KKK Guy hanged on Green Day's video?

[chatnoir]

Of course not all black people felt that way, but they knew what the term meant whether they agreed with it or not. This is just a historical fact, I'm not making any stance or statement here and there is nothing for anyone to be upset about. Chill people.

Ask a black person what revolution means and they'll tell you it's when all the black people gang up around America and kill Whitey.

That is not a fact, it is an assumption, which you cannot back up and is unlikely on top of that. I also think, using the expression "to kill Whitey" wasn't your smartest move to describe what the answer of black people might be.

Hey fuck you too you ignorant ass! It not my fault you're never heard the term, good lord!! Open a book!!

You could have just said, you were sorry, if this was really about you being misunderstood.

[alexandrez]

Damn! My boyfriend's got great eyes!

he does. he found this!

Perhaps I'm crediting them with too much intelligence here, but maybe they're challenging people's view towards capital punishment and mob mentality ? Billie kinda mentioned the whole-city-burning-down-while-making-out-with-your-girlfirend scenario when he was describing the album. If it's not ok to murder someone totally innocent, why is it any better to turn the tables ? I'm sure far more people would be offended if that figure wasn't hooded or a member of a religious cult.

i think that IF green day knows the image was there, they want us to argue about it. make people think about it. and i guess it's one of those things that there isn't a correct answer too.

green day has gone all da vinci on us, hiding shit in pictures.

u made me pee on my pants.

I'd love it if Green Day had no idea they were there. That would be so funny.

i think this is the most probable and hilarious opinion around.

=p

[achtungkatie]

There seems to be a greater theme of revolution in this album than anything else. Ask a black person what revolution means and they'll tell you it's when all the black people gang up around America and kill Whitey. Not saying this is what Billie is driving at but the protester in the KYE cover art is black, and you've got a KKK member hanged, coincidence?

This record was long in the making, maybe he thought Barack would lose and there would be a large uprising. He gambled and lost so he had to change the direction of the record a bit before releasing it. I'm not saying this is fact, just a possibility.

All that being said, I don't agree hanging KKK members is ok. The KKK hanged many black people out of ignorance and intolerance. Doing to same to them just puts you at there level. Is depicting a picture of that scenario ok??? I guess there is something to be said for artistic freedom, I think it's ok.

I think saying that any black person would tell you revolution means killing Whitey is a huge generalization, as well as ridiculous and offensive. I do agree with there being an emphasis on powerful images in this album, and I have to say I think I like what they've been using—black protester, kissing young couple, hanged Klansman, to name just a few—but I think that has to do more with the fact that historically African-Americans have been among the most oppressed minorities in America. (I also I really like the Banksy-esque artwork style. Isn't Tre a huge fan of Banksy?) Also, I bet you anything the Armstrongs' trip down to New Orleans in the wake of Katrina, and the volunteering they did in the aftermath, had a huge impact on some of the writing of this album.

[sampy]

lol great easter egg !

[SlappyDJ1]

oh my god. why would they have subliminal messages like that?

[rootbeersoup]

oh my god. why would they have subliminal messages like that?

They want you to kill coneheads

[SlappyDJ1]

hold up, you photoshopped this. FAKE.

[Starbug]

What is bullshit about it? You guys are young but if you were to ask any 30+ year old African-American what "The Revolution" is, they will tell you it is when all the black people rise up and riot and take over. I'm not making it up. Now I'm not saying that is what Billie is talking about, just saying check out the KYE cover art and the hanging clansman and that could play in....don't be such a dick and scream BULLSHIT, I'm not lying about anything.

Okay, in this post you say 'ask any 30+ year old African-American' and in another you say not all of them feel that way. But you are implying you believe they do. That's horseshit and you should know that. That's a very, very broad generalization. I know that animosity between the races is still alive and well, but to say that they all feel that way is wrong and inaccurate. I live in the armpit of the South, and I've never run across anyone that feels that way, even here. Most of us, black or white, just want to get along. But making statements like that, lumping them all into one group, assuming that THEY ALLLLLL know about the Black Panthers and their 'revolution' makes it seem as if they're all against us, and some stupid kid will come in here and read that and believe it. And so the seed of animosity is planted somewhere else. Good job!

LOL yeah right!!! Then you guys need to learn some more black history. Just read a little about the Black Panthers and you'll see many references to "The Revolution". Google is your friend.

I'm glad that you, whitey, are such an authority on black history, and current issues facing black folks. Cause, ya know, all black people want to see us dead, and they're all members, or their family was members, of the Black Panthers.

[day1_9]

u made me pee on my pants.

im assuming thats a good thing...so your welcome

That is not a fact, it is an assumption, which you cannot back up and is unlikely on top of that. I also think, using the expression "to kill Whitey" wasn't your smartest move to describe what the answer of black people might be.

You could have just said, you were sorry, if this was really about you being misunderstood.

I think saying that any black person would tell you revolution means killing Whitey is a huge generalization, as well as ridiculous and offensive. I do agree with there being an emphasis on powerful images in this album, and I have to say I think I like what they've been using—black protester, kissing young couple, hanged Klansman, to name just a few—but I think that has to do more with the fact that historically African-Americans have been among the most oppressed minorities in America. (I also I really like the Banksy-esque artwork style. Isn't Tre a huge fan of Banksy?) Also, I bet you anything the Armstrongs' trip down to New Orleans in the wake of Katrina, and the volunteering they did in the aftermath, had a huge impact on some of the writing of this album.

Okay, in this post you say 'ask any 30+ year old African-American' and in another you say not all of them feel that way. But you are implying you believe they do. That's horseshit and you should know that. That's a very, very broad generalization. I know that animosity between the races is still alive and well, but to say that they all feel that way is wrong and inaccurate. I live in the armpit of the South, and I've never run across anyone that feels that way, even here. Most of us, black or white, just want to get along. But making statements like that, lumping them all into one group, assuming that THEY ALLLLLL know about the Black Panthers and their 'revolution' makes it seem as if they're all against us, and some stupid kid will come in here and read that and believe it. And so the seed of animosity is planted somewhere else. Good job!

I'm glad that you, whitey, are such an authority on black history, and current issues facing black folks. Cause, ya know, all black people want to see us dead, and they're all members, or their family was members, of the Black Panthers.

and yet im the "ignorant ass"

i agree with all of you

[alexandrez]

hold up, you photoshopped this. FAKE.

go do your research before you call something fake.

a good start would be going greenday.com and watching the promo video there.

[Moxy Crimefighter]

heh, how come I'm not at all surprised by this...

[valeria carci]

bwahaha subliminal messages people

[Rezurgam]

Think it was Green Day who requested to put the image in there or the artists doing it on their own?

[Kate Austen]

bwahaha subliminal messages people

You do know there were subliminal messages in the Holiday and Boulevard videos to make fans go out and buy Eye Liner right?

[Towers]

I'm not as much bothered about the dead KKK guy as for the subliminal message. Although this is a recurring subject in rock and roll.

[valeria carci]

You do know there were subliminal messages in the Holiday and Boulevard videos to make fans go out and buy Eye Liner right?

youre so right this guys are secretly controlling us

[Ila Reto]

wow. how...interesting? kind of creepy. i guess they're going all-out on this "anti-bad stuff" thing this time around.

subliminal messaging ftw- thats why i love watching Disease Is Punishment, i feel like my brain's getting probed every time

[Guest Billy]

as bad as any KKK member is, i don't think is a message Green Day wants to promote.

whist it make look really cool, it's not helping the image of this record.

this hanging isn't really apropos, but it's not my choice.

[Starbug]

wow. how...interesting? kind of creepy. i guess they're going all-out on this "anti-bad stuff" thing this time around.

subliminal messaging ftw- thats why i love watching Disease Is Punishment, i feel like my brain's getting probed every time

Brain probe-age is good.

I've never seen Disease is Punishment. I need to get a hold of it.

[Ila Reto]

^ you can actually watch it on youtube, just type in Disease is Punishment Part 1. and then parts 1-5 show up.

its fun, kind of odd at first, and you spot something new every time.

but if you love the network nearly as much as i do it's amazing to watch them live

[Hermione]

as bad as any KKK member is, i don't think is a message Green Day wants to promote.

whist it make look really cool, it's not helping the image of this record.

this hanging isn't really apropos, but it's not my choice.

I don't think they're promoting the idea of literally murdering KKK members. I'd say the KKK guy is a metaphor for racism - it's an anti-racism message.

[Starbug]

I don't think they're promoting the idea of literally murdering KKK members. I'd say the KKK guy is a metaphor for racism - it's an anti-racism message.

I agree with that. I don't think they'd ever condone murdering anyone.

[Tiffx]

All that being said, I don't agree hanging KKK members is ok. The KKK hanged many black people out of ignorance and intolerance. Doing to same to them just puts you at there level. Is depicting a picture of that scenario ok??? I guess there is something to be said for artistic freedom, I think it's ok.

I agree Although people are saying it's a metaphor and whatnot, that's fair enough. But personally I don't really cope well with things such as hanging/torture.

In legal studies in my final year of highschool we watched a documentary about the last man that faced the death penalty in Australia and he was hung. A couple of months later they discovered he was actually innocent. They didn't show the actual hanging but they showed an acted version of it. It played on my mind for weeks and really disturbed me.

[Guest Billy]

I don't think they're promoting the idea of literally murdering KKK members. I'd say the KKK guy is a metaphor for racism - it's an anti-racism message.

i'm sorry if i misspoke or you misunderstood about that; i know they're not condoning murdering, but someone can misinterpret this.

i know it's an anti-racism idea, but that's not the best way to do that.

it's a bit risque.

I agree with that. I don't think they'd ever condone murdering anyone.

i misspoke or you read it wrong.

it can be read differently, i know it meant racism though. someone else might not.

[Starbug]

i'm sorry if i misspoke or you misunderstood about that; i know they're not condoning murdering, but someone can misinterpret this.

i know it's an anti-racism idea, but that's not the best way to do that.

it's a bit risque.

i misspoke or you read it wrong.

it can be read differently, i know it meant racism though. someone else might not.

And that, I do believe, is precisely the point. Why come out swinging with things that have already been said or done? I've never seen something like that before. If you're gonna make a bang, why not a loud one?