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Really? I don't think you've ever mentioned this before

I really think that 21st Century Breakdown is a fantastic album...

Yeah . Seriously though I hope people don't really let other's opinions spoil their enjoyment of songs/albums too much. If you're lucky enough to like a song and someone else isn't you're the winner in that situation and they're the loser since you get to enjoy a song and they don't! So just enjoy it. I get what your saying, although I think it was more about the whole band being pretty scruffy and unhealthy all round rather than just Billie's weight (he was only a bit chubby anyway). The band themselves have talked about it, Billie saying how during Nimrod/Warning he was drunk all the time and in his "fat Elvis period", and Mike using the same phrase to describe the whole band and saying they all looked like shit and had lost motivation. And Billie mentioned the reason for the image change being wanting to "look like a fucking man for once". I think getting more in shape and looking sharp with AI came from the band members becoming more energized and motivated etc at that time, and just maturing, as well as it fitting with the music.

My unpopular opinion: The trilogy isn't as bad as people say it is. It's not Green Days best by any means, but I think people hate on it too much. I think people were expecting another Dookie or AI, and obviously the albums fell short. I don't hate Uno, Dos, or Tre, but they aren't my favorite either. They aren't my favorite becuase I feel like they tried to shove different styles of music down my throat, and the songs don't sound connected due to all the experimentation. Maybe people hate it so much because of that, but I don't think that's a reason to DESPISE it...

Warning is their best album and I'll defend that statement untill my days come to their very end

Oh no he didn't.

Ah, the good old "official member" debate.

I kind of agree. I respect him as a musician and person, but I will never think of him as an official member. Sorry Jason.

This is not new, but it has a meaning to me. Around 3:00 Jerry Only says he thinks Green Day is a great band, along with Rancid, and also around 6:30 he's naming them one of the biggest bands in the world

yeah i've never really understood why everyone freaks out over AI so much. Wake me up when september ends is great but it's by far my least favorite gd album and always has been oops

Fair, but he may pull off being fat better than Billie can Is that a thing? Being able to pull of being fat? It is now

Yeah I firmly believed it was a fact. Yeah a lot has to do with that. Just not many songs that have anything to say, really.

98% of the problem with the trilogy is the lyrics for me.

Damn I was about to call you Seagull... I thought it was seagull did he hack your account? Can you check to see if Seagull hacked his account or if Seagull and Lukie are the same person...

Same here!

I think the "future genaration" of fans will judge the Trilogy differently than we do now. The whole situation is analogical to Warning - disappointed fans used to bash the album back then almost as much as we bash the Trilogy now, but a lot of post-warning fans like the album. It's usually considered underrated, overlooked etc. A lot of people wonder why it was so unsuccessfull. Fans who weren't around in 2000 weren't affected with the atmosphere and the general bad mood - we didn't "see it" flop, I could listen to the album without prejudice from the first time, there was nobody to tell me how terrible it was. I think I'm not the only one who actually could enjoy Warning and make his own opinion about it thanks to the interval between the release of the album and the year we heard it for the first time. I think if I'd heard Warning when it came out I would have been disappointed. It's never been that new shitty album for me so I never needed to think about it from the same point of view as I do about the Trilogy. But if Warning was released in 2012 instead of the Trilogy I would be disappointed and most of us would hate on it as much as people did back then. Another reason why post-warning fans usually don't mind the album being different is that a lot of us already knew "what happened next" when we discovered Warning. We were sure Green Day weren't going to turn into a weird folkrockpunkpopreaggaecountry band and play pipes. Warning is an interesting piece in their catalogue, but it's much better when you are sure that American Idiot actually came out and Billie lost weight. Objectively, the Trilogy is much worse than Warning. No one can unhear the production, lyrics, tambourine, and tons of other faults, but I don't think it will be such a big deal in, say 2020. I doubt anyone will give a damn if the next album is decent. In context of their career it's not such a huge thing anyway. To be honest I doubt my friends who aren't Green Day fans even spotted they released an album in 2012.

You are a horrible person for missing the other eight.

It's only strengthened my defiant love for it

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"Hope there's more in your pants than a bus route" would be worse.

So weird 0.o

Wow that is pretty weird.

At the rollerskating rink for homeschool group stuff, someone turned on 21 Guns and I'm all like 'This is my jam, yo'

I heard Walking Contradiction in a bathroom. Also to add to that, when I first heard the song, I thought one of the lyrics was "I shit so deep you can't run away", I have no idea how someone could do that but none the less I started laughing in the bathroom and everyone started staring at me thinking I was crazy.

I heard Extraordinary Girl when I was walking by one of those trendy type stores. I think it was either Hollister or Abercrombie. It was kind of funny because then the next store was Hot Topic and they were also playing Green Day, only it was American Idiot.

In a hospital, it was American Idiot