justcause Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Exactly. That album makes you feel good in some way. I think that's why I have a hard time with it a lot. I'm not usually in a good mood. But it is fun to listen to. Some of the songs just make you happy inside. It is really hard to explain. I like 1039 SOSH and Kerplunk for the early sound. For some reason I like bands' earlier sounds at the moment. I like the raw feel. It is almost refreshing after you hear all the polished stuff out now. The early sound is clean and simple and the songs are really strong, and there's all that eagerness to them. It's also that each of the songs is about one thing, like loneliness or love - or coming clean, and they allow your head the space to just dwell on that. 'Pasalacqua' is such a beautiful song - if you saw them do it on Fuse lately, it stands up just as well today.
409InYouCoffeemaker Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 That was a great interview, thanks man. The two must have albums are definitely 1,039 smoothed out, and Warning....theyre just brillant
66dookie66 Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 My own favourite, apart from Insomniac, is Nimrod, and I'm surprised no-one has mentioned it, it maybe their finest songwriting on it - 'All the Time', 'Scattered', 'Worry Rock' - the glorious segue between 'Jinx' and 'Hauschinka' - you have to have it! Nimrod is one of my favourite too. But i think that's coz it was the first Green Day album I ever bought, so it has a special spot in my heart
SullenRiot Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 That song "Glycerine" has to have the shiftiest guitar sound ever. I like that song :ph34r:
greeenfreak Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Thanks for posting! That was really interesting to read!
66dookie66 Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Yes, thanks for posting the article! It's good to have some conversation about green day that isn't: "so who's hotter, billie joe or tre??"
pismodiver Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Warning? My least favourite! When I first heard 'Warning' was when I started to think that GD really might split up, as the rumors were, because it's sort of lacking in life or energy, with the exception of the singles. I know other people hold the opposite opinion. Put me in the pro-Warning camp. I am one of those new AI Green Day fans--(for which "I don't feel any shame, I won't apologize..."), so when I had my socks blown off by AI, I decided to work backwards through their canon. (Not that I had been living under a rock for the last 10 years; I knew all the Dookie singles just like anyone else with a pulse in 1994, but I could not have cared less.) I think Warning was an experimental album, with BJA intentionally stretching his song writing abilities. Misery in particular sounds nothing like anything they had ever done. It sounds more like a Kinks album than a work by the same group that did Dookie. And looking back from AI, Warning starts to look like the transition from the music of 20-something year old punks to the music of 30-something year old men. The lyrics to Warning and Minority would not be much out of place on AI. I imagine that people like me who knew AI first have more affinity with Warning than the people who discovered the band with Dookie. Thank you for posting this interview--it's an interesting look back. (Did anyone else notice that most of the people posting in this thread have don't have the massive picture sigs? Does that mean anything?)
justcause Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Put me in the pro-Warning camp. I am one of those new AI Green Day fans--(for which "I don't feel any shame, I won't apologize..."), so when I had my socks blown off by AI, I decided to work backwards through their canon. (Not that I had been living under a rock for the last 10 years; I knew all the Dookie singles just like anyone else with a pulse in 1994, but I could not have cared less.) I think Warning was an experimental album, with BJA intentionally stretching his song writing abilities. Misery in particular sounds nothing like anything they had ever done. It sounds more like a Kinks album than a work by the same group that did Dookie. And looking back from AI, Warning starts to look like the transition from the music of 20-something year old punks to the music of 30-something year old men. The lyrics to Warning and Minority would not be much out of place on AI. I imagine that people like me who knew AI first have more affinity with Warning than the people who discovered the band with Dookie. Thank you for posting this interview--it's an interesting look back. (Did anyone else notice that most of the people posting in this thread have don't have the massive picture sigs? Does that mean anything?) Yeah, Dookie would be my first, then I just fell in love with Insomniac and Nimrod, and then the earlier ones. I always sat down and read the lyrics first, to get a picture in my head before I listened to the songs, so then I would get kind of a double impact . Billie's lyrics are unique and more complex than they seem to be sometimes, and he tends to throw them around his mouth like chewing-gum, you can miss out on meaning if you're just listening. I think you're right about him stretching his abilities on Warning - to me, it was a little too smooth, but maybe that was just the direction he needed to go in . I like my Green Day with at least an edge of punk, and in Warning that was basically gone. Insomniac was return to their punk roots after Dookie, and Nimrod just has everything - from the taut rock of 'All the Time' to the retro-smooth of 'Redundant', lyrically brilliant - can't say enough about it, really! Maybe you're right and punk is a young man's game - for that matter, rock itself is maybe a young man's game. And there's no return from 86 - don't even try! :wink: By the way, on the subject of 'Misery' - Billie Joe says it could have easily come from 'Aladdin'! I quoted this elsewhere on the forum, and the response was 'he must have been high when he said that', which I can't confirm..! The quote is actually in the song meanings section of the GDA Home Page. I know he listened to every kind of music when he was looking for inspiration for AI, musicals among it - it shows in the great sweep of styles present on that album.
justcause Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Yes, thanks for posting the article! It's good to have some conversation about green day that isn't: "so who's hotter, billie joe or tre??" It really is - it makes it feel much more like a community of fans, doesn't it? We're all supposed to have a love of Green Day's music in common, and we spend very little time talking about it. Here's to more of this! P.S. Billie Joe, of course!
Dearly Beloved Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 They used to talk shit about bands in interviews, now they talk shit about presidents.
Lotus Eater Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 This is off-topic, but...do you reckon Dubya even knows who Green Day is? I know it seems like he should have heard about American Idiot because of all the "Anti-Bush" hype, but I can just imagine the man being totally oblivious to it, just like he is to...everything else.
dookiehead Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 "Henry Rollins has a stick up his ass. He's another bitter old bastard. Basically he's complaining because we've made more money than he has. But hey, Henry, you fucking suck." That was awesome.
sick Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 But I really think Guns N' Roses' 'Appetite for Destruction' has a really good sound. I like that record a lot. I'm not ashamed to say it, either. hehe thats one of my secret favorite albums ever.
justcause Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 This is off-topic, but...do you reckon Dubya even knows who Green Day is? I know it seems like he should have heard about American Idiot because of all the "Anti-Bush" hype, but I can just imagine the man being totally oblivious to it, just like he is to...everything else. Funny you should say that, someone told me that there was a piece somewhere to the effect that Dubya had only discovered Green Day in the last couple of weeks(!) and was none too pleased about it, calling them terrorists with guitars or somesuch. While that would be just hilarious, I checked it out on the net and I couldn't find any reference to it. Surely if he came out with something like that about America's Sweethearts, it would be all over the press? Maybe not - maybe I just have a Green Day-centric worldview!
Lotus Eater Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Funny you should say that, someone told me that there was a piece somewhere to the effect that Dubya had only discovered Green Day in the last couple of weeks(!) and was none too pleased about it, calling them terrorists with guitars or somesuch. While that would be just hilarious, I checked it out on the net and I couldn't find any reference to it. Surely if he came out with something like that about America's Sweethearts, it would be all over the press? Maybe not - maybe I just have a Green Day-centric worldview! That was a parody article someone posted here a few months ago. It was very obviously a joke.
st.billie Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 OH MAN. that made me lauugh :laugh: my favourite part Yeah, most people are either super into it or not really into at all. yeah, people either say Insomniac is their favourite GD album or they don't like it at all. i never heard enybody called it like 3rd fav album or something. i know bigest bullshit i heard and people keep saying about it is that it's just Dookie's follower, continuation, you know. i myself never noticed any similarity between those 2 albums. acctually, there are no two similar GD albums at all and i think it's what i like the most about them
WWJOSD? Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Best shit talking moment was when Tre said he'd like to choke Avril with her tie. :laugh: I'd love to see that interview...
st.billie Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 where's Tre in that whole interview? oh guess there were just BJ & Mike, i suppose Tre was in good mood that day
Lotus Eater Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Tre is up walking around the room while the others are talking, knocking things over and putting inappropriate things in the microwave.
DeathOrGlory Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 where's Tre in that whole interview? oh guess there were just BJ & Mike, i suppose Tre was in good mood that day Yeah, weird that they didn't interview Tre for a Guitar World article.
Dannit Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 hmm . . that Bush song Glycerine or whatever he made fun of, that has almost the exact same tabs as when i come around only farther down the fret board . . . and that song kind of sounds like green day sounds now! thats weird huh? i liked em better when the bashed bands, it was funnier and cooler
justcause Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 That was a parody article someone posted here a few months ago. It was very obviously a joke. lol - I didn't see it personally! Will pass that on to the guy who told me - after I kick him! :laugh: I actually doubt whether Green Day would impact on Dubya - given that he's the most appalling man and leader of people, he would still have better things to do than get his panties in a bunch because a pop star calls him an asshole. I mean, he can nuke things! It would be hard to quantify the effect Green DAy has had, and I know that many adults still wouldn't even know who they are, because they don't fall within their areas of interest - and also because these people are boring fuckers with no taste, obviously! I think Green DAys influence is among the young voters and soon-to-be voters, and I think they have really raised consciousness with this group, and that their inspiration will be a legacy they can be really proud of. It has to be said that a lot will count on how Green Day maintain their political stance - if it gets to look like a pose, then people will become disillusioned. They kind of need to see this thru... I would say that Dubya has 'people' whose job would be to observe the likes of our boys; and I would guarantee that the CIA has Billie, Mike and Tre in their little black book. These people hate artists because they stir things up! Watch out for the bugs, boys - not joking!
Lotus Eater Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 hmm . . that Bush song Glycerine . . . and that song kind of sounds like green day sounds now! thats weird huh? No it doesn't. He wasn't saying anything about the songwriting, just the sound quality. And I agree that it takes away from the song. I have it in my playlist, but I hardly ever actually listen to it. I think it's the muddy sound that just makes me go "No thanks." But what else can you expect from Green Day, if not Bush-bashing? :wink: :wink: :laugh: Ok, sorry for that.
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