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The American Eulogy line is controversial among fans due to the belief some people have that it isn't justified for a slur to be said by a person it hasn't been used against whatever the context. The same thing doesn't apply to Holiday. Billie Joe is openly bisexual and the f word is his to reclaim. So it's a different thing. In general it isn't considered a problem for members of an oppressed group to reclaim slurs that are used against them, including in song lyrics. If we're talking about people totally misinterpreting the song and not understanding that the line isn't literal then that's another thing. Shouldn't be a reason to censor it since half the lyrics could be misinterpreted if they were taken literally (eg "sieg heil!").

I strongly believe that song lyrics should never be changed. They are just words and only hold as much power as people are willing to give them. Some songs should be lost to history and probably forgotten, sure... but only ones that come from a place of hatred or actual malicious intent. No Green Day song even comes remotely close to this, in fact any of the songs with "controversial lines" that the band has written have only come from a place of positivity and desire for betterment. In short, don't make a big deal out of words, especially those that come from a place of positive intent. If people are too ignorant to be able to tell what the lines actually mean, then it's no ones fault but their own and no band should ever have to change anything about them to cater to those people.

Hi all, just a friendly reminder to keep things on track here. I know that's hard when there's literally nothing to talk about most days in terms of actual updates, but hopefully that'll change soon! 🤞

How has this thread been so quiet! Has nobody seen the new Oakland Coffee posts or am I the only one who thinks Billie looks amazing!? I know we aren’t seeing a lot of his hair but blimey he looks good!

Not posted in here for a while so here's some random Billie photos

Of 2025

bigger fish to fry

There are people out there saying actual hateful things and meaning them and those are the ones we should be focused on and concerned about. Direct your energies to stopping that.

We’re like herding cats! 🐈

OH MY GOD ANOTHER CREEPER FAN!!!!

I think the line "it's not a way that's meant for me" makes clear that the previous lines of the bridge are from the perspective of people who get criticized by the song. And I personally think that the first line of the bridge could be as problematic, especially in Europe, but since there is literally no backlash I think that also in this case it is clear that this is not the opinion of the band.

He doesn't realise that starting a new account isn't going to make us forget all the times he's tried fooling us into thinking he's found something rare when he hasn't! https://www.greendaycommunity.org/profile/85298-banjodewulf2247

This has the potential to be that single. I can just picture a big lush string section joining in with Billie's guitar

Green Day should do an acoustic single with strings again.

There are a few songs with lines that Billie Joe may or may not want back. One of them, American Eulogy, seems to have unfortunately died with the 21CB tour. As far as I know, it hasn't been played since the first show of the South American leg. Its dropping of an n-bomb seems to be confined to history more because the song wasn't exactly a hit than any other reason. The other song that might be a problem going forward is Holiday. It's pretty easily Green Day's most venomous song. The line in question, "Kill all the f..s who don't agree," doesn't exactly hit the same way in a society where homophobia is damn near encouraged by the country's leaders, and where the response to Club Q has consisted of a lot of, "So some gays died? So what? They won't be grooming my kids anymore." Is that line now problematic enough to say something else during the breakdown, or just drop the song entirely? As a counterpoint, My Chemical Romance continued playing Teenagers every night after Uvalde, so there's that. Also also, can he change the line to, "Kill off the fucking GOP"?

In 2025, I hope we're at least starting early speculation about a possible ALBUM 15. We can start right now, right here if the mod's would allow it. 1972 - Where are you? We need some help from you now!

I think we could have a single by February, and the album in April

Working on narrowing down pics for next year's calendar, and this pic popped up just as Blood, Sex, and Booze came on. That's all.

I second that.

Damn right 🥰

Fucking beautiful man?

I mean...that whole part of the song is clearly sarcastic, even noted by the announcement of who is speaking as well as the different pace and vocal filter. I think anyone who actually listens and has any comprehension skills can tell that the word isn't being used in a homophobic way. Billie is using that part of the song to portray the extremism that reacts from tragedy and the way people cut out anyone who disagrees with them. Holiday is one of his best songs, especially lyrically, and neutering it would take away from its value.

This song is played everytime for past twenty years I'm sure they'll take it out now. Obv you don't understand the song. Also they don't play American eulogy anymore cuz you know they don't play any breakdown songs hardly except 21 guns and know your enemy.This is the type of post that makes me miss the pre 2016 days of this board

Gimme danger little stranger But 1972 will be releasing in 1972 days so it will be after 2023

Haha, I just saw the Oakland Coffee posts and came straight here to see if any fan girls were fangirling!

Nice Guy Finish Last now have a time duration on Apple Music. Maybe the next release?

Just for context , Green Day’s music is enjoyed in many countries that don't have leaders that encourage homophobia .

Oh my god fellow creeper cult member spotted

From Green Day’s Instagram story

New photos of Green Day from Oakland Coffee https://www.instagram.com/p/ClU1BIcJAVd/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

No no no, the real hints are coming from Oakland Coffee. The new album will be called Gracias, Gold Hill.

For purely selfish reasons I would love it if they did a tour with Creeper.

The Network.

I’d love to see The Struts do it. Their guitar player Adam is a huge Green Day fan and was at the last Coverups show