Haydée Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 The site's not working for me And I don't have the songs
Greenday_Aussie Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Sounds to me like you are in denial. There is nothing punk (musically) about "Last Night on Earth" or "21 Guns". Face it, the band tried tackling a new genre - which is "Classic Rock/Pop". Call it Power Pop, call it whatever. I'm not saying the band is no longer Punk, but the last two albums (for the most part) - are completely different Genres then say Dookie or Insomniac.Some songs are pretty punk, like Horseshoes. Its not always about the music either, its the message/lyrics. Like I said though, most of Breakdown is bordering power pop.How can you make Classic rock? Its got the name for one reason, its old and considered "classic" (Zep, Guns and Roses ect.)
Juan Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 The site's not working for me And I don't have the songs Beth didn't hook ya up?
deathtofalsesushi Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 - Christians Inferno (The Network right here)- Horseshoes And Handgrenades (Foxboro Hot Tubs)Oh totally, I hear those influences.
Kate Austen Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Some songs are pretty punk, like Horseshoes. Its not always about the music either, its the message/lyrics. Like I said though, most of Breakdown is bordering power pop.How can you make Classic rock? Its got the name for one reason, its old and considered "classic" (Zep, Guns and Roses ect.)You can make "classic/rock" by making a 70min Rock Opera.This album (and AI for that matter) were very much influenced by 60's/70's era Rock Concept albums. Which we also call "Classic Rock". Just read interviews with the band. I still think it's silly for you to hold on to the band as punk group (or rather, that you are so bothered that they could be anything besides that). Who cares if they aren't a full on punk group right now?Doesn't mean they can't go back and make a Punk album later on. BTW, I'm strictly speaking on musical terms. Billie has stated numerous times he is "Punk" - and I won't argue with that. I just don't get why you care that they are making different genres of music.Lastly, no fair cherry picking. The majority of the album is not very punk at all (musically).
Greenday_Aussie Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Well, thats just not my opinion. I thought alot of AI was punk too, JOS, Holiday (how can your argue with AI not being punk? Musically, yes, lyrically, hell yes. Again, Ive heard poppy songs from the Ramones) and St.Jimmy. Im lost then, what defines punk? Bad singing ala Rancid (who I like) Sex Pistols?
Juan Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Punk is an attitude, it isn't defined. Sub genres of punk can be more easily delineated because they same some similar characteristics
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 The site's not working for me And I don't have the songs Do you want them?
Kate Austen Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Punk is an attitude, it isn't defined. Sub genres of punk can be more easily delineated because they same some similar characteristicsThis. We are talking about "musical genres", not movements/attitudes. BTW, I will agree that AI was more Pop/Punk sounding then 21st Century. But again, you are a cherry picking. Just face the fact they aren't making the same music they used to.
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 I've only got 5 days to waitC'mon people, it's not that difficult.why its here? they want us to hear it. by the time you guys get around to listening to it, we will all be done being excited and talking about it. It would be ashame to miss out on that part.
Juan Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 This. We are talking about "musical genres", not movements/attitudes. BTW, I will agree that AI was more Pop/Punk sounding then 21st Century. But again, you are a cherry picking. Just face the fact they aren't making the same music they used to. And face the fact that it's still amazingly goodwhy its here? they want us to hear it. by the time you guys get around to listening to it, we will all be done being excited and talking about it. It would be ashame to miss out on that part. oh yes, wise words
Kate Austen Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 And face the fact that it's still amazingly goodYes yes. Look, when it comes down to it - genres are pointless. What it really comes down to, is do you fucking enjoy it? If you do, shup and enjoy it.
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Yes yes. Look, when it comes down to it - genres are pointless. What it comes down to, do you fucking enjoy it? If you do, shup and enjoy it. love that word! gonna steal it and use it!!!! and I agree, I like so many different genres of music it isnt even funny. If I like it, I like it. The end.Please (:kkkall better.
Juan Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Yes yes. Look, when it comes down to it - genres are pointless. What it really comes down to, is do you fucking enjoy it? If you do, shup and enjoy it. I'ma QTF
chewychorizo Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 why its here? they want us to hear it. by the time you guys get around to listening to it, we will all be done being excited and talking about it. It would be ashame to miss out on that part. It would give me a strange feeling of satisfaction if i waited.
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 It would give me a strange feeling of satisfaction if i waited.whatever works for you.
pooldude256 Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 AI is not that good... Basketcase is by far a bigger hoit for example.American Eulogy burns down AI (song) and then wipes the ass with the little remaining pieces xDI think the song (AI) is really good. But I mean...if you compare it to some of the songs on 21CB...holy hell it seems so boring. Yes, American Eulogy is an awesome song. East Jesus Nowhere is so good it almost makes AI non-existent.I'm still a bit hesitant to compare 21CB and AI (albums) but at this point I would have to give the edge to 21CB. I do think my expectations have been surpassed, and I was expecting something great.Must have listened to the entire album 10 times through so far. Gonna be a shame when I have to erase all the songs and play counts on Friday when I get the album from iTunes. Oh well..it will get plenty of listens regardless.
Greenday_Aussie Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Sadly, I had the same feeling. Its because of the poppiness of Breakdown, the AI songs now seem so minor (guitarist/muso talk here) and dull.
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 I think the song (AI) is really good. But I mean...if you compare it to some of the songs on 21CB...holy hell it seems so boring. Yes, American Eulogy is an awesome song. East Jesus Nowhere is so good it almost makes AI non-existent.I'm still a bit hesitant to compare 21CB and AI (albums) but at this point I would have to give the edge to 21CB. I do think my expectations have been surpassed, and I was expecting something great.Must have listened to the entire album 10 times through so far. Gonna be a shame when I have to erase all the songs and play counts on Friday when I get the album from iTunes. Oh well..it will get plenty of listens regardless.that song is so good I should marry it.
Juan Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 that song is so good I should marry it. you'd need to convert into a Mormon
Greenday_Aussie Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 EJN wasnt as good as I thought, the intro is epic...then it gets to Foxboro (I still cant find what song it is with the same melody....)Damn American Girls is catchy!
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 ^YES it was dammit, listen again. you'd need to convert into a Mormonshit, am I mormon?
Greenday_Aussie Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Anyone figured out what Green Day song is playing in the intro of EJN yet?
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