02 - Bang Bang

[DeJennsitized]

I didn't mean to give the impression it was mocking the shooter - or any aspect of the situation. I'm just not particularly eloquent  It could have been a misunderstanding of what I meant by satire. it's a very multi-layered song - there is a mocking of the media aspect going on too and it's amazing how he portrayed that whilst staying in the shooter POV.

i know what the daddy/mommy line references. But that doesn't change how I think about it. It's still a sarcastic way for the shooter to think of himself.

Satire isn't strictly humour based. It's a bit like sarcasm. I hear a lot of that in the lyrics and didn't actually think that was up for debate. But hey, I guess anything is  

 

 

[unextraordinarygirl]

Bang Bang is number 1 on the  Billboard chart! That's excellent to hear!

[Sixtrix]

Why can't the shooter say "daddy's little psycho?" If he, for instance, got more support from his mother and his dad actually left because he couldn't handle his son's issues then I think this could be some sort of self-reflection, but in the way how his dad and his mom sees him. He doesn't think that of himself.

[DeJennsitized]

20 minutes ago, Sixtrix said:

Why can't the shooter say "daddy's little psycho?" If he, for instance, got more support from his mother and his dad actually left because he couldn't handle his son's issues then I think this could be some sort of self-reflection, but in the way how his dad and his mom sees him. He doesn't think that of himself.

I agree. I just think it's missing an "I'm" at the start of the line to make it flow better.

[Chin for a Day]

30 minutes ago, Sixtrix said:

Why can't the shooter say "daddy's little psycho?" If he, for instance, got more support from his mother and his dad actually left because he couldn't handle his son's issues then I think this could be some sort of self-reflection, but in the way how his dad and his mom sees him. He doesn't think that of himself.

It could be both.  But I agree, it is meant to portray some kind of self reflection.

[desertrose]

Green Day Harkens Back to Dookie Days, Remains Visually Pedestrian in “Bang Bang” Music Video

 

http://bcheights.com/arts-review/2016/green-day-harkens-back-to-dookie-days-remains-visually-pedestrian-in-bang-bang-music-video/

[Hermione]

3 hours ago, Sixtrix said:

Why can't the shooter say "daddy's little psycho?" If he, for instance, got more support from his mother and his dad actually left because he couldn't handle his son's issues then I think this could be some sort of self-reflection, but in the way how his dad and his mom sees him. He doesn't think that of himself.

It's the way it's put. It is from the shooter's point of view but he wouldn't be using cheeky, sarcastic phrases like "daddy's little psycho" or "give me death or give me head" or "I wanna start a rager!" to describe his motives, he'd make his justifications and describe himself with much more serious/emotional words. I think Billie expresses the shooter's motives through these sarcastic phrases in a way that exposes how irrational they are (without having to actually say it) while at the same time satirizing the way the media makes criminals famous. I don't think that takes away from the seriousness of the subject or the darkness of the song though, on the contrary these snappy phrases contrasted with the extremely dark subject matter only further highlight how dark it is. I agree that line is self reflection, but the way it's phrased adds another layer to it.

[Chin for a Day]

That would be true if he was using satire.

[Stefano Bras]

I stopped listening to Bang Bang like for a week or two and just now I've been relistening the song and wow, it is amazing.

After some live performances I can totally see this song being a Green Day classic.

[Joe K]

 

[doworkson123123]

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7494582/green-day-bang-bang-mainstream-rock-songs-no-1

[Sanity Loan]

22 minutes ago, doworkson123123 said:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7494582/green-day-bang-bang-mainstream-rock-songs-no-1

Yes

[unextraordinarygirl]

3 hours ago, Joe K said:

 

That's cool I like it! In my mind I was thinking "Yeah!! Go Mike Go!" 

Edited September 1, 2016 by Second favourite son
Please remove videos when quoting

[Second favourite son]

3 hours ago, Joe K said:

 

This is a cover, right?  Definitely doesn't sound like it's an edited version of the actual song.

[Liam]

19 minutes ago, Second favourite son said:

This is a cover, right?  Definitely doesn't sound like it's an edited version of the actual song.

Yeah it is. Read the YouTube description and it tells you what equipment he used Very good cover though.

[Z J]

On 8/31/2016 at 0:26 PM, JJ1964 said:

 Teh shooter would never mock himself, thus not satirical.  I think you need to re-read the definition.  

It can most definitely be satirical and in the first-person

On 8/31/2016 at 1:08 PM, JJ1964 said:

I have re-read the lyrics many times.  I will agree that that line is not first person, but again, it doesn't mean it is satirical.   I do believe saying it is satirical minimizes the effect of the song.  I understand what you are trying to say, but I think you are confusing satire with rhetoric.  

Satire is often a form of rhetoric and that only mitigates the impact if you think it does, I personally don't. 

On 8/31/2016 at 1:35 PM, Jenn123 said:

Isn't satire a form of rhetoric?

yes

On 8/31/2016 at 1:35 PM, Hermione said:

 I think it's satire about the entire situation, particularly the media's role in the issue.

It is!

[Bastard of 1967]

Looks like somebody finally got the fucking single order right. It's been a long, long time since we've seen the guys knock a home run like this. 

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7494582/green-day-bang-bang-mainstream-rock-songs-no-1

[Sanity Loan]

5 hours ago, Bastard of 1967 said:

Looks like somebody finally got the fucking single order right. It's been a long, long time since we've seen the guys knock a home run like this. 

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7494582/green-day-bang-bang-mainstream-rock-songs-no-1

Yep.

[Bastard of 1967]

2 hours ago, crock6000 said:

Bang Bang is #1?! Fuck yeah!

So god damn excited.

So it took a rip like Bang Bang to get your ass back on the board here too, eh?  Good to see you again!

[UNICORN VOMIT]

Well nobody cares but its playing  on my local station now.BANG BANG

[WhiteTim]

2 hours ago, Bastard of 1967 said:

So it took a rip like Bang Bang to get your ass back on the board here too, eh?  Good to see you again!

Yo! 

[amberwhite]

1 hour ago, Tinkle said:

Well nobody cares but its playing  on my local station now.BANG BANG

I heard it on my local station on Sunday!

[24HrRevengeTherapy]

Gotta say, this my favorite Green Day single in...what, 12 years?  That's how long ago "American Idiot" came out?!  Where the fuck does the time go?  

But yeah, sounds like a nice mix between oldschool Green Day and 21CB - can't complain about that.

Edited September 7, 2016 by 24HrRevengeTherapy

[Alan86]

Just saw the most recent post on GDA about Bang Bang still topping that billboard chart and another chart now too. I'm happy the song is doing so well. It'll get another boost when the official video is released.

I hope we get a live version soon too, either on a late night chat show or a pro shot from one of their first concerts.

[lizziebix]

Finally with the announcement of the Chicago show, the one station that played it on day one, is playing it regularly and I've gotten to hear on my way to and from work all this week.