Poll - 21st Century Breakdown vs Revolution Radio

[Maddie86]

revrad. I liked 21st a lot when it first came out but now it's probably one of my least favorite GD albums (that doesn't mean it's a bad album though). I feel like 21st was trying to be American Idiot part 2 where as revrad is its own thing, I like that revrad doesn't have characters.

[norcalgreendayfan]

I like both albums both have very good songs but if I had to choose I would go with 21st Century Breakdown I find I like the songs on there more.

25 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said:

21st has like 2 decent songs. I mean RevRad is shitty too but at least it has 6 good songs.

 

12 minutes ago, JardyOfSuburbia said:

Blasphemy. 21st Century Breakdown, Before The Lobotomy, Last Night On Earth, East Jesus Nowhere, Murder City, Restless Heart Syndrome, The Static Age, 21 Guns and American Eulogy are all terrific.

Thank you for proving what I was about to say Jardy and you can add Peacemaker to that list

[Wretched & Divine]

4 hours ago, Steven Seagull said:

Trilogy

Why are you people acting like these 3 albums never happened? They are superior to both 21st Century Shitshow and RevRad

Who is acting like they didn't happen? Does a Warning vs Dookie poll mean the person is acting like Nimrod and Insomniac don't exist? lol you don't have to piss on someone else's parade when you can create your own poll easily. Your opinion is valid, but so is everyone else's.

[Billie Hoe]

Oooh. Sorry. No, I love Revolution Radio very much but nothing will ever top 21st CB, I think.

[unextraordinarygirl]

33 minutes ago, Asik said:

I dont why you keep posting such useless posts. Its always better to keep silence than say some bullshit

Shhhhhhh don't feed the troll! 

I prefer RevRad hands down. It's just a better album. 21CB has some good songs on it but it's too long and I get tired of it by the end. I can't listen to it over and over like I can with other GD albums. 

[Steven Seagull]

38 minutes ago, JardyOfSuburbia said:

Blasphemy. 21st Century Breakdown, Before The Lobotomy, Last Night On Earth, East Jesus Nowhere, Murder City, Restless Heart Syndrome, The Static Age, 21 Guns and American Eulogy are all terrific.

I had to listen to some of these just to remind myself why they are so bad. 21st CB must be the softest GD album ever. The only two I liked were 21 guns and the one with Mike singing. (yeah I don't even remember the title)

 

44 minutes ago, MysticManiac said:

Seriously? You think 6 out of 12 songs on RevRad are good? Then why the fuck are you always complaining about it.

Also, 2 decent songs on 21CB? Yeah you're broken

Because it only has 6 good songs. That's only 50% and the other 50% is horrible. 

[Christian's Inferno!]

36 minutes ago, Insomniac186 said:

21CBD's tracks are mostly self-plagiarism. Recycled riffs and melodies from previous material. They even admitted it. Rev Rad has a lot of Green Day "cliches" but no glaringly obvious self-plagiarism that drove me crazy on 21CBD. Plus 21CBD is a little too serious and dramatic for my taste. Just my opinion.

When and where did they admit that?

[Insomniac186]

1 minute ago, MysticManiac said:

When are where did they admit that?

There was an interview they did where Mike said something like the album is the most "Green Day influenced" album they've ever done and Billie Joe said there were some melodies and things from pervious albums that they felt they could do better and tried them again on 21CBD. The chorus on "Static Age" is the same melody as "Church on Sunday", for example.

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

39 minutes ago, Insomniac186 said:

21CBD's tracks are mostly self-plagiarism. Recycled riffs and melodies from previous material. They even admitted it. Rev Rad has a lot of Green Day "cliches" but no glaringly obvious self-plagiarism that drove me crazy on 21CBD. Plus 21CBD is a little too serious and dramatic for my taste. Just my opinion.

Could you please give some examples? I can't think of any right now. 

[GugsGreenDay]

21st Century Breakdown is the second best album!!! American Idiot the best!

5 hours ago, Steven Seagull said:

Trilogy

Why are you people acting like these 3 albums never happened? They are superior to both 21st Century Shitshow and RevRad

You so fucking wrong wowwww

[Asik]

10 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

Could you please give some examples? I can't think of any right now. 

The only one is american eulogy and deadbeat holiday

[CocaColaX]

34 minutes ago, unextraordinarygirl said:

Shhhhhhh don't feed the troll! 

I prefer RevRad hands down. It's just a better album. 21CB has some good songs on it but it's too long and I get tired of it by the end. I can't listen to it over and over like I can with other GD albums. 

I would say the opposite, I like that it's long, in a way I feel that may be my main 'complaint' about revrad, is that's it's too short.

2 minutes ago, GugsGreenDay said:

21st Century Breakdown is the second best album!!! American Idiot the best!

Totally agree with this statement. The only song on 21CB, that lets it down is Last Night On Earth - I just find it boring for a Green Day song, it's a nice song, he sings it well, but it's just boring.  That's where the difference on RevRad is - there's definately no boring songs on it (well maybe Ordinary World, just a wee bit though).  

[DanPak]

Revrad is a bit like 21st Century Breakdown's slightly simple, yet very good natured and loveable little cousin.

[Dakke]

21st Century Breakdown is lyrically their greatest achievement, but it lacked the focus of American Idiot. I like most songs on 21CB, except for Murder City. The title track is just about the most epic title track they've ever made. East Jesus Nowhere is great, Static Age is underrated and Peacemaker is also insanely good. In general, it was the best album of 2009, which was affected by both the boost and the misfortune provided by AI's success.

Revolution Radio is a great record in its own right (Forever Now, Somewhere Now, Bang Bang and Say Goodbye just have such dynamic vocals) and I love them equally. They are both representations of the era they were written and recorded in and what the band has been through. 21CB is the pinnacle of a band at the apex of its popularity, whilst RevRad is the third coming of a band that has been through many hardships throughout the years, producing and releasing an album in an era of fear and uncertainty, not knowing whether they would still be remarked in a hip hop-infused alternative dominated music landscape. It's on the surface a deceptively simple album that blends the best of Nimrod and 21CB whilst achieving the original intentions of the Trilogy. Is it better than 21CB? No. But, in my humble opinion, RevRad is the greater achievement because they had to climb out of the cravasse, slaying their demons along the way whilst we were uncertain in 2013 whether we'd ever hear a fresh, strong Green Day album again. In brief, both are children of the past and era they were conceived in and that makes them on a certain emotional and semantical level uncomparable.

21st Century Breakdown is lyrically their greatest achievement, but it lacked the focus of American Idiot. I like most songs on 21CB, except for Murder City. The title track is just about the most epic title track they've ever made. East Jesus Nowhere is great, Static Age is underrated and Peacemaker is also insanely good. In general, it was the best album of 2009, which was affected by both the boost and the misfortune provided by AI's success.

Revolution Radio is a great record in its own right (Forever Now, Somewhere Now, Bang Bang and Say Goodbye just have such dynamic vocals) and I love them equally. They are both representations of the era they were written and recorded in and what the band has been through. 21CB is the pinnacle of a band at the apex of its popularity, whilst RevRad is the third coming of a band that has been through many hardships throughout the years, producing and releasing an album in an era of fear and uncertainty, not knowing whether they would still be remarked in a hip hop-infused alternative dominated music landscape. It's on the surface a deceptively simple album that blends the best of Nimrod and 21CB whilst achieving the original intentions of the Trilogy. Is it better than 21CB? No. But, in my humble opinion, RevRad is the greater achievement because they had to climb out of the cravasse, slaying their demons along the way whilst we were uncertain in 2013 whether we'd ever hear a fresh, strong Green Day album again. In brief, both are children of the past and era they were conceived in and that makes them on a certain emotional and semantical level uncomparable.

[stories and songs]

28 minutes ago, Dakke said:

But, in my humble opinion, RevRad is the greater achievement because they had to climb out of the cravasse, slaying their demons along the way whilst we were uncertain in 2013 whether we'd ever hear a fresh, strong Green Day album again.

That was so stunningly written, but this part in particular put into words how I feel about RevRad. Objectively, 21CB is my favorite album. I love that album, and after 7 years I haven't tired of listening to it on a fairly regular basis. The lyrics are brilliant, and I just love how the stretched themselves musically. That's honestly the perfect album to me. 

But emotionally? RevRad really gets under my skin, and I have trouble separating how I feel about it from how I view it objectively. It has only been out a week and it just means so much to me. My pride in this band and how much they had to fight to get back to us completely overwhelms me, especially when I think back to how I felt a few years ago. This era is something new—it's fresh, and it's better. It's like we all took some time off from each other, went through some things, did some growing up, and this is the result of coming back together again. It's very special for just existing, and even though I completely understand that's not a logical way to critique an album, that's really how I feel. 

[norcalgreendayfan]

1 hour ago, Steven Seagull said:

I had to listen to some of these just to remind myself why they are so bad. 21st CB must be the softest GD album ever. The only two I liked were 21 guns and the one with Mike singing. (yeah I don't even remember the title)

 

Because it only has 6 good songs. That's only 50% and the other 50% is horrible. 

21st Century Breakdown a soft album. You can't be serious. I know you are a troll and love to stir people up but come on.

[Steven Seagull]

Just now, norcalgreendayfan said:

21st Century Breakdown a soft album. You can't be serious. I know you are a troll and love to stir people up but come on.

Compared to Kerplunk, Dookie, Insomniac... Yeah it's a soft album. 

[norcalgreendayfan]

4 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said:

Compared to Kerplunk, Dookie, Insomniac... Yeah it's a soft album. 

You are Sorrily underrating a great album

[Dakke]

2 minutes ago, stories and songs said:

That was so stunningly written, but this part in particular put into words how I feel about RevRad. Objectively, 21CB is my favorite album. I love that album, and after 7 years haven't tired of listening to it on a fairly regular basis. The lyrics are brilliant, and I just love how the stretched themselves musically. That's honestly the perfect album to me. 

But emotionally? RevRad really gets under my skin, and I have trouble separating how I feel about it from how I view it objectively. It has only been out a week and it just means so much to me. My pride in this band and how much they had to fight to get back to us completely overwhelms me, especially when I think back to how I felt a few years ago. This era is something new—it's fresh, and it's better. It's like we all took some time off from each other, went through some things, did some growing up, and this is the result of coming back together again. It's very special for just existing, and even though I completely understand that's not a logical way to critique an album, that's really how I feel. 

Same feeling. It's not desperation that drives me to passionately like this album, it's about the theme of retrieving yourself amidst the madness of the epoch we live in. That's what RevRad is about and that's what makes me love this album so much. Simple yet oh so relatable lines like 'If this is what you call the good life/I want a better way to die" and "Hallelujah I found my soul under the sofa pillows" just mean so much. RevRad is not what I expected from them in most ways, yet it's the sole record they could make me fall in love with them again. 21CB is an album for the eras, but RevRad is distinctly them. It's them watching the dark of the post-21CB world recede and embracing their new-found identity.

[21guns&novacaine]

Shit I didn't think I'd have a hard time answering this question... I love 21st CB. It's my favorite Green Day album, and RevRad is amazing, too. But just out of personal preference, and not because it's too 'soft' or 'repetitive' I think RevRad, as of right now. I love it a great deal.  

[moonflower93]

omg the people shitting on @Steven Seagull are ridiculous. RevRad only has like 3 good songs. Still Breathing is kind of garbage. so 21st for me is the vote 

[Haushinka!]

3 hours ago, Insomniac186 said:

21CBD's tracks are mostly self-plagiarism. Recycled riffs and melodies from previous material. They even admitted it. Rev Rad has a lot of Green Day "cliches" but no glaringly obvious self-plagiarism that drove me crazy on 21CBD. 

This person said my thoughts exactly! This is one of the few reasons why 21CB turns me off. It's understandable for a band to put out music that have traces of their older stuff (especially a band with a career as long as theirs), but some tracks are too similar for my taste. One of the most noticeable songs is Viva la Gloria (Little Girl). I can't listen to that track without hearing the bridge of Blood, Sex and Booze! There are other examples as well. I actually found a thread that I remember reading, and it includes the quote where Mike says the album was influenced by their previous work. The thread was made specifically to talk about the similarities on the album: http://www.greendaycommunity.org/topic/70105-21cb-song-similarities/?page=1

Obviously 21CB is loved and adored by a ton of Green Day fans. There's no question it was a success. However, for multiple reasons it just never resonated with me.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

21CB is my go to album - still prefer it over revrad. 

[JardyOfSuburbia]

3 hours ago, Steven Seagull said:

I had to listen to some of these just to remind myself why they are so bad. 21st CB must be the softest GD album ever. The only two I liked were 21 guns and the one with Mike singing. (yeah I don't even remember the title)

Meh. To each their own. I like the fact that we can debate over albums because each one is different.

[Met Fan]

A tie.

21stCB was a very ambitious record, a better-than-expected follow-up to AI, it loses focus half way through and fails as a concept album but is musically packed with great melodies and it's definitely sonically superior to RevRad.

Even though RevRad is not a concept album; it maintains an impressive focus on three themes throughout the album and that makes more of a solid entity than 21stCB, but it's not as ambitious as 21stCB, it feels way under-crafted and raw, which is not always a virtue, especially with Green Day.