie actually sings on the album but my question was did they change the pitch on songs like BOBD,21 Guns,Little Girl,Before The Lobotomy using computer?You guys are pretty much getting it wrong
Greenday_Aussie Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 If anyone does the headphones trick with CD players/iPods (Where is cuts out the leading track and leaves only the guitar and backing vocals) in I think Static Age or See the Light, I think it could prove that his voice has been computerized in areas, he sings one part so high..it doesnt seem possible its coming naturally from Billie.
Guest Brian Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 Listen kids, if you don't know what you're talking about then don't talk about it. This thread is full of so much bad information it's hilarious!
Viva La Junkpile Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 I'm certain they were all natural. "Computerized" is something very stupid to say. He used a FILTER once in a while during a song or two (not the entire song), but not COMPUTERIZED it.
God XIV Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 'cuz live, billie can't do falsetto [if i'm right]I Heard He Doesn't do it live cos hes not sure that he can hit the notei Also Agree With The Above Post
localinsomniac Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 Are you asking if the vocals are pitch-corrected? Some probably are. Billie's got a very good voice, but he isn't perfect. There are effects on the vocals in some songs like Christian's Inferno if that's what you mean.
beth hardy Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 bottom line..Billie can sing. it's as simple as that.
frankiessister Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 Lol @ this whole thread. So many people thinking one way or another and pretending to know things that they actually have no idea about.Well, here's a suggestion: if we ever again get the chance to ask the band some questions, why not ask Billie himself about his vocals?I'm pretty sure he's the one who knows best...Anyways, this thread is soooo pointless.
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