Magnum Opus Of The Inglorious Kind - confirmed NOT to be Green Day

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

3 minutes ago, Tubbie Head said:

Oh definitely! 

Hahah I won't mind either! I wasn't even disappointed and I wanted to believe it so hard hahahah

It's just too good!

Same. I didn't really believe it but I wanted it to turn out to be real

 

[That Dude]

Good job, Panicland.   As I clicked subscribe on your youtube channel and looked you up on social media, I realized what the goal was here and you've done it.    Their subscribers and followers are going up and up and up, because Green Day are so great.   

 

[Guest]

@Panicland. Been listening to the two tracks on repeat. We need them all. Fucking hell. You really are inglorious bastards.

[stories and songs]

I can’t even say I’m disappointed. I don’t care who made the music, I just want to hear it!

The concept of a fanfic album is so innovative. Super excited for it.

[Billie Hoe]

Totally agree with @Thatsername, this is the first time I've felt excited and good about "Green Day" since before they announced the Hella Mega Tour. I've been letting Green Day and what they do on a daily basis just completely go past me, didnt even care if they performed or attended an event or released a single or whatever, and in my... 12-13 year career as a Green Day fan, that has never happened before. And now I'm actually giddy again, I'm enthusiastic about releases and news, I'm talking to my friends about it and showing that video to my family who dont even like Green Day, just like I always did with Green Day stuff.  Even THEY have noticed that my "Green Day phase is over". I'm even checking this thread everyday, can you believe????

Panicland's GD songs are really really good and even though their music usually isn't really my thing, I'm doing the whole excitement thing again, just for their fanfic instead of the original that I should have liked.

MOOTIK is the Green Day album that should have been and I'm happy Panicland have decided to give it to us

BTW

[steve46]

Nothing from GD yet. I think they are not so amused. I am also not very happy with that.

[killjoywhatsername]

I love these songs but I have to wonder if FOAM was better.. would be people be requesting them so much. 

[Littleshi]

fake fake fake, but again, panicland posting songs with samples of the recording of american Idiot, they dont have the rights, green day dont have the rights either. please someone can explain me how this band is promoting itselft this way? if use samples from american idiot for my own and get some credit warner will act.  who knows about panicland before this?

 

[Billie Hoe]

1 minute ago, steve46 said:

Nothing from GD yet. I think they are not so amused. I am also not very happy with that.

Bill said they think it's funny

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

4 minutes ago, steve46 said:

Nothing from GD yet. I think they are not so amused. I am also not very happy with that.

I couldn't care less.

[steve46]

I think that this whole shit is fake again. Panicland and Green Day are fucking us together. No way that they would allow to use their material for such fan fiction. The band MUST know about this. 

[Red]

6 minutes ago, Bully Hoe said:

Bill said they think it's funny

Wait what really? could you please quote where you saw this?

And if they really think its funny, I think it truly adds to the proof (like as if we need more) that FOAM is not the real album.

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

Just now, steve46 said:

I think that this whole shit is fake again. Panicland and Green Day are fucking us together. No way that they would allow to use their material for such fan fiction. The band MUST know about this. 

They know about it. It was their tour manager who gave us the video where Panicland explain how they created the leaks.

[WorryRock02]

21 minutes ago, Kyrthical said:

@Panicland. Been listening to the two tracks on repeat. We need them all. Fucking hell. You really are inglorious bastards.

Me too. 😍

[greenalert997x]

It's been a ride! I just finished reading the last 10 pages and saw Panicland video

Honestly, I'm not even mad at them after all. It's nice that they've clarified and we officially know it was a one big hoax.

I think MOOTIK will always be a part of FOAMF era. Hours of analyzing and collecting evidences. We've made 119 pages XD

 

It's actually weird that the concept of new GD album turned out to be the opposite of how we'd perceived MOOTIK to be.

[Tubbie Head]

5 minutes ago, RisingRedWolf said:

Wait what really? could you please quote where you saw this?

And if they really think its funny, I think it truly adds to the proof (like as if we need more) that FOAM is not the real album.

I don't know how any fan would think Green Day, of all people, wouldn't find this funny! They are jokesters themselves. 

[Chin for a Day]

This is way better than FOAM

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

In theory, they would need Warner approval: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/permission-sampled-music-sample-clearance-30165.html

Note that when you sample music from a pop recording, you need two clearances:

- one from the copyright owner of the song, which is usually a music publisher, and

- one from the copyright owner of the master tapes, which is usually a record company.

Yet, they are probably risking it since they know GD doesn’t care, and in the eventuality Warner sues them they might try to have this labeled as a “fair use”, under one of these three exception factors: 

“When reviewing fair use questions, courts primarily look for three factors:

- You did not take a substantial amount of the original work (say, ten seconds of a song versus 60 seconds).

- You transformed the material in some way (for instance, you added new base sounds to a melody).

- You did not cause significant financial harmto the copyright owner (perhaps you are using a bit of classical music in your heavy metal rock song, which appeals to a different market).“
 

I think all of them could be used in defense of Panicland, yet: 

“Do not believe the widespread myth that "less than two seconds is fair use." There is no "magic number" like this. Also, some courts apply a fair use rule only to the musical composition copyright, not the sound recording copyright. For example, one judge ruled that any musical sampling violated the sound recording copyright.

You can use the above arguments to defend yourself against a lawsuit for sampling without permission. The problem: You will not know for sure which way the judge will rule. And, most likely you will have to hire an attorney to represent you in court.”

In short it all depends on the court where they case would end up, and consequently on whether Warner actually wants to put its lawyers in motion for this. 
 

[Thatsername]

1 hour ago, Beerjeezus said:

This is so fascinating. I believe this is a quite unique situation. Of course for most of us this will forever stay a funny prank we fell for, but at the same time it's kind of redefining what "a green day album" means. This is different from fanfiction, because we did believe this was Green Day and we most probably would've happily kept believing it for a while if it wasn't for Panicland admitting to it. So yeah, when we're listening to Magnum Opus the same way we would listen to a legit GD record ("it's giving me some of those Green Day moments" instead of "haha these guys played us so hard") and putting it on the shelf alongside our collections, we basically have a Green Day album that's been written and recorded by somebody else. Which is really amazing, considering that two days ago, no one would think of the possibility that Green Day could be anything but BJA and co.

Oh yes. Didn't even Einstein say "Green Day is relative"?

[Red]

6 minutes ago, Tubbie Head said:

I don't know how any fan would think Green Day, of all people, wouldn't find this funny! They are jokesters themselves. 

I mean I can name a few, like the fact that Panicland uses a lot of samples from the band's work (most likely without permission) but the biggest reason is that most people don't care for FOAM and cared far more for this. 

I'd like to think they supported and encouraged this, but ahh I dunno about that, it's a little dodgey.

I really hope Panicland don't get in any trouble for this.

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

If Green Day or Warner sued Panicland, this would blow up and even more people would listen to MOOTIK and even more people would think MOOTIK is better than FOAM, so it's in everyone's best interest to not sue

[AnonymWarnerGermany]

I heard Warner won't sue Panicland, if they release Rome falls today 👀

[Tubbie Head]

4 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

If Green Day or Warner sued Panicland, this would blow up and even more people would listen to MOOTIK and even more people would think MOOTIK is better than FOAM, so it's in everyone's best interest to not sue

Suing would definitely make Green Day look bad.

[IcyMoffatt]

I can't believe people hang on for months to the theory when it was proven that the videos were from Panicland's studio. I must admit: I was fooled by the prank until long ago I realized from which studio the videos were from. And I feel bad to have spilled oil on the fire when I pointed out the Instagram account's name was refering to a character from a movie Billie loves. It convinced more people GD were behind it. I fell into the trap set by Panicland. Seriously, well done @Panicland for fooling GDC for so long, but I still think you were seeking for attention again by doing the hoax.

 

19 hours ago, Little Boy Named Airplane said:

Panicland can't be more Canadian. Filming their "revelation" in front of a Tim Hortons ❤

I thought the same thing. We can't argue from which country Panicland is from. LoL.

 

21 hours ago, AnonymWarnerGermany said:

Panicland should consider doin more rock stuff. These songs are so f.ing good.

I agree. They have more talent doing rock music than with their pop candy normal stuff. I have my own point of view of pop boys bands. Panicland has talent, but... my words will be too hard on them so I will just say: @Panicland change your style to rock music, don't continue as a pop boy band.

 

23 hours ago, GDFan2019 said:

Imagine how awesome it would be if this whole situation gets Panicland a spot on the Hella Mega Tour!!!

Please no!!!

 

22 hours ago, paperlanterns22 said:

So this is what happens when I stay off this site for 24 hours, interesting 

I have been gone for near a month. I feel late to the party due to my computer breaking down near a month ago. Anyway, I missed GDC and this sick thread.

 

On 12/12/2019 at 8:11 AM, Hermione said:

Anyone want to tell me who or what Panicland is and how it relates to Green Day/a supposed extra Green Day album?

Besides what other people already told you, Panicland met the Longshot when the band was in Toronto. They are the guys from Billie's video who were singing to him in the hotel's parking/entrance.

[GDFan2019]

40 minutes ago, steve46 said:

I think that this whole shit is fake again. Panicland and Green Day are fucking us together. No way that they would allow to use their material for such fan fiction. The band MUST know about this. 

I even said a couple pages back, what if the songs were written by Billie, the instrumental tracks recorded by Green Day, then they paid Panicland to record fake vocals!!!!