Fuzz Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 It's garbage. Bad songs (except wmuwse), bad production, the whole rock opera thing and mainstream fuck bush theme. Should I start talking about singles? AI must be the most overrated GD song ever. The songs are too long... Just for the start. I don't like it. Is that so wrong? There wasn't a mainstream "Fuck Bush" theme. First off, the only song that's "Fuck Bush" is American Idiot itself, the rest has very little to do with him directly, and only Holiday tangentially related by being anti-war. In 2003 when they were writing it, there wasn't a mainstream "Fuck Bush" theme. Bush was still popular enough to win re-election in 2004. I don't like AI as a song either, but the rest of the album doesn't resemble the opening song in anyway. 3 Quote
Hermione Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Can I just say there's nothing wrong with not liking AI and thinking it's not good, based on the music. That's personal preference/opinion. It's just the reasons given (such as not liking AI fans, or claiming that "fuck Bush" was a mainstream thing), and your acting as if other people are at fault for liking it that people are disagreeing with. Just want to point out no one's saying you have to like the album 1 Quote
The Disappearing Boy Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 AI is easily the most important song in their back catalogue. 1 Quote
Popular Post JOE THE X-KID Posted August 11, 2014 Popular Post Posted August 11, 2014 American Idiot never gets boring, I've heard the song so many times but it's so cleverly written and extremely important in Green Days career. 7 Quote
Anaïs. Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Like you did? I fail to see how that quote is true fan nonsense, and you're fully aware that there's a whole thread of nothing but Ceadog, ZJ, Tom, Kay and me deconstructing the Trilogy in an analytical manner. 0/10, troll harder next time. 1 Quote
Guest Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 It's garbage. Bad songs (except wmuwse), bad production, the whole rock opera thing and mainstream fuck bush theme. Should I start talking about singles? AI must be the most overrated GD song ever. The songs are too long... Just for the start. I don't like it. Is that so wrong? > complains about the songs on AI being too long > complains about the singles on AI > Says WMUWSE is the only good song on AI Quote
Anaïs. Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 > complains about the singles on AI > loves the albums whose singles were Oh Love, Kill the DJ, Stray Heart and The Forgotten. 3 Quote
Popular Post ifmemoryserves Posted August 11, 2014 Popular Post Posted August 11, 2014 It's garbage. Bad songs (except wmuwse), bad production, the whole rock opera thing and mainstream fuck bush theme. Should I start talking about singles? AI must be the most overrated GD song ever. The songs are too long... Just for the start. I don't like it. Is that so wrong?bad....... production??????? 6 Quote
Guest Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 bad....... production??????? it's that bit that makes me think he's just trying to wind us up, and secretly loves AI as much as the next fan. Quote
Spike Posted August 11, 2014 Author Posted August 11, 2014 It's garbage. Bad songs (except wmuwse), bad production, the whole rock opera thing and mainstream fuck bush theme. Should I start talking about singles? AI must be the most overrated GD song ever. The songs are too long... Just for the start. I don't like it. Is that so wrong? When it's for those reasons yes, it's wrong. 2 Quote
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 he's just trying to wind us up Does he ever do anything other than that, then? Quote
GugsGreenDay Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 it's that bit that makes me think he's just trying to wind us up, and secretly loves AI as much as the next fan. I think that too, because someone talk so much bullshit Quote
DookieLukie Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Seagull is like one of those closet gays who constantly call people "fags" and put down anyone that isn't "manly." Eventually he will come out and accept his love for AI, and a whole new Seagull will be born. 1 Quote
WhiteTim Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Seagull is like one of those closet gays who constantly call people "fags" and put down anyone that isn't "manly." Eventually he will come out and accept his love for AI, and a whole new Seagull will be born. I thought you didn't like AI as well? Or am I mistaken? I know there was another user who was anti AI I may be confusing you with another person sorry if I am Quote
Hermione Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Once again a reminder that this isn't the discuss Steven Seagull thread. Pretty sure it's possible to disagree with, agree with or not comment on someone's opinions without making things personal. Quote
Popular Post JOE THE X-KID Posted August 11, 2014 Popular Post Posted August 11, 2014 How anyone can say Jesus of surburbia is a bad song is beyond me. 5 Quote
The Disappearing Boy Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 At least Seagull lives up to his name as a seagull - shitting on everything. 3 Quote
JOE THE X-KID Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 I'm not even a huge fan of American Idiot, but it's a brilliant album. Quote
Purple Haze Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 I can't comprehend how anyone can say AI is a bad album. The closest the album has to a bad song is "Homecoming" IMO. And I like "Homecoming". Quote
DookieLukie Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 I thought you didn't like AI as well? Or am I mistaken? I know there was another user who was anti AI I may be confusing you with another person sorry if I am AI is my favorite GD album. 1 Quote
The Disappearing Boy Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 I can't comprehend how anyone can say AI is a bad album. The closest the album has to a bad song is "Homecoming" IMO. And I like "Homecoming". I was gonna like that until you implied the worst song was Homecoming. That's easily one of their best ever songs for me. She's a Rebel or Extraordinary Girl are the least best songs on American Idiot. Quote
Purple Haze Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 I was gonna like that until you implied the worst song was Homecoming. That's easily one of their best ever songs for me. She's a Rebel or Extraordinary Girl are the least best songs on American Idiot Awww I needed that rep I never said it was a bad song though, I love all the individual little pieces of the song. They just don't flow as well as they do on "Jesus of Suburbia" to me. 2 Quote
The Disappearing Boy Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Awww I needed that rep I never said it was a bad song though, I love all the individual little pieces of the song. They just don't flow as well as they do on "Jesus of Suburbia" to me. Have a rep for this post then I've always thought the transitions seem fine. The only part of the song that seems a little out of place compared to the rest of it is the third part, but I think the transitions to and from it are good enough that it flows fairly well. In fact, thinking about it, the only transitions in Jos are from part 1 to 2 and part 3 to 4. For the others, one part stops and the next part starts immediately after. Quote
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