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The people saying it are calling out Islam based censorship/"morality" laws. Literally nobody is claiming it has nothing to do with Islam. But there's a big difference between people in a country being Muslim and a country enforcing oppressive laws based on Islam/religion or based on anything for that matter. The issue here isn't the religion itself but the way it is legally enforced in this particular country.5 points
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This is about Green Day playing the country, not about attacking an entire religion. People personally practicing a religion has nothing to do with the topic, the only relevant part is the laws that relate to this Green Day show. I think religion sucks as a concept lol, but that doesn't mean everyone who practices religion sucks and should be attacked for it. If the issue was people in the country being religious/conservative then there'd be calls for them not to play half the US too - the difference between a religiously conservative US state and this religiously conservative country is laws, not what religion it is. The specific issue here is religion (and censorship of government critical views) being legally enforced by a government which creates human rights issues. But there's nothing Green Day can do about that, so the even more specific issue that relates to this show being discussed is just whether it's right for them to play a show in this country. It isn't a discussion about the entirety of Islam/organised religion lmao.3 points
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On this day 7 years ago (10 May 2017), Green Day played in Sydney, Australia on the RevRad Tour. More photos: I'm just going to keep saying that I can't believe that tour was seven years ago, because what the fuck? When did that happen? Don't talk to me about how long it's been since the 99 Revolutions Tour. 19 years ago (2005), they played in Peoria, IL on the American Idiot Tour. 22 years ago (2002), they played in Selma, TX on the Pop Disaster Tour. 26 years ago (1998), they played in Schenectady, NY on the Nimrod Tour. And 32 years ago (1992), they played in Edmonton, Canada on the Kerplunk Tour. I admit I forgot yesterday. Thanks Rumpel.2 points
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Here you go! And according to a Google Lens result, it was after the 1st Coney Island show, so May 22, 2018.1 point
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I'm looking for a photo of Billie backstage after a show on the Longshot tour. He's shirtless and sticking his tongue out. Yes, I am unashamedly using thirst traps to get people to look at my On This Day thing. That does mean I also need to know what show it was from though, so if you know, please share your knowledge and the photo!1 point
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I think if they legally weren't allowed to say something about that on stage if they wanted in Texas or Florida that would apply. That's the difference to me, if it directly affects the artist's performance. Nobody's doing any of the things you're accusing them of. Nobody has even brought up let alone called out Christianity, the only thing that's been called out is UAE's Islamic based laws. Boycotting a country because a lot of people in the country follow a particular religion would be stupid and bigoted. I don't think anyone's even calling for a boycott anyway, just questioning the decision to play (and contibute to the economy of) a country with some major human rights issues that conflict with the band's message/songs, and where their show will be subject to censorship laws.1 point
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Missing my point completely. You can't act all righteous & make out that they should boycott the show, when you yourself won't speak out against the religion which rules the area. You'll stand there and call out Christianity & how bad you think it is, but you won't do the same about the most oppressive, far right religion, currently out there. These countries are the way they are, because they put their religion at the forefront of everything. What it says in their holy book, is what they are governed by. 'Attacking people' ? what exactly do you think you're doing when you call out other religions? You don't think that you're attacking somebody when you call out Christianity? Laughable really. Green Day can play wherever the hell they want, but i'm still against islamic laws & the religion itself because it opposes everything that I stand for. But i'm happy to call the religion for what it is. And I ain't gonna stand here & call for half assed boycotts like some on here. If you're gonna do it, do it properly....1 point
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I still think by that logic they shouldn’t play Texas or Florida because of the laws violating the human rights of pregnant people.1 point
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Ah Godwin's law there. many religions have elements that are now not socially acceptable to western philosophy. There is also many different strands of the same religion. Lumping them all together ignores that. The Christian fundamentalists are completely different to many other Christian groups. Not everything the fundamentalists do such as the harassing people getting abortains means that other Christian’s agree with that. In the same way that there are many Muslims who are fine with queer people.1 point
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Hope they do! Since they're playing countries they've never even played before seems like a decent chance. I guess the last time they did a proper Asia tour was 21st CB? They're due for one.1 point
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On this day 7 years ago (8 May 2017), Green Day played in Brisbane, Australia on the RevRad Tour. More photos (all by Dana Hope) 26 years ago (8 May 1998), Green Day appeared on MTV. Interviewer: Are you doing anything for Mother's Day? I just FedEx'd my mom my card. Tre: Me too. FedEx'd your mom. If you want to find out how Tre got his mouth taped shut, you can watch the show on YouTube. Billie also played Good Riddance on the Howard Stern Show that day.1 point
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Wow yeah this is it. It's not just that the country/government does bad things, every country/government does. It's that they'll be altering and censoring their own show as a result. Considering the Pansy Division thing it really does seem wrong for them to play a venue where a queer act like that would not only not be welcome but likely to be arrested or worse, and to play a show where they can't freely include any song/part of their usual show. Idk how they can play songs about standing against authority when their setlist/show content will have been limited by censorship laws. It's really nothing of any consequence to anything except the band's reputation and fanbase (whether they play UAE or not won't affect the country or human rights there). But it's lame.1 point
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On this day 6 years ago (7 May 2018), The Longshot played the Hi-Hat in LA. 15 years ago (7 May 2009), Green Day played a small show in Berlin to promote 21st Century Breakdown. I had a bootleg DVD of this show. Used to watch it after school all the time. More photos: 19 years ago (7 May 2005), they played in Grand Rapdis, MI, on the American Idiot Tour. 22 years ago (7 May 2002), they played Bonner Springs, KS on the Pop Disaster Tour. 26 years ago (7 May 1998), Billie performed Good Riddance on Letterman. "When we have them on the show, the drummer runs around and hurts himself. Will you do that tonight?" – David Letterman1 point
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This is admittedly a tricky matter, given how there are various degrees to this. They also played in Thailand and Venezuela in 2010, both authoritarian regimes at the time with a variety of human rights violations and press censorship to boast. In fact, if we go down that rabbit hole, the whole of South America is a bit tricky on that front. It's not just sun, cocktails and party beaches down there. Just look at abortion rights, political/gang violence, corruption etc. etc. I still think playing in South America is on the whole justified, but it's hard to decide where to draw the line. Granted, the state of the UAE is a particularly vile example of flagrant human rights violations, right up there with the likes of Saudi Arabia and Qatar (boo FIFA). It's unthinkable that we should still have countries in 2024 that allow for public executions, merely for one's sexuality, sometimes even by stoning, but here we are... I suppose the only worse optics the band could have achieved is by playing in Israel or Russia right now. But I agree, as a headline this makes me squirm, if nothing else. In general I'm honestly quite disgusted by how both oil-state airlines and Dubai are seemingly successfully marketing themselves to western holiday-goers. Under the glossy facade they're still horribly repressive and unequal regimes with few to no minority rights. Not to mention the absurdity of having a city with skyscrapers, huge swimming pools, artificial beaches and even an indoor skiing resort, erected in the middle of the Arabian desert, an area otherwise plagued by severe poverty, famine and drought. The old fishing village is actually quite interesting and has some history, but all the flashy bits built around it over the years, to attract business and tourists feel vapid and soulless, almost like a disneyland capitalist fever dream.1 point