chatnoir Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 oh, I'm not sure if non-musicians people noticed, but Before the Lobotomy has a different time signature than all of the other green day songs.its the first green day song with a different time signature.u know when on songs you can count to 4 and repeat? like 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4 ? thats a 4/4 time signature. before the lobotomy keeps changing from 4/4 to 7/8. 7/8 means you count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and repeat. if finishes the phrase 1 count earlier.if you have the recordings i made, the 7/8 time sig can be heard at 1:22. and everytime that part kicks in. it sounds a bit broken, so to speak.this time signature can be found on a few rare songs in rock.dream theater uses loads of weird and different time signatures, i know pink floyd has a song with this same time sig. just not sure of the name now.Interesting, I can hear that it sounds broken, but I couldn't have said why.
Kaddi. Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 I just listened to 21 Guns... it's like... I can't even find the right words, neither in German nor in English.First of all, it made me cry, because it's so beautiful. The melody is awesome and I love Billie's voice in it, especially the "guns" is amazing.It might be a little to early to say something about this, but I think Billie never sang better than on this new album... his singing his just awesome, better than ever before.
annie Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Concerning 21st Century Breakdown I don't have a lot to say. I just liked the version which was released without Green Day's permission more. The lyrics were better. And also the melody in some parts.I never heard the leaked version, since this one is out already now can someone send me a link to download it?
Blond-O-Sonic Shimmer Trap Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Minor point but I like the way he sings the line"last one born, the first one to run" better in the demo than the new version. Love the Springsteen reference though.
Marlena Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 I just listened to 21 Guns... it's like... I can't even find the right words, neither in German nor in English.First of all, it made me cry, because it's so beautiful. The melody is awesome and I love Billie's voice in it, especially the "guns" is amazing. yeah, it's difficult to describe what you feel when you listen to it...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Minor point but I like the way he sings the line"last one born, the first one to run" better in the demo than the new version. Love the Springsteen reference though.Jack Bauer! ♥
Marlena Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 I never heard the leaked version, since this one is out already now can someone send me a link to download it?I don't know if it's anywhere available to download. I have it.
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 I just listened to 21 Guns... it's like... I can't even find the right words, neither in German nor in English.First of all, it made me cry, because it's so beautiful. The melody is awesome and I love Billie's voice in it, especially the "guns" is amazing.it made me cry too!
*withoutadoubt* Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 oh, I'm not sure if non-musicians people noticed, but Before the Lobotomy has a different time signature than all of the other green day songs.its the first green day song with a different time signature.u know when on songs you can count to 4 and repeat? like 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4 ? thats a 4/4 time signature. before the lobotomy keeps changing from 4/4 to 7/8. 7/8 means you count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and repeat. if finishes the phrase 1 count earlier.if you have the recordings i made, the 7/8 time sig can be heard at 1:22. and everytime that part kicks in. it sounds a bit broken, so to speak.this time signature can be found on a few rare songs in rock.dream theater uses loads of weird and different time signatures, i know pink floyd has a song with this same time sig. just not sure of the name now.Thanks for explaining that - very interesting. I love how they've played around with arrangements and stuff like that. A whole different twist to things. This whole thing so far is so unexpected and wonderful. Thanks to the guys for giving us so much of themselves once again.
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 I don't know if it's anywhere available to download. I have it.I have a link somewhere.
alexandrez Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 During the Irish Jig part (We are the class of 13!) - they did vocal layering. Vocals sound much stronger. On other parts of the song, there is also layering, and just overall much better sound then the demo. In the beginning of the song, Billie hits a note different then the demo. Forgot which lyric it was. They also gave a boost in the guitar sound, especially the guitar solo at the end of the song, sounds powerful as hell. Urm, right before they bust into the Irish Jig bit, they have the sound effect of a guitar being plugged into an Amp (sort of like Letterbomb, intro). The end of the Irish part where the song breaks into the solo is also different, it lasts a bit longer before fading out. They changed the lyrics to "America SCREAM" whereas in the demo it was "Bleed". I'm sure there were other changes (even if subtle). Overall, the song sounds MUCH more powerful and heavy.yea. there were quite a few changes indeed.the guitar solo at the end seams like they used a whammy pedal, set on octave.meaning that whatever the guitar played was also played on a octave higher. like it has the original octave, and exact copy of the signal one octave higher.
annie Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 I have a link somewhere.If you could post it or PM it to me that would be great
chatnoir Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 And the same thing with Before The Lobotomy.There is some Barbra Streisand song, "feelings, nothing more than feelings" or something like that. lol *hides*
Marlena Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 There is some Barbra Streisand song, "feelings, nothing more than feelings" or something like that. lol *hides*omg no
BiLLie170272 Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 thanks much !! im already excited to hear the whole album !! ..i LOVE GREEN DAY !! weee ..!! it rocks:) laaabb BILLIE JOE ARMSTRONG great song writer thanks again 21 guns .. damn ..perfect song for me ..i love the melody, words, EVERYTHINGlove billie's voice:)
GreenDayGummyBear Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 i only slept an like an hour last night cause i was trying to commit all the songs to memory... mind hasn't been able to comprhend that this IS green day... it is diffinently Billie's voice (though it sounds a little off) and Mike's, and it is diffenitly some of those familiar chords sneaking through, i listen to dookie, then these songs, and it sounds so different... it is reallly amazing.
Fuzz Posted May 5, 2009 Author Posted May 5, 2009 it made me cry too!You're all so emotional. I was laying in bed this morning listening to it and just had a huge smile on my face. I said "fuck yeah, this is great!", then thought "I can see why people would cry over it"We can all be pathetic together.
**nobodylikesyou** Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 If you could post it or PM it to me that would be great http://www.sendspace.com/file/3o3ijyHere it is as I dont see why it would matter to post it now !!
alexandrez Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 You're all so emotional. I was laying in bed this morning listening to it and just had a huge smile on my face. I said "fuck yeah, this is great!", then thought "I can see why people would cry over it"We can all be pathetic together. hahahai cried too.
Kaddi. Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 You're all so emotional. I was laying in bed this morning listening to it and just had a huge smile on my face. I said "fuck yeah, this is great!", then thought "I can see why people would cry over it"We can all be pathetic together. Yeah, I am really emotional, but I actually don't know why I cried. It just happened... I listened to the song in all its beauty and it just overwhelmed me. It's kinda cheesy isn't it?
Marlena Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 hahahai cried too.It IS sad. I'm still crying. It's great, yeah, but also very sad.And concerning Restless Heart Syndrome: There is a Beatles song that sounds like this song! I want to know which one! And it sounds a bit like metal in the end, doesn't it? well, maybe it's just me.
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