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^^congratulations on being such a well read historian, but could you please move the war talk somewhere fucking else and let us others enjoy the hype for our favorite band's new album? Thanks.

Let’s stay on topic guys!!!! Just one week to go from Tuesday!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone who says The teaser and OEB sounds similar, needs to dissect their eardrums

Not gonna happen, but god how I want to hear 21st Century Breakdown (the song) live again. It's a shame, because I have a gut feeling it might fit in quite well with the next album and tour, thematically. While interesting, please move this discussion to a different thread. Also, on a side note: don't just assume what other GDC members' beliefs are in bad faith . Your beliefs are your own and that's it. A big part of why there is violent conflict in this world, besides genuine grievances, is because of people jumping to conclusion about what "the other side" thinks, believes or "really" wants. When people sit down and talk, they tend to discover that they were not in fact capable of reading thoughts (surprise surprise) and that it may not be what they thought. To give you an example: you might think, based on what I just wrote that I disagree with your stance, but I don't, actually.

Well, I think with better production (and mixing), I would likely have been more fond of RevRad and the trilogy for that matter. And besides the overall sound, which really falls flat on RevRad in my opinion, by good production I also just mean better executive decisions. Whether it's to cut certain songs (looking at you Ordinary World) or to reorganise the song-structure in a more coherent way, good production matters. For the trilogy, the obvious missed choice would have been for it to, well, not be a trilogy. I think Somewhere Now and Forever Now are two of the best songs they've written since 21CB, but the crowded and clumsy production is frustrating and there's no alternative live versions or mixes to listen to, which is a great shame. I guess this is why I'm so optimistic about album 14. Thing is, with the right guitar/amp sound (the beefy plexi) and Cavallo's trademark big-but-not-too-polished-production, both of which seem to be set for a comeback on this record, there's not really much that can go wrong for me. If it sounds like Green Day**, I'm in. Does not matter if it's Dookie or Nimrod, Insomniac or Warning, 21CB or American idiot, Suffocate or Shoplifter, Governator or Maria. **

I don't like to get too crazy with my theories.

Hey, shut the fuck up this is a Green Day thread.

I’m trying so hard not to get over-pumped over this release, but I just have this strange gut feeling that I know others are having too. All the secrecy around it has been feeding that feeling in the last couple of years. I’m fucking ready!

This new record will be like 21cb, similar to RevRad too.

They also have that extra show in Vegas this week before the festival!!!

Yes and maybe we get more inforomation during their shows this week 😊 But hope no recordings for American Dream will be released before tuesday. I just want the whole experience on tuesday with you with studio quality. Interesting which songs they will play. I‘m sure they change the Hella Mega Setlist

Totally understand, however I have studied this conflict for many of years and it’s very easy for people to get swept up in what seems ‘the right side’ and tagging along with that to also be seen as the good guy. For Israelis, they’re happy to live side by side, as two states, but it’s hard when the other state wants you eradicated off the face of the earth. When babies are being beheaded for being Jewish, there’s no going back from that.

Im mainly here cause of my fetishes

My guess the guys just wanted a little more time to get mentally prepared for another album launch, promotion, merch, tour, etc...

The drums in the American Dream teaser already sound epic!!!!

Do you actually enjoy being here? It seems you’re always angry.

So do we think they’ll announce the secret Vegas show tomorrow? Guessing by their post it will be Thursday

Someone in the GreenDay.fm forum said they were watching the 1981 performance again and noticed the lyric, "You've got one foot in the grave", so maybe there is a connection to a zombie storyline after all!!!! I was also searching online to find a connection between zombies and the year 1981 and I found this movie, Night of the Zombies!! https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082815/

I hope billie sounds good I don't mind some reverb effects to strengthen his vocals, but no ai or autotuning to the point it doesn't resemble his natural voice

Well...this page got fun Edit: Damn...talk about an untimely new page-start

The last legislative election in Palestine which was in 2006 only had Hamas winning by 3% of the vote. I'm not going to pretend I know what's going on over there today but that doesn't seem like overwhelming support (or functional democracy since the last election was over 15 years ago). And even if there is overwhelming support for Hamas from the Palestinian people, that doesn't mean the Palestine people & Hamas can be seen as equivalent. Let's not pretend that the violence is completely one-sided while the other side is completely in the right.

To be fair, we don’t know that for sure just yet. For all we know, they probably just added to what they originally had

Religion breeds violence these people are killing in the name of a god they don't even know exist or not, same here in america with Christianity especially the right wing hypocrites who worship an orange blob of shit who's more demonic than anything else trump is the closest thing we will ever see to hitler whenever he's convicted get ready to see our own homegrown terrorist strikes here in the United States it's coming

This whole situation in recent years has a lot of similarities with the situation from 20 years ago: - Warning - didn't get the best reviews and generally was considered a weird era for the band, same goes for Father of All - they did Pop Disaster tour with Blink and couple of other bands; they did the Hella Mega tour with Weezer and Fall Out Boy - both serving basically the same cause - a greatest hits tour to prove they're still the best and relevant and to raise some bucks - The Network records - just doing something for fun before the big explosion - American Idiot - well, we know what happened after that I'm really not superstitious, but it would be really cool if they would manage to pull of a third ''comeback'' and take on the world one more time (whatever that would mean in today's time of streaming, trap beats on every corner, bizarre Taylor Swift mania and pretty much no real rock bands with balls getting recognized on a global scale. I won't even mention the Grammys).

I enjoy all this speculating, but I in in all these 629 pages, we have no idea what this album is going to be like. And that's a good thing. Like someone said about the secret shows, Green Day still do numbers. They could surprise drop Album 14. And maybe the Amercian Dream isn't part of it. No zombie video. No music that they have teased. Just blowe, Brand new Green Day album with 13 songs!

I love how Green Day can announce a concert date the week of (secret Vegas show) and be 100% certain they’ll sell it out in a matter of minutes lol

“My name is no one a long lost son…”

BTW ai technology I would be happy with American idiot style vocals lol

Next Tuesday, what time do you think the song will be out? From what I remember, I think FOAM was released around noon, right?

"You can't always get what you want" opps wrong band!

IIRC the last time they intended to play 21CB live was 10 years ago at Dreamforce. We all know that things got a bit messy at this show. 🌧️

Because they want the end of Israel, that's well documented. And they want to 'exterminate' the jews. They did behead babies, there's been a massive media blackout on this because of how distressing it is and how abhorrent it was. IDF soldiers found the babies, somewhere on the deep dark web the photos / evidence will be floating around, but these haven't been published worldwide because, rightfully, people don't want to see it, let alone acknowledge it happening. I can guarantee i'm a lot more studied in this than you are. So just for you, i'll do a run down of some facts. Judaism is one of the oldest religions on the planet, Israel as we now know it, is where the jews lived, there's debates as to what the country was called back 1000s of years ago, some say it was called Palestine, some have other ideas. Either way, the jews have always been there. Once Islam came along, the arabs started a violent siege, westwards, Israel being one of the first places to come under the siege, where the arabs / muslims at the time, wanted to eradicate any non-believers standing in their way. This is one of the earliest documented times, of the conflict starting. If you look up the history of the Ottoman Empire, you will see and learn about this and how far back the pursuit of 'exterminating non-believers' goes. So there's been conflict between the jews & muslims for 1000s of years, mainly the jews just wanting to live & the muslims not allowing that. (It's in the Koran, there's no debating that there's a negative look at jews in the 'holy book'. Something a lot of people choose to ignore). Fast forward to WW2 where millions of jews were killed & displaced, the UN came to an agreement that any displaced jews would be resettled in Israel. Israel has always been the holy land of the jews, hence Jerusalem. The same as the muslims having mecca. The only people to push back against these jews coming to Israel were the arabs, who have voted against peaceful resolutions put forward by the UN, every time. So there's always been an underlying theme of dislike & hatred towards the jews from the arab / muslim communities... Anyway, this has gone on and on and on, the difference is, it started to get to the point where Israel had to fight back & because Israel is backed by the 'West', it has much stronger military capabilities. People will show you stats of the death tolls of palestinians compared to the Israelis. Israel has the iron dome, which is an anti-missile defence system, which shoots down a large portion of rockets that get fired over the border, obviously with the aim of killing israelis / jews. So after a few times of this happening, Israel fight back, but their rockets are much more successful at hitting its targets. What hamas has done is created a huge underground tunnel network, they operate from schools, hospitals, residential streets, etc etc. Usually hamas fires rockets from these places, when Israel responds, they send out a warning, letting civilians know, to leave said hospitals, schools, etc, but the palestinians don't want to leave, these people then get killed & it's more propaganda for hamas & other arabs to say 'look at how bad israel is, look at how bad the west is'. Another thing to note, the palestinians vote for Hamas, who aren't shy in their political mantra of wanting the extermination of jews & the end of Israel, period. I'd like to think that there are palestinian people who aren't in favour of hamas, but we'll never truly know. As for Israel, MANY arabs live in Israel, it's also the safest place in the middle east for gay people. You can be gay there without fear of having your head chopped off. It has one of the most liberal supreme courts in the world. There's freedom of press, equality for women... The list goes on. The idea of a one state solution is such a lazy and stupid notion. Why should Israelis relinquish a democracy that is capable of putting a former prime minister in jail for corruption ? Why should they allow people who support sharia law to have jurisdiction over one of the most liberal supreme court's in the world ? Why should Tel Aviv, one of the most gay friendly cities on earth be subjected to moral standards of the 7th century ? Their cultures are polar opposite that there can never be a one state solution. So remember when you're trying to look cool on social media & virtue signalling so that you get scene points. One side wants the extermination of jews & it will do so by any means necessary, the other just wants to live like you and I do, for the most part, able to express ourselves & chase our dreams & be whoever the fuck that we want to be. The one side hosts music festivals where you can dress however you feel that you want to, where you can dance with your friends, sing & laugh until the sun comes up, the other doesn't want that. I know which side i'm on.... x PEACE

No babies were beheaded. Happy to discuss this in another thread but why did Hamas attack Israel in the first place ?

The people of Palestine wholeheartedly support Hamas, do some research. They’ve been voted into power overwhelmingly, again and again. When I see idiots gesturing their support as ‘free Palestine’, I ask, what does that mean? Because to the majority of Palestinians it means the end of Israel and the death of every Jew living there… So you support Nazism? … 🤷🏻‍♂️🙃

I just heard one more time the teaser today and then jump into OEB and I DON’T KNOW GUYS BUUUT 👀👀

Any insight as to why the promotion / release was held off for so long? 🤔🤔

I can’t tell if you’re speaking about Palestine or Hamas but I hope you’d only say that about the latter.

You are outted just shortly after I was. Let's hope Tre can hold out longer than either of us.

I agree they really leveled up with Kill the Dj. It’s such a cool song. I love Rusty James. The solo is so heartfelt, nostalgic and sad. I wish they had kept the title “Last Gang In Town” tho.

Dude album 14 how about 14 tracks?

Change? Setlist? That would be the biggest shake up of all time! I hope they cover either the Skids or the The Network. Imagine a Popper Punk / The Saints are Coming medley instead of KISS.

....anyway. I dreamed about GDC last night. This is on topic because American Dreams are hurting Billie, he and I both woke up and while are a bit jumbled, I am fairly certain it was this thread. And then reality is weirder than my Dude-dreams. (I redacted a question about what is going on above because a character from Game of Thrones might warn me for simply asking about a political debate, 😄) I have always wanted and speculated a music video where Billie is attached to a spinning wheel and someone is throwing knifes at him. Maybe with some Idiot slimes spraying out of the wheel. Could this be the era one of ideas comes true? Also, I can't keep up with all my tracklists so I don't know if I ever got one right.

Bummer I really liked the guitar riffs on Clip 9

Lukie has been showing his ass since September 28, 2012

Nice! Now I’m your friend like other people on here and know you intimately and can brag about it!

I did an outreach event at an elementary school yesterday night on behalf of my university's entomology department where I let kids meet, learn about, and handle live arthropods. We brought our Madagascar hissing roaches, Vietnamese stick insects, black widow, baby emperor scorpion, tailless whip-scorpion (her name is Taylor Swift because people often think we are saying "Taylor Swift scorpion" when we say "tailless whip-scorpion"), and my personal favorite, our tarantula named Curly Sue. We did not let children handle the widow, emperor, tarantula (she's a sweet baby, so it was more for her safety because if she were to be dropped she would die. They could pet her, though.), or the whip-scorpion (only because she gets scared easily and runs very fast. She's literally harmless). Now that you have context, you know you're a Green Day fan when you come home and wonder about how the Green Day boys would react to these critters. I know Mike has at least posted pictures of a tarantula in his yard before, but I don't know if he's actually a fan of them. No idea about Billie or Tré. Would they be comfortable petting Curly Sue or holding a hissing roach?

Just throwing another prediction out there, but I don’t think any of the zombie/horror themes are in any way related to Halloween and instead will have more to do with the title “The American Dream Is Killing Me” with allusions to how modern America feels like some sort of waking nightmare, hence the zombies/general visuals we’ve seen thus far. If that ends up being true, color me doubly excited as this would increase the likelihood that we might be looking at another political record, or at the very least a record with some of that in it. Also yeah, the sound of the production from the clips we’ve heard so far are very promising! I love how full and big everything sounds so far

Kill the DJ and Angel Blue.