gaslight13 Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 4 hours ago, lbw87 said: lyrics for the bridge? It goes to show ya When they say that love is pain Only the lonesome Got to wait around for the tears to go away YES! I think you nailed it. I knew there was an "a" sound in there but i kept hearing "got away" which made no sense "gotta wait" works perfectly.
LaughingClock Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 12 hours ago, DookieLukie said: @LaughingClock your hints have kept me coming back to this forum in interest rather than ignoring it until the next big release. Thanks for keeping us in the know with hints and keeping this process fun for everyone. Can I ask what you do for a living that makes you so well connected? The last real info I had that I dropped is that they would be going back in the studio very shortly after finishing the tour and pay attention to the flick. What I didn't say at the time was I knew there would be a minimum of one new track and that it was USA at the tie I was told for the GH album. I had heard there were other songs but didn't know what for. I have a heard a couple demos and they are awesome but they are demos and might sound nothing like what will be, and THAT'S IF it will be. Countless demos for every one fully recorded songs. @DookieLukie, thank you so much for those kind words! What I do for a career, I am a promoter/producer in the world you care about and am also a VFX Supervisor/Artist for film & video. If you're interested farther, just PM me. I don't claim to be "in the know" or anything like that though. I just happen to be lucky enough to know a few people that very much are and I've always fed things around here since I think the TCB tour and never left. GD has always been my favorite band and for the most part, I really like the people around here but I am not trying to be the man or anything. Quite the opposite. I get excited and want to say what I KNOW or THINK just like everyone else, unfortunately sometimes that can get me ribbed. I'm not afraid of any REAL trouble or anything like you guys seem to think I am, Believe me, if I would have, it would have been when I said back in studio shortly after tour which had so many periodicals in my inbox you wouldn't believe it.
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 50 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said: Ok but where are the clues @LaughingClock Could you please post a quick recap of your clues? Lol
gaslight13 Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 On 4/9/2018 at 2:26 AM, gaslight13 said: Anyone wanna help fill in the gaps/make any corrections with the lyrics? This is what I was able to figure out with a few listens. I'm about 95% confident in what I got but not 100% and still missing some pieces.... I’m riding shotgun in a car that’s broken down Nowhere to run and this city’s like a ghost town And I’m feeling like a stranger And I’m stranded in the dark Hey kid love is for losers now, alright Stupid kid you’re a loser now, alright My heart’s a has-been for my long lost valentine I search the winter for the bride of Frankenstein Well we all got our delusions Say goodbye to an old flame Hey kid Love is for losers now, alright Stupid kid you’re a loser now, alright It goes to show ya When they say that all love is pain Only the lonesome Gotta wait around for the tears to go away Hey kid Love is for losers now, alright Stupid kid you’re a loser now, alright EDIT: w/ help from @lbw87, @Cheap Escape , @Verycool99 Reposting this because I've made edits and I THINK it's now accurate. Thanks to anyone who helped fill the gaps!
uptightallthetime Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 Jeff Matika tweeted a few hours ago, "I miss you already", presumably to his girlfriend. I wonder if he is off to hang out with friends? A secret gig / album release party in California next Monday is my bold, optimistic, clueless guess.
LaughingClock Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, neverdone2000 said: @LaughingClock Could you please post a quick recap of your clues? Lol Guys, it's all in there. If you take the people using their mind like above this post, you will figure it out. I cannot say anything if I knew it for sure which I don't anyway. i only have heard from other people, just like you guys, but by people who are probably dead on. Lol. 1 hour ago, Joe. said: I've had conversations with @LaughingClock and said the same thing, but honestly I don't think its intentional. He's just someone that's "in the know" about Green Day and the wider music industry and is clearly passionate about it to openly talk about it. Whilst it can be kinda annoying (we had a bit of a bust-up over it) its not personal Just saw this. Cheers Joe! Yeah, I don't want to be an asshole. I just sort of accidentally am. But I love y'all.
kripack Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 I just thought that the vocal filters on Love is For Losers (and honestly overall sound) reminds me very much of Gerard Way's Hesitant Alien. And for me it's a good thing.
LaughingClock Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, kripack said: I just thought that the vocal filters on Love is For Losers (and honestly overall sound) reminds me very much of Gerard Way's Hesitant Alien. And for me it's a good thing. Sorry for going off topic but your avvie reminded me of this SONG THAT EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN to at least once in their life:
Stuart 86 Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 anyone have noticed that billie joe is following this ig account ? is jeff matika running it ? somebody know something ?
Paola17 Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 @LaughingClock - as others have stated, please keep on mentioning these hints when you have or know them, if you are able to that is. Regardless of there being details or not, I personally love having a heads up regarding possible activity with these guys. Either way, back to The Longshot. They've followed over 1000 people by now. It was under 900 not too long ago either. They sure love having us wait - not that I mind. I'm grateful to those that have access and have been passing along the messages. I'm curious to see what the activity regarding Joseph will amount to, if it does at all.
Billie Hoe Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 Is that Billie Joe actually liking pictures? When did that happen?
pacejunkie punk Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said: Is that Billie Joe actually liking pictures? When did that happen? Yeah for some reason I didn’t get the same notifications. Those didn’t show up for me.
That Dude Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 This song is in Billie's lyrical sweetspot, I love it. I googled "Billie Joe Armstrong project Longshot" and two websites talked about what we know already, but said that Green Day were taking "time off from making music to focus on the American Idiot film that is well under way". Album 13 is forming in Billie's head. He might not even know it yet, but he's having fun playing these Rock N Roll songs with The Longshot, and if they are indeed working on an American Idiot film, I would imagine hearing your finest work again and seeing it be revitalized yet again 14-15 years later, he can't help but be inspired. It could inspire him to make an album like it, or it could inspire him to do something totally different and crazy and just get beyond the fear that it will fail like the Trilogy. Who knows what "different" could be this time around . Some would call Green Day formulaic, but I say that for a modern day rock band, they've made a pretty big artistic statement. They've made some bold music - they virtually created the 90s Punk sound with their first 3 albums. They went darker with Insomniac and then they really got brave with the variety on Nimrod. And after that it's been a change of pace with each release. Sure there is a common sound, but Kerplunk and Warning sound like totally different bands made them. I've got this strange idea about Green Day that I just keep going back to. What else could Green Day do? What else could they say? And as for the American Idiot film, I hope it's actually going to happen this time. If there were a movie that was as good a movie as the album was musically, well I don't know what I would do. It has a lot to live up to, and due to the nature of the album, I'm sure there will be some things that are lost or changed in translation. I've started to write my own version of an American Idiot story several times and have never gotten around to finishing one. But back to The Longshot....................it's been an eternity in internet time. We need CONFIRMATION. Who is in this band? Is it Billie Joe or another Fink-like creep wearing a mask? Is he playing with someone he's rocked out with before or is a band of new players? I love "Love is for Losers", but I do sort of hope there are some parts of the album that are a little more different. If not, I understand. Billie loves Rock N Roll until the day he dies, and so do I. and as always, I want vocals from another band member, even though I don't even know who there is to pick from! Mike Dirnt or Tre Cool could have guest spots somewhere, or even those weirdos from The Network or FBHTs. U2......Rancid......I don't know, Lady Cobra! The Guys from Pinhead Gunpowder, Jesse Malin. I would love for Jesse Malin to be involved somehow. OH and one more thing. Vocal filters don't bother me one bit.
Sanity Loan Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 To add on to the discussion regarding chords, here is what I've got. I think it's pretty accurate. Still working on the little fills. Intro A D A D E Verse A D E A D E D Db Bm D Dm Chorus A D E A D E Bridge D A D A A-E F# A E
The Bellie Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 Thanks everyone for the lyrics update. The last sentence seems to be given shape now Does anyone else hear "get out" before the solo? As for my own interpretation, during the chorus Billie could be speaking to himself (maybe a younger himself) : "hey, kid, love is for losers / stupid kid, you're a loser now" because starting from some point he may have felt like this, as to make some sense of his pain due to loving. And when he says "alright", it's the current him speaking, acknowledging he thinks of himself as a loser, and that it's not a problem anymore: he has deliberately chosen to love and be that loser. As for @LaughingClock's clues, I personally never got to figure them out really, so I feel pretty awkward when you seem to suggest that they ain't so difficult to figure out. Oh well. I'm not the one who'd be asking for answers before it's the band or Billie themselves who give them to us. I agree with people here who expressed mixed feelings about having only the beginning of an information in a way, but I also imagine that : - while the majority of us genuinely freak out from knowing nothing and try to share all our thoughts in here as to figure out what we can from what we all get to see, - for those who have further information, when you post (and you may want to post like any of us!) I can understand that you won't do as if you were completely clueless. You rather be as natural, knowing a bit more, as the others are knowing a bit less. If that leads you to only give some sort of vague clue, because you can't give the information completely, I personally don't mind.
That Dude Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 19 hours ago, StillBreathing said: https://instagram.com/p/BhYHcZxnuNf/ Sounds like Nimrod on the latest clip Joey posted This one sounds better than Love is for Losers, and I love Love is for Losers!
gaslight13 Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Kuromignonne said: Thanks everyone for the lyrics update. The last sentence seems to be given shape now Does anyone else hear "get out" before the solo? As for my own interpretation, during the chorus Billie could be speaking to himself (maybe a younger himself) : "hey, kid, love is for losers / stupid kid, you're a loser now" because starting from some point he may have felt like this, as to make some sense of his pain due to loving. And when he says "alright", it's the current him speaking, acknowledging he thinks of himself as a loser, and that it's not a problem anymore: he has deliberately chosen to love and be that loser. I do hear that. Probably should've included it but for some reason didn't. I can definitely see that with the chorus. The whole phrase "____ is for losers" is a very high school or younger thing to say. So I do think that was a deliberate move to take the narrator back to the past. My interpretation of this song keeps developing but I have to say I'm really pleased with it because it feels like a big step forward in the story Billie has told in some of his songs over the years. We have all those songs about Amanda, which, in the literal sense, deal with his hang ups over how that relationship went. But (not to get too deep into psychoanalysis) I feel like a lot of his pain with that relationship went beyond her as a person and more into his own insecurities and loneliness/rejection, particularly in the punk world. Anyway, back to this song, I think this is that next step of reflecting on that pain and WHY it's taking so long to go away. He's acknowledging an element of delusion, chasing someone that may not be real or may not actually be what you would want (bride of Frankenstein) and this idea that he's still lost somewhere on this emotional ride even though the car is dead and no one else is there. And in the end reflecting on how all love is painful but only the "lonesome" types carry that pain with them and have to wait for it to go away. Although I can think of a few different directions to take the last piece.
Jinxs Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, gaslight13 said: I do hear that. Probably should've included it but for some reason didn't. I can definitely see that with the chorus. The whole phrase "____ is for losers" is a very high school or younger thing to say. So I do think that was a deliberate move to take the narrator back to the past. My interpretation of this song keeps developing but I have to say I'm really pleased with it because it feels like a big step forward in the story Billie has told in some of his songs over the years. We have all those songs about Amanda, which, in the literal sense, deal with his hang ups over how that relationship went. But (not to get too deep into psychoanalysis) I feel like a lot of his pain with that relationship went beyond her as a person and more into his own insecurities and loneliness/rejection, particularly in the punk world. Anyway, back to this song, I think this is that next step of reflecting on that pain and WHY it's taking so long to go away. He's acknowledging an element of delusion, chasing someone that may not be real or may not actually be what you would want (bride of Frankenstein) and this idea that he's still lost somewhere on this emotional ride even though the car is dead and no one else is there. And in the end reflecting on how all love is painful but only the "lonesome" types carry that pain with them and have to wait for it to go away. Although I can think of a few different directions to take the last piece. Of all the interpretations i have read on this particular forum. Yours is what i feel most accurate.
LaughingClock Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Kuromignonne said: As for @LaughingClock's clues, I personally never got to figure them out really, so I feel pretty awkward when you seem to suggest that they ain't so difficult to figure out. Oh well. I'm not the one who'd be asking for answers before it's the band or Billie themselves who give them to us. I agree with people here who expressed mixed feelings about having only the beginning of an information in a way, but I also imagine that : - while the majority of us genuinely freak out from knowing nothing and try to share all our thoughts in here as to figure out what we can from what we all get to see, Ok, this is getting out of fucking control. The only thing I said and it’s done is that they would be going into the studio shortly after the tour. That was definitely true. At the time, I knew about the GH album to be and that there would be at least one new song. In this thread, I’ve said that a couple of your own thoughts were down a right path. Read the last post I made before the Marley one. What I said when I said it a couple months ago had nothing to do with this. Ive said several times, even if I had info, which I said I don’t (I lied, I do) I wasn’t going to give any info because a) it’s not even appreciated by the majority, you guys act like I owe you something. I am excited just as you guys. I am a fan, a big one, since I was a child. I am as excited as everyone. But everyone doesn’t have a whole forum who thinks they owe them something for nothing. It’s not like I’m sitting here touting I know everything and I’m not telling! Nah nah ha nah nah. You guys sit here and contrary to what I’m saying circle jerk your way into “This guy is in the know, he can tell us no matter what it means to him at all. In fact, fuck him, I want to know damnit!”. This is to everyone that is harboring any resentment, distrust or frustration at me. If you are, get some coping skills and enjoy the ride. To everyone else, peace, love, unity, respect! Edit****To the OP, definitely not at you and I agree with you. I say all the time, the less I know, the happier I am. It’s like people that want to know that plot to a movie right before they see it. I would much prefer to just get it on the Friday it’s released. TRUTH! 17 minutes ago, gaslight13 said: I do hear that. Probably should've included it but for some reason didn't. I can definitely see that with the chorus. The whole phrase "____ is for losers" is a very high school or younger thing to say. So I do think that was a deliberate move to take the narrator back to the past. My interpretation of this song keeps developing but I have to say I'm really pleased with it because it feels like a big step forward in the story Billie has told in some of his songs over the years. We have all those songs about Amanda, which, in the literal sense, deal with his hang ups over how that relationship went. But (not to get too deep into psychoanalysis) I feel like a lot of his pain with that relationship went beyond her as a person and more into his own insecurities and loneliness/rejection, particularly in the punk world. Anyway, back to this song, I think this is that next step of reflecting on that pain and WHY it's taking so long to go away. He's acknowledging an element of delusion, chasing someone that may not be real or may not actually be what you would want (bride of Frankenstein) and this idea that he's still lost somewhere on this emotional ride even though the car is dead and no one else is there. And in the end reflecting on how all love is painful but only the "lonesome" types carry that pain with them and have to wait for it to go away. Although I can think of a few different directions to take the last piece. I haven’t quite “listened” to it fully yet but I like your interpretation. Makes me want to give my full listen and review sooner.
DookieLukie Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 So many song teases coming out. Wonder what the time table is. I don't want ALL the songs spoiled before the album release.
WhiteTim Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 So there’s a rock band called The Longshots and a rapper name Longshot and Billie just posted a image with the longshot with losers club added to it so he’s been watching Stephen King... I hope he releases the full track Happiness soon
p0t1 Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 "Hey kid love is for losers now, alright" reminds me a little bit to the first line of coming cleani mixed with waiting ’m riding shotgun in a car that’s broken down Nowhere to run and this city’s like a ghost town .... too much too soon with little changes.
p0t1 Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 15 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: See you when the war is over Someday when all this is over How unhappy is your happiness? this sound fresh and i really like the lyrics simple and deep. maybe its from when he was in rehab (internal war with herself) , But i read the world falling, meanwhile we are living fake lives too , like posting perfect moments in social media and pretend we are happy, (and we are soo happy pills now) . or the old classic american dream showed in back in the USA trump was ralling up that in campaing like if that its a good thing. my english its not very good sorry! . i dont understand what he sing in the first part but sound great.
The Grohl Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 I finally listened to Love is for Losers. Meh. It's not bad. It'll be cool to hear more but the song doesn't do much for me.
LaughingClock Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, kaylubd said: I finally listened to Love is for Losers. Meh. It's not bad. It'll be cool to hear more but the song doesn't do much for me. Keep listening. Force feed that shit god damnit! Ha! No, a few listens helps this track.
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