AnonymWarnerGermany Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Based on what you say this? You don’t need to sell an item containing a copyright infringement to have a copyright infringement. Of course they can be sued even if they release it for free. You can get sued if you upload or download a free torrent containing a copyrighted item, this is a totally different case but the legal principles at the ground of it are essentially the same. And it’s quite funny that now everyone says that the Green Day samples are irrelevant when you all felt for this exactly because of those samples 😄 Thats bs, sorry. If they replace the GD-Samples with their voices, there is nothing illegal about this. Its 100% original songs
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, AnonymWarnerGermany said: Thats bs, sorry. If they replace the GD-Samples with their voices, there is nothing illegal about this. Its 100% original songs You didn’t say this in the previous post You said “If they don’t sell them they can’t be sued”, which is absolutely not true. Of course if they remove the samples they can do whatever they want with them, but they would not be the same songs you felt for in the first place
Guest Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 I'm sure if a Dropbox link containing a zip file with the recorded songs surfaced here... From a new account using a VPN... Untraceable back... Then there's no legal ground to sue. That's what most people are trying to say, I think. Not like uploading it to YouTube as Panicland.
AnonymWarnerGermany Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: You didn’t say this in the previous post You said “If they don’t sell them they can’t be sued”, which is absolutely not true. Of course if they remove the samples they can do whatever they want with them, but they would not be the same songs you felt for in the first place I think it wouldnt make a huge difference. Its only little samples. Im just dying to get the songs. Pls @Panicland , were all waiting. Also if youre sending me a dropbox link, I will post it lol :x
MillenniumFan Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 Well, if I were @Panicland, I'd reach out to Green Day (since they seem to able to do that fairly easily) and ask them for permission to release the songs for free (or they could monetise it with profits going to Green Day/Warner, although that would be a little unfair for them). There's plenty of precedent for this on YouTube however, with people using backing tracks (the actual instrumentation) for their covers or simply covering entire songs without asking for permission. Technically that's all not allowed, but they even make money from it in a lot of cases due to monetisation. So there's some people "illegally" profiting from it, while in other cases the record label monetises the video, but it doesn't get pulled down. So, sure it would require Green Day's approval, but if they really have a sense of humour as @foxborohottub said, they should give it the go ahead.
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, AnonymWarnerGermany said: I think it wouldnt make a huge difference. Its only little samples. Im just dying to get the songs. Pls Panicland, were all waiting. Also if youre sending me a dropbox link, I will post it lol :x Man, I understand this, but it’s not “just little bits”, this thread lived for three months because “that sounds like Billie Joe and there’s no way that Panicland singer can sound like Billie Joe”, despite the facts that many people tried to explain several times how relatively easy it is for someone with the right knowledge and tools to do replicate that. Now that they show you that they actually made you totally fell for that doing what many people repeated in here for months, you you say that the Green Day samples are irrelevant. That’s hilarious to say the least 4 minutes ago, MillenniumFan said: Well, if I were @Panicland, I'd reach out to Green Day (since they seem to able to do that fairly easily) and ask them for permission to release the songs for free (or they could monetise it with profits going to Green Day/Warner, although that would be a little unfair for them). There's plenty of precedent for this on YouTube however, with people using backing tracks (the actual instrumentation) for their covers or simply covering entire songs without asking for permission. Technically that's all not allowed, but they even make money from it in a lot of cases due to monetisation. So, sure it would require Green Day's approval, but if they really have a sense of humour, they should give it the go ahead. That’s right but, and I am not sure about this, I think that even with GD approval they could still have Warner’s suing their asses.
AnonymWarnerGermany Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Man, I understand this, but it’s not “just little bits”, this thread lived for three months because “that sounds like Billie Joe and there’s no way that Panicland singer can sound like Billie Joe”, despite the facts that many people tried to explain several times how relatively easy it is for someone with the right knowledge and tools to do replicate that. Now that they show you that they actually made you totally fell for that doing what many people repeated in here for months, you you say that the Green Day samples are irrelevant. That’s hilarious to say the least Well its just "HEYS" and screams. The actual vocals are from the panicland singer and sound really close to billie. They dont need to replace that.
Doggins Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 Haha that is HILARIOUS!!! I'm glad it's all out of the bag now. Wow, I'm impressed. I love that it all started from a fake tracklisting. That is seriously.. epic Anyway.. bratwurst is real.. isnt it??
Im.a.basket.case Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 How much longer do you guys think until the mods finally close this thread?
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Im.a.basket.case said: How much longer do you guys think until the mods finally close this thread? Not before Panicland give us the songs
Doggins Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 I think its worth keeping a thread for this
Thatsername Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Doggins said: I think its worth keeping a thread for this We should turn it into a book. And a movie, with a soundtrack by Panicland.
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, AnonymWarnerGermany said: Well its just "HEYS" and screams. The actual vocals are from the panicland singer and sound really close to billie. They dont need to replace that. They stacked those heys and screams and choirs to their singer voice to make it sound like Billie, that’s the point of it. If you remove those bits the song changes, and most probably you would have not felt for it in the first place. Sure, they can remove those bits, rearrange the songs and release them as Panicland, but I am pretty sure that if that was what they explicitly did in the first place you would have not cared about the whole thing for one second, because it would have just been another “Green day wannabe band”. IMHO of course.
Guest Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: Not before Panicland give us the songs Fuck yeah!
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 I think it'd be interesting to get some input from a Canadian lawyer and I think we have at least one on this forum amirite Just now, Thatsername said: We should turn it into a book. And a movie, with a soundtrack by Panicland. I'm turning it into a paper for my art marketing class
Guest Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Beerjeezus said: I'm turning it into a paper for my art marketing class I want to see that 🤔 (You're Czech, right?)
Thatsername Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: They stacked those heys and screams and choirs to their singer voice to make it sound like Billie, that’s the point of it. If you remove those bits the song changes, and most probably you would have not felt for it in the first place. Sure, they can remove those bits, rearrange the songs and release them as Panicland, but I am pretty sure that if that was what they explicitly did in the first place you would have not cared about the whole thing for one second, because it would have just been another “Green day wannabe band”. IMHO of course. The funniest thing about all of this for me is that all people who told us we are stupid for believing it's Green Day/Billie were proven wrong in the end. Because technically, it was Billie's voice we heard 😛 Our Billie radar wasn't so wrong after all, for what it's worth.
Hermione Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 3 hours ago, ImNotInGreenDaydummy said: “HEY DONT TALK ABOUT PANICLAND IN THE PANICLAND THREAD!” fuck off retard. it’s an internet message board, we can post what we want. Telling people to fuck off and, particularly, calling people retards isn't acceptable on here. Verbal warning not to throw insults around please. Also I don't keep up with this thread so I don't know what the hell is being discussed, but this isn't a spam thread. If there is spamming or trolling going on can you not. If anyone is annoyed by spamming/trolling/off topic posts please report them.
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, Thatsername said: The funniest thing about all of this for me is that all people who told us we are stupid for believing it's Green Day were proven wrong in the end. Because technically, it was Billie's voice we heard 😛 Our Billie radar wasn't so wrong after all, for what it's worth. Except what we have been saying for months is that the most probable option was that someone sampled Green Day and stacked Billie’s voice, and you/the people buying this stuff for three months kept saying “it’s impossible/too much effort”. So no, you guys are clearly the ones who have been wrong all along
Im.a.basket.case Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hermione said: Telling people to fuck off and, particularly, calling people retards isn't acceptable on here. Verbal warning not to throw insults around please. Also I don't keep up with this thread so I don't know what the hell is being discussed, but this isn't a spam thread. If there is spamming or trolling going on can you not. If anyone is annoyed by spamming/trolling/off topic posts please report them. This entire thread has proven to be one massive troll yesterday.
Guest Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Im.a.basket.case said: This entire thread has proven to be one massive troll yesterday. And yet, here we are... Page 107 of endless speculation... I feel so sorry for @GDFan2019
Squashie Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hermione said: Telling people to fuck off and, particularly, calling people retards isn't acceptable on here. Verbal warning not to throw insults around please. Also I don't keep up with this thread so I don't know what the hell is being discussed, but this isn't a spam thread. If there is spamming or trolling going on can you not. If anyone is annoyed by spamming/trolling/off topic posts please report them. Bill (foxborohottub) asked the thread to be closed back on page 88-89 when he posted the like to the video proving this theory to be a hoax.
Thatsername Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Except what we have been saying for months is that the most probable option was that someone sampled Green Day and stacked Billie’s voice, and you/the people buying this stuff for three months kept saying “it’s impossible/too much effort”. So no, you guys are clearly the ones who have been wrong all along Hahaha yeah sure I know some of you did, but there were also some people on here claiming it’s definitely not Billie, I was more talking about them (I just quoted you because you pointed out the editing process).
Guest Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, DadBod said: Bill (foxborohottub) asked the thread to be closed back on page 88-89 when he posted the like to the video proving this theory to be a hoax. I mean, we're still having fun here, aren't we? This thread is the best thread and Bill ain't a mod. If it gets locked down I'll eat all my records.
Hermione Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Im.a.basket.case said: This entire thread has proven to be one massive troll yesterday. If anyone could be kind enough to bring me up to speed on this I could decide whether the thread should be closed or not I assumed maybe there were other "theories" being discussed as well as the original one, but if it's just one and it's been debunked can't see much point in keeping the thread. Is there anything other than discussion of a debunked theory and spam going on?
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