Blasphemy & Genocide: Unpopular Green Day Opinions, Part 2

[WhiteTim]

Dookie, Nimrod, Warning ?

Dookie would hardly be top 5

[Steven Seagull]

Dookie would hardly be top 5

lol

[The Disappearing Boy]

Dookie, Nimrod, Warning ?

Up there, definitely.

Surely there's people who like each one of their albums best due to people having different tastes and criteria for an album being good? I'm sure that fact used to be more accepted on this site

Nope, doesn't have to be.

Everyone has their opinions - definitely! But I think technically speaking, and objectively speaking, American Idiot and probably Breakdown are their best works. I like parts of the Trilogy, but I can't see it getting anywhere near those two.

[Hermione]

Everyone has their opinions - definitely! But I think technically speaking, and objectively speaking, American Idiot and probably Breakdown are their best works. I like parts of the Trilogy, but I can't see it getting anywhere near those two.

Yeah true, but not everyone judges what album is best only based on what's technically best. They're objectively their most ambitious and complex but there's so many other factors that can come into judging what makes an album the best overall that it can never really be objective imo.

[The Disappearing Boy]

Yeah true, but not everyone judges what album is best only based on what's technically best. They're objectively their most ambitious and complex but there's so many other factors that can come into judging what makes an album the best overall that it can never really be objective imo.

Agreed. And I generally don't, to be honest. I mean, I also love Dookie and Nimrod, but they aren't objectively on a level with American Idiot or Breakdown. To be honest, I was more objecting to the fact the The Trilogy was chosen as the best, not the fact that it wasn't AI

[Todd]

Yeah, 21st century breakdown is one of their most diverse works, not best. Nowhere close

[Jollyroger118]

DOS is the only one from the trilogy I regularly listen through front to back. My least favorite on it is Makeout Party but it intrigues me cause it seems to be one of Billie's favorites from the trilogy but even then I don't really hate it like I hate Troublemaker or The Forgotten.

[Clockwise]

I'd agree, except for the fact that 21st Century Breakdown exists. And American Idiot, Warning, Nimrod, Insomniac, Dookie, Kerplunk, and 39/Smooth. But yeah, aside from those, the trilogy is definitely GD at their best.

Interesting opinion of yours, I disagree with it. I love all of those albums, the trilogy is just the most enjoyable for me.

[Todd]

I'd agree, except for the fact that 21st Century Breakdown exists. And American Idiot, Warning, Nimrod, Insomniac, Dookie, Kerplunk, and 39/Smooth. But yeah, aside from those, the trilogy is definitely GD at their best.

Shenanigans or Tre? Pick one

[Certified Nimrod]

The melody is really jarring and I don't like the lyrics.

I don't think there's anything jarring about it, but I also don't have a music degree.

That's like a bad version of Loss of Control.

I'd agree, except for the fact that 21st Century Breakdown exists. And American Idiot, Warning, Nimrod, Insomniac, Dookie, Kerplunk, and 39/Smooth. But yeah, aside from those, the trilogy is definitely GD at their best.

Kay is a WRECKING BALL.

[Spike]

I don't think there's anything jarring about it, but I also don't have a music degree.

Nah it's nothing to do with having a music degree, it's just how it sounds to me

[DookieLukie]

DOS is the only one from the trilogy I regularly listen through front to back. My least favorite on it is Makeout Party but it intrigues me cause it seems to be one of Billie's favorites from the trilogy but even then I don't really hate it like I hate Troublemaker or The Forgotten.

When did he say it was one of his favorites?

[Certified Nimrod]

Nah it's nothing to do with having a music degree, it's just how it sounds to me

I don't know what would be considered "jarring," though.

[Spike]

I don't know what would be considered "jarring," though.

There isn't even anything specific, it just sounds weird to me.

[Certified Nimrod]

There isn't even anything specific, it just sounds weird to me.

Alrighty then.

[Spike]

Just pointing out this isn't the "discuss Steven Seagull" thread , you can disagree with his unpopular Green Day opinions or post evidence that they're suspect if you want but we don't need a general discussion about any particular GDCer (or a discussion that seems to be drifting away from unpopular Green Day opinions in any case) here.

Sorry My only real reason for sharing those posts was that this thread (as well as the old one) gets derailed semi-regularly with a silly argument about AI, usually fronted by Seagull, so I considered it a public service to advise on how to extinguish that whenever it happens.

[Hermione]

Sorry My only real reason for sharing those posts was that this thread (as well as the old one) gets derailed semi-regularly with a silly argument about AI, usually fronted by Seagull, so I considered it a public service to advise on how to extinguish that whenever it happens.

Oh I considered that on topic, in response to Seagull's opinion that AI is crap, it was the more general discussion of him that started afterwards that I was referring to.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

I still don't get the love for Lazy Bones.

[The Disappearing Boy]

Yes I do

Same here. The album version is pretty awful, but the demolicious version is so much better, it's hard to believe it's basically the same song.

[Anaïs.]

Tre is obviously more cohesive an album than Shenanigans, which isn't even an album. That said, Espionage and Ha Ha You're Dead blow every song off the former save Brutal Love out of the water.

[Sauli]

Ha Ha You're Dead must be one of the catchiest songs they ever did.

[Certified Nimrod]

That said, Espionage and Ha Ha You're Dead blow every song off the former save Brutal Love out of the water.

Espionage is probably one of my top 10 Green Day songs. It's so cool and different. Every time I play it, I like to pretend I'm in a Quentin Tarantino film

People actually listen to Espionage? I think I've listened to the whole thing once.

[Z J]

I think the problem with Loss of Control is that it's just bad. Jarring or not, it's just terrible. It just feels like they're trying way too hard to summon an Insomniac level of anger.

[Anaïs.]

Definitely worth a re-visit. It's good, energizing music

And should've been on Nimrod. instead of Last Ride In.

[ifmemoryserves]

shenanigans is way better than the trilogy. i'd rather have a 14-song incohesive "album" than three with 37 songs that suck.