WhiteTim Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: “Harm the record sales of FOAMF” LOL maybe that’s the plan to screw Warner over!!! If MOOTIK is real, it would be a smash hit!!! But it would also screw GD over as well
walking_c0ntradicti0n Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Flashback said: If the MOOTIK songs are real, there won‘t be an official announcement before the release of FOAMF. Such an announcement could harm the record sales of FOAMF and I‘m pretty sure that would be a breach of their contract with Warner. Maybe shortly before Hella Mega there will be an announcement but not before Between the divisive artwork and music out so far coupled with the fact that release is in February I'm sure there's already been a blow to FOAM album sales
Christian's Inferno! Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 48 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: “Harm the record sales of FOAMF” LOL maybe that’s the plan to screw Warner over!!! If MOOTIK is real, it would be a smash hit!!! You're really good at crafting nonsense theories
Verycool99 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 I just hope one day we find out what the actual song in the videos is, because it sounds amazing.
Sanity Loan Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 23 hours ago, Herroon said: Matt's silence may be telling... 👀 It's not.
Thatsername Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Matt. said: It's not. Okay. But could you explain just one more thing: If I remember correctly, when the whole MOOTIK thing came up there was a moment (when we saw the album cover in the videos) where even you said it could be legit, but then (very quickly) you changed your mind again and said you're leaning towards fake. Based on which info did you change your mind and then change it back? Or are you not allowed to say?
walking_c0ntradicti0n Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Thatsername said: Okay. But could you explain just one more thing: If I remember correctly, when the whole MOOTIK thing came up there was a moment (when we saw the album cover in the videos) where even you said it could be legit, but then (very quickly) you changed your mind again and said you're leaning towards fake. Based on which info did you change your mind and then change it back? Or are you not allowed to say? I'm guessing it's because he knew of the FOAM artwork at this point?
GDFan2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 The whole theory about this being fake just doesn’t make sense to me! I mean, why would a relatively unknown band like Panicland even want to fake something like this? I mean, do you really think they said to each other, “Dude, wouldn’t it be funny if we made up a fake Green Day album to fool all their fans?” Green Day would’ve spoken out about this already saying that FOAMF is the only album coming out in February! Instead, Billie hinted at more new music after FOAMF and before the tour!!!
localinsomniac Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: The whole theory about this being fake just doesn’t make sense to me! I mean, why would a relatively unknown band like Panicland even want to fake something like this? I mean, do you really think they said to each other, “Dude, wouldn’t it be funny if we made up a fake Green Day album to fool all their fans?” Green Day would’ve spoken out about this already saying that FOAMF is the only album coming out in February! Instead, Billie hinted at more new music after FOAMF and before the tour!!! An unknown band like Panicland? That's exactly why they would want to fabricate something in the name of a bigger act. How many of us knew who they were before that video from the Longshot show? A few, not many. I want this to be real as much as anyone else, but you're really grasping at straws here. Only time will tell whether any of this is the real deal, it seems.
walking_c0ntradicti0n Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, localinsomniac said: An unknown band like Panicland? That's exactly why they would want to fabricate something in the name of a bigger act. How many of us knew who they were before that video from the Longshot show? A few, not many. I want this to be real as much as anyone else, but you're really grasping at straws here. Only time will tell whether any of this is the real deal, it seems. I definitely agree that they would do this for publicity but I do also feel like if nothing was actually on the way and Green Day knew that fact along with the leaks (which by now they must've heard SOMETHING) I don't understand why they wouldn't shut that down Especially considering they shut down the July 19 rumor
GDFan2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, walking_c0ntradicti0n said: I definitely agree that they would do this for publicity but I do also feel like if nothing was actually on the way and Green Day knew that fact along with the leaks (which by now they must've heard SOMETHING) I don't understand why they wouldn't shut that down Exactly!! In 2008, the 21CB demo leaked online and either Green Day themselves or Warner had it taken down in one day!!!
walking_c0ntradicti0n Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, GDFan2019 said: Exactly!! In 2008, the 21CB demo leaked online and either Green Day themselves or Warner had it taken down in one day!!! I feel like this can't be compared to the current thing happening for a few reasons 1) The instagram videos are short clips that may not all be the same song (but some of them definitely are) whereas the demo was meant to be the full version of their own song, rather than some random shit panicland made up 2) If the leaks are panicland then GD may not necessarily have to force them into removing the videos, but I definitely don't get why they wouldn't put out an announcement a la July 2019 saying "hey this music wasn't made by us" 3) If the leaks are Green Day then we're back to the leaked on purpose for excitement thing Obviously this is putting aside the whole bUt PaNiClAnD aT tHe LoNgShOt gIg thing but I'm not really in the mood to get back into that debate Spoiler That last little bit is probably just saltiness that some hopes and dreams might be crushed but hey it be like that
localinsomniac Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 51 minutes ago, walking_c0ntradicti0n said: I definitely agree that they would do this for publicity but I do also feel like if nothing was actually on the way and Green Day knew that fact along with the leaks (which by now they must've heard SOMETHING) I don't understand why they wouldn't shut that down Especially considering they shut down the July 19 rumor Off the top of my head, the only reason I can think of to shut down a rumor like this is if it stood to harm them in some way. One could argue that it's possible in this case, as there clearly some here at GDC who find the questionable clips we've heard to be superior to the legitimately released tracks. I think it's debatable whether it'll actually hurt album sales, though.
Thatsername Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, walking_c0ntradicti0n said: but I'm not really in the mood to get back into that debate Yeah it already kind of feel like the whole community got collectively stuck in a time loop.
Eric Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Flashback said: What happened in July 2019? nothing.
Little Boy Named Booze Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 8 hours ago, GDFan2019 said: Green Day would’ve spoken out about this already saying that FOAMF is the only album coming out in February! Yeah like they're going to do a press conference to tell the world ''Hey y'know this MOOTIK thing that nobody knows except some people on GDC? Well it's not us''
localinsomniac Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Flashback said: What happened in July 2019? The day K! Radio said there would be a single dropping. That was when GD's team stepped in and said there'd be no new music "anytime soon".
Flashback Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, localinsomniac said: The day K! Radio said there would be a single dropping. That was when GD's team stepped in and said there'd be no new music "anytime soon". Ah sure, can remember again. Thanks!
pacejunkie punk Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, localinsomniac said: The day K! Radio said there would be a single dropping. That was when GD's team stepped in and said there'd be no new music "anytime soon". They didn’t step in on their own though. I think Kerrang reached out to them for clarification after leaking the rumor on air. A little late to do due diligence but at least they did it and got a response. There’s no one like that to ask management for a response in this case because no one but a handful of hardcore fans are talking about it. This might only get one if it caused a stir in the major media like that did. (Or if a journalist asked the band during an interview like they did over the songs for assholes account. I was surprised that got Kerrang’s attention enough to ask but it did) How about someone reaching out to Kerrang with this story and asking them if it’s worth their investigating (if you’re not afraid of them thinking you’re nuts)?
localinsomniac Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: They didn’t step in on their own though. I think Kerrang reached out to them for clarification after leaking the rumor on air. Ah, you're right! An important detail- I wonder if they would have spoken up had no one reached out for comment? Could be interesting if some media outlet pinged them about this MOOTIK thing. I wouldn't expect much more than a vague non-answer though.
pacejunkie punk Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, localinsomniac said: Ah, you're right! An important detail- I wonder if they would have spoken up had no one reached out for comment? Could be interesting if some media outlet pinged them about this MOOTIK thing. I wouldn't expect much more than a vague non-answer though. Like with the songs for assholes account, if they don’t want you to know what’s behind it they won’t tell you. But if it’s flat out not them behind it they might confirm (as I think Billie already did to a fan but for some reason people aren’t accepting that).
cav9mm Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Do we know what exactly Billie has and hasn’t said to fans about this ?
Guest Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: for some reason people aren’t accepting that Maybe, just maybe, the reason is that anyone can claim Billie told them something. Also because people so desperately still want MOOTIK.
localinsomniac Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, pacejunkie punk said: Like with the songs for assholes account, if they don’t want you to know what’s behind it they won’t tell you. But if it’s flat out not them behind it they might confirm (as I think Billie already did to a fan but for some reason people aren’t accepting that). It's apples and oranges though. We know for certain they're behind the SFA account. Someone said they asked Billie about MOOTIK and he allegedly said there was nothing to it. We only have that person's word to go on, which is why I have a hard time accepting it. Not just because it's hearsay, but because it felt (to me) like a copycat of TJChrobo's conversation; like it was said to get a rise out of people. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, I don't know.
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