Christian vs. Jesus of Suburbia/St. Jimmy

[wwnflat_punk]

I have to say Christian because he is presented as a very angry character in the album, but in the end it seems like he and Gloria built a relationship which gave him more strength and helped him "See the Light"

[Boston]

Team Christian!

I have to say Christian because he is presented as a very angry character in the album, but in the end it seems like he and Gloria built a relationship which gave him more strength and helped him "See the Light"

[Agija]

I like Jesus Of Suburbia better.

[Hermione]

This is madness. Christian clearly wins on every level. He is the sexiest

[GreenDayaremyGods]

Personally I haven't warmed up completley to Christian yet but I will. SO for now I still am devoted to St. Jimmy and Jesus of Suburbia

[BadgerLALA]

I'm on JOS and St.Jimmy's side.

[josh_oliday]

Jesus and Jimmy are very different characters to me. I don't know why they are classified as one...And I'm going to go with JOS. You wanna talk about whining? Wahh, I'm Christian. "The girl I worshipped and loved is really a drug addict so I'm going to OD on a shit ton of medicine and booze." Yea, yea. At least JOS had an excuse. I mean the kid ran away from home and had a mental breakdown and them meets his savior who is a total badass (real or not is debatable). The only reason he becomes whiny is because Whatsername is a bitch and couldn't deal with his relationship with Jimmy any more. But then, he grows some testicles and KILLS Jimmy. Yea, I said it. He did it. He's a total badass. Christian just wants to burn everything down. JOS actually did.

[Haydée]

Christian & Gloria > JOS/St.J & Whatsername

This is madness. Christian clearly wins on every level. He is the sexiest

[badwolf]

JOS/SJ

[Dookie93]

Christian all the way, JOS and Jimmy are pansy's and cry a lot so I think Christian would win! But tbh I'm Gloria's whore!

[iLozza!]

Christian; JoS is getting a bit old for me now, a new character is cool until I get bored of him and fall back in love with Jimmy.

[Farah]

i don't know christian well yet XD

im voting for JOS!:D lool

[Green Day Luigi]

St. Jimmy.

[MusicalDeviant]

Christian doesn't sound like much fun. A downer.

St. Jimmy/Jesus of Suburbia may also be self destructive, but at least he has some fun with it!

[greendaytone]

Its too early for me to say, but i love St. Jimmy!

[14razorbacks]

They're not really comparable; A.I tells a structured story, whereas 21Cb is more of a notion of an adventure. Christian, therefore, is far less of a deep 'real' character than the J.O.S - for the sole reason that he's not meant to be like that, anyway.

[Juju]

JoS/St. Jimmy > Christian.

Gloria gets more attention on 21CB than Christian, and like 14razorbacks said, it's not really a "story" like AI was.

[rinu]

i like Christian but sorry fuck no

GO JIMMY!

[Chad is Rad]

Can't really say yet. I need to get more in touch with Christian's character before I can decide.

[rinu]

^oh yes we dont even know Christian maybe i change my mind later but its hard

[gdpunk2]

Hmmm, well Christians the new kid on the block and I dont think that Jimmy is gonna take any shit from him wether he burns down the town or not. And if he does, Jimmy will kick is ass. He sounds tougher as well.

[St. Jimmy of New York]

St. Jimmy and that's my nameeeeeee.

[Peel Slowly And See]

Jesus and Jimmy are very different characters to me. I don't know why they are classified as one...And I'm going to go with JOS. You wanna talk about whining? Wahh, I'm Christian. "The girl I worshipped and loved is really a drug addict so I'm going to OD on a shit ton of medicine and booze." Yea, yea. At least JOS had an excuse. I mean the kid ran away from home and had a mental breakdown and them meets his savior who is a total badass (real or not is debatable). The only reason he becomes whiny is because Whatsername is a bitch and couldn't deal with his relationship with Jimmy any more. But then, he grows some testicles and KILLS Jimmy. Yea, I said it. He did it. He's a total badass. Christian just wants to burn everything down. JOS actually did.

Terrible post.

Christian is an angry motherfucker who's too stupid to stabalize. He's destructive, but he finally sees a reason to stay positive. He remains a dumbass, however.

Jimmy is a whiny motherfucker who is completely responsible for everything that has happened in his life. He owns up to it in the end, but the man's still a bitch.

Whatsername is a rebel who has no idea what she's doing. She's a bitch, but she knows what she wants.

Gloria remains the only even remotely likable one of the four.

[josh_oliday]

Terrible post.

Christian is an angry motherfucker who's too stupid to stabalize. He's destructive, but he finally sees a reason to stay positive. He remains a dumbass, however.

Jimmy is a whiny motherfucker who is completely responsible for everything that has happened in his life. He owns up to it in the end, but the man's still a bitch.

Whatsername is a rebel who has no idea what she's doing. She's a bitch, but she knows what she wants.

Gloria remains the only even remotely likable one of the four.

Well I don't think that it's fair for you to call my opinion a terrible post.

Next, I'm an English major by choice lol so I can dissect characters til I'm blue in the face. I was just giving my opinion on what was I thought and it was a bit hasty on my part. You want in depth? All you have to do is ask. The short of it is though, JoS realizes what is wrong in his life and his time. He tries to correct it at first, but can't until his savior comes along: Jimmy. Now, personally, I believe Jimmy is a figment of his mind (as referenced by the even cleverer [yes I made that up] Whatsername in Letterbomb). So subconsciously, JoS knows what he has to do in his life to correct it, but then, Whatsername comes into the picture and fucks him all up in the head again (hence why I referenced her as a bitch in my last post). So now JoS is torn between his love and his savior and he ends up self-destructing to a point that Whatsername leaves and he ends up killing Jimmy. He's left all alone, grows into a real man, and even when he's reminded of Whatsername, he doesn't see the girl, only the experiences that it brought him.

Christian on the other hand I will agree is a self-destructive ass who doesn't know what time he lives in anymore. Only at the end of the album does he even begin to figure it out. He has no real excuse for being the way he does other that taking the "I'm oppressed" psyche to a whole new extreme that gets almost ridiculous.

And as for you're precious Gloria, don't choose sides without considering her issues. First there is the hypocrisy of her drug problem (Little girl, little girl, you dirty liar. You're just a junkie preaching to the choir). Second, I view Before the Lobotomy coming from her, a diary if you will. Here is Christian who I like to think has been fancying her for quite a while and she shows some interest, but the line that says, "I'm not stoned, I'm just fucked up. I got so high, I can't stand up. I'm not cursed cause I've been blessed. I'm not in love cause I'm in a mess." This is Gloria admitting her problem to herself, but does she admit it to Christian. No, he doesn't find out til later, long after he's already written "Last Night on Earth" and "Last of the American Girls." At least Whatsername told it to JoS's face (okay not to his face, in a letter, but she told him.) Gloria gets bitch points just for that. Personally, I would prefer to hang out with Gloria myself because she seems like the most grounded esp. by the end of the album.

But in terms of who is a better character? And the fact that the thread is JoS/Christian, I went with JoS.

[Bastard of 1967]

CHristian or Jimmy?! You decide!

St. Jimmy talks a good game but chickened out when the rubber hit the road: "Jimmy Died today/He blew his brains out into the bay". Christian's the bastard who comes along after him to finish the job!