tresexy101 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I didn't read any posts before me. But alcohol cleanses the palate. He needs to drink and be a punk. Chewing gum won't make his vocals make me see doves in the dreary days like the olden days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jonny Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I've been trying to stay sober but singing while drinking is soo much easier and alcohol certainly helps. Overtime however, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Jake69 said: That is far from true. Drinking a lot of alcohol makes you dehydrated. Which makes your mouth and throat incredibly dry. That is the absolute worst while singing. Yep. It also causes vocal cord constriction in excess. Also if the choice is between him sounding slightly less good, or getting hammered before going on stage every night, given that he's an alcoholic... It's no contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tresexy101 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 29 minutes ago, Jake69 said: That is far from true. Drinking a lot of alcohol makes you dehydrated. Which makes your mouth and throat incredibly dry. That is the absolute worst while singing. Tell Steve Tyler that from Aerosmith when he fucking rocks 'Dream On' . Ya idiot think he doesn't drink? Geesh. Besides, the evidence is Billie Joes' vocals - they ain't the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tresexy101 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jake69 said: Do really need to call me an idiot? Yes, Billie's vocals aren't very good right now but drinking alcohol isn't going to make it better. Alcohol made it that way. Also, as @Spike said, it's not worth Billie drinking again. Sorry for calling you an idiot. However, alcohol is a quick fix for cleansing the palate, hence, making the vocals better. In the long run, I agree, Billie drinking alcohol will not be good for his health, or anyone's health, for that matter. However, Green Day won't last in the 'long run' because, um, they are in their forties and it shows (Mike's arms are jacked, Tre still kicks ass at drums, Billies' vocals, oh, um...nevermind). Even Jesus turned water into wine. Can we agree to disagree? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcasm Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Nobody post Still Breathing on Ellen. was it really bad or did Ellen's inherently dis-likable audience ruin it? 4 minutes ago, Jake69 said: There is a thing called water which keeps the vocal chords healthy and also keeps you hydrated. And it also causes no health issues. UHUUUNNN ACTUALLY, STRIMMER IF YOU WERE TO CONSUME REALLY LARGE AMOUNTS OVER A SHORT SPAN OF TIME NNNNHUH YOU COULD RISK GETTING A SERIOUS TUMMY ACHE SO CHECK YOUR SOURCES BEFORE YOU SPOUT THIS "FACTUAL" BULLSHIT ALL OVER THE PLACE YOU H R GEIGER LOOKING MOTHERFUCKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tresexy101 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jake69 said: There is a thing called water which keeps the vocal chords healthy and also keeps you hydrated. And it also causes no health issues. O.K. The title of this thread is 'Will Billie Joe Armstrongs' Singing Voice Recover'? I can sing a lil bit.. I'm on youtube. In the moment, alcohol DOES help cleanse the palate. Just google it or something. Please stop me from destroying you with facts and words over a silly question. Actually, I'll take the high note road, you win. Jake69 wins. Water is so great, Jesus, turned it into wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tresexy101 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Jake69 said: No, I'll be the bigger man. tresexy101 wins ladies and gentlemen. He fought long and hard and he came out victorious. Congratulations man! Take a bow. Ummm, O.K. (and what the fuck does o.k. stand for)? Get it? It's a Green Day lyric. I feel I have to explain things I type to the less fortunate. I win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haushinka! Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I listened to Outlaws for the first time in weeks today. Is it just me, or does anyone else think his voice sounds super nasally in the beginning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tresexy101 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, Haushinka! said: I listened to Outlaws for the first time in weeks today. Is it just me, or does anyone else think his voice sounds super nasally in the beginning? I just listened to the song to see if he was nasally in the beginning. I didn't hear the nasally part. Maybe he had a cold or something when singing the song and sounded nasally. Thank you Haushinka... I now love the word 'nasally' and will use it EVERY time if someone asks me if I'm drunk. Peace and Love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I guess I must be deaf because I thought he's sounded ok lately. His vocals aren't as good as on the 21cb tour but not bad...or maybe I want to believe he's improved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Haushinka! said: I listened to Outlaws for the first time in weeks today. Is it just me, or does anyone else think his voice sounds super nasally in the beginning? It does, but I think that's to do with the production. The lo-fi "radio" effect on the vocals at the start is achieved by cutting the high and low frequencies out, which just leaves the mid range, but a side-effect of that is that it can make stuff sound really honky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsername Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 10 hours ago, Spike said: Yep. It also causes vocal cord constriction in excess. Also if the choice is between him sounding slightly less good, or getting hammered before going on stage every night, given that he's an alcoholic... It's no contest. Agree 100%. Plus, I think we have to consider the fact that Billie took pills and drank alcohol to calm down and fight his nervouseness. So now that he performs sober I'm pretty sure he's more nervous and I think it's extremely brave of him and it makes me so proud. I would admire this guy even more if that was still possible. Yes, 21CB-Billie sounded awesome, but after all we've found out about that time and that all his problems started to get out of control from there it made me realize that I prefer RevRad-Billie 1,000 times. I even love his not so polished voice, gives it a lot of emotion. The Ellen-performance of Still Breathing was an exception, I think the sound quality in the studio was very bad in general, I think the SB-performance during their first show in Italy was lovely, judging from the videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumFan Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Guys, I have to say, as a musician myself, I can quite easily tell when there's the slightest imperfection in somebody's vocals. Personally, if I could choose, I wouldn't want to be able to tell, but that's just how it is. So, yes, I can tell that there is a difference between what Billie sounded like during the 21CB Tour and now. However, no matter what caused this, I highly doubt drinking alcohol and consuming drugs again would help. Billie's voice is a lot rougher and more raw than it used to be, however this doesn't bother me. What does, is that, occasionally, depending on where, when, which song etc. he can be a bit off key. However, he sounds nowhere near as bad as during the promotional tour in 2012. At that time he looked terrible too. And if I'm quite honest as well, I was sometimes quite freaked out by the things Billie did and the way he looked even during the 21CB tour when he was high/and or drunk as f**k. So considering all these things, I'm perfectly happy with the way he looks and sounds now, though I'm sure there are non toxic ways of improving his voice further... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 This thread is hilarious. Since when is becoming a drunk an accepted method of improving one's vocal skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcasm Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, Hermione said: This thread is hilarious. Since when is becoming a drunk an accepted method of improving one's vocal skills? the dawn of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 37 minutes ago, MilleniumFan said: Guys, I have to say, as a musician myself, I can quite easily tell when there's the slightest imperfection in somebody's vocals. Personally, if I could choose, I wouldn't want to be able to tell, but that's just how it is. So, yes, I can tell that there is a difference between what Billie sounded like during the 21CB Tour and now. However, no matter what caused this, I highly doubt drinking alcohol and consuming drugs again would help. Billie's voice is a lot rougher and more raw than it used to be, however this doesn't bother me. What does, is that, occasionally, depending on where, when, which song etc. he can be a bit off key. However, he sounds nowhere near as bad as during the promotional tour in 2012. At that time he looked terrible too. And if I'm quite honest as well, I was sometimes quite freaked out by the things Billie did and the way he looked even during the 21CB tour when he was high/and or drunk as f**k. So considering all these things, I'm perfectly happy with the way he looks and sounds now, though I'm sure there are non toxic ways of improving his voice further... I think during the 21CB tour, he had gone through training for his run on Broadway. I think that is why his vocals were so good then. I am not a vocalist, but wouldn't how tired he is in the set affect his voice, even being off key? Also, I know age does affect your voice. I can think of so many vocalists that just can't hit the notes they used too as they aged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jonny Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 When doing a cover set of Green Day songs with my cover band, I can certainly tell you a couple beers are just what you need to open up you're vocal chords and range. Getting drunk is a different thing all together. I think it is more age making his vocals change and that will happen either way. Alcohol of course will not help your throat and voice over time but aging is gonna happen regardless. It takes time to get back into the swing of things too, a month from now you will notice a much better sound coming from him as he is then into full fledge touring "auto-pilot" mode as I like to call it. He's just finding all the feelers now again. Also, many professional musicians his age do vocal warm downs after each show which has been proven to help big time when on tour. Many vocalists don't do them and Billie doesn't strike me as one who would, after busting his ass for 2 and a half hrs. Give him more time, by the end of the Euro dates this month, it will sound much better. Another funny ass thread though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlappy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Still Breathing really threw everyone into a tissy, huh? Suddenly it's THE END OF TIMES! I think it's honestly just that song. Seeing them live and watching 2016 performances of other songs have produced no concerns from me. (And I thought the iheart album release party performance of Still Breathing was really good, but anyway...) The "I'm a better singer when I'm drunk argument?" yeah, I bet it seems that way doesn't it lol. Get a couple shots in me and I think I'm Pavarotti too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leni. Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Schlappy said: Get a couple shots in me and I think I'm Pavarotti too. You killed me by this sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Hermione said: This thread is hilarious. Since when is becoming a drunk an accepted method of improving one's vocal skills? Well, once I got smashed enough to become a self-declared piano virtuoso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I wouldn't trade current Billie for past Billie in a million years. His voice has changed over time, but it is powerful and more clear. He sounds a bit more raw, but I like how his voice is aging—because his voice is kinda high sometimes, sounding too polished isn't appealing to me. Being healthy enough to have a long and happy career and life is so much more fucking important than how his voice has changed, so I'm going to pretend this debate isn't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, stories and songs said: I wouldn't trade current Billie for past Billie in a million years. His voice has changed over time, but it is powerful and more clear. He sounds a bit more raw, but I like how his voice is aging—because his voice is kinda high sometimes, sounding too polished isn't appealing to me. Being healthy enough to have a long and happy career and life is so much more fucking important than how his voice has changed, so I'm going to pretend this debate isn't happening. I clearly must be in a minority that doesn't really mind the voice change. I like when he sounds rough. And as to the pitch imperfections, I think it's usually just SB. But I didn't listen to many live recordings from last year so I can't make a completely informed judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, stories and songs said: Being healthy enough to have a long and happy career and life is so much more fucking important than how his voice has changed, so I'm going to pretend this debate isn't happening. The idea that it's a choice between those two things is so ridiculous though. Getting sober doesn't cause someone's voice to deteriorate and taking up drinking doesn't cause it to improve. I don't understand how it even became a debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Even on the recorded version of Still Breathing, Billie's voice sounds different because he's screaming the chorus more than he typically does. So it translates differently than most of their songs do when sung live. I love how he sings it, personally. Even if it's sometimes off-key live, how much he's feeling it makes up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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