Dookie Included in NME's "55 Incredible Albums Celebrating Huge Anniversaries in 2014"

[EatmyDookie]

http://www.nme.com/photos/55-incredible-albums-celebrating-huge-anniversaries-in-2014/328770/1/1

[Spike]

http://www.greendaycommunity.org/topic/93916-random-green-day-news/?p=5542261

[Hermione]

Very nice! And the first one on the list . Interesting to have a look at the rest of the list too. Glad to see The College Dropout, Slim Shady LP, Ill Communication, Illmatic and Chronic 2001, some of the best rap albums ever (although they criminally left out the Notorious B.I.G.'s Ready To Die (1994) and De La Soul's 3 Feet High And Rising (1989)). And glad to see Showbiz and London Calling too. Loads of amazing albums.

http://www.greendaycommunity.org/topic/93916-random-green-day-news/?p=5542261

Just because something's been posted in Random News it doesn't mean there can't be a thread for it. Ideally people should make threads for anything that isn't really small and random instead of putting everything in there. Perfectly fine to have a thread for this

[DookieLukie]

Hermione is a great mod. Just saying.

[Vic_Rattlehead]

Weird that they mentioned Abbey Road and not A Hard Day's Night, which turns 50 (!) this July. That is mental, it doesn't even sound 30 years old, let alone 50.

Very nice! And the first one on the list . Interesting to have a look at the rest of the list too. Glad to see The College Dropout, Slim Shady LP, Ill Communication, Illmatic and Chronic 2001, some of the best rap albums ever (although they criminally left out the Notorious B.I.G.'s Ready To Die (1994) and De La Soul's 3 Feet High And Rising (1989)). And glad to see Showbiz and London Calling too. Loads of amazing albums.

Just because something's been posted in Random News it doesn't mean there can't be a thread for it. Ideally people should make threads for anything that isn't really small and random instead of putting everything in there. Perfectly fine to have a thread for this

Totally agree, especially Slim Shady LP, Ill Communication and Illmatic. Some of the best of all time 1994 was a good year for hip-hop

[Spike]

Just because something's been posted in Random News it doesn't mean there can't be a thread for it. Ideally people should make threads for anything that isn't really small and random instead of putting everything in there. Perfectly fine to have a thread for this

Fair enough, I just didn't make a thread for it when I saw it since I thought it'd be considered very minor. But yeah, that makes sense.

[bjrules]

Awesome, but I'm surprised American Idiot didn't make it on the list as well.

[Hermione]

Hermione is a great mod. Just saying.

Why thank you!

Fair enough, I just didn't make a thread for it when I saw it since I thought it'd be considered very minor. But yeah, that makes sense.

Nothing wrong with posting it in there if that's what you thought of it so no worries (although we always like to encourage "if in doubt make a thread"), having a separate thread for things that have been posted in there is always fine as well though.

[Jax Teller]

Hermione is a great mod. Just saying.

Very true.

[November's Storms]

It seems as if they opted to choose only one album per artist but to me Dookie has had it's time, American Idiot is an anniversary I'm looking forward to far more!

[Anaïs.]

NME finally gets something right? Crazy talk.

[Elena]

American Idiot is definitely an incredible album, but if they were only going to choose one, Dookie is the obvious choice. Much more influential, and a 20th anniversary is more noteworthy than a 10th anniversary.

also, the though of AI turning 10 just makes me feel old as shit & I hate being reminded of it

but wasn't AI more popular? ...i agree that a 20th anniversary is more noteworthy, though...i prefer AI over Dookie (just by a little tiny bit) but if i had to choose between AI and Dookie for such a list cos i just wanna include one album per band/artist, i'd definately take Dookie, cos it's the older one and it's the album that made the band successful and it kinda says "look at how old this album is and how long they're already stars and they still have success" as that's not usual while 10 years are more usual. also pretty much every teen knows American Idiot, we don't need a list to remember anyone, but for Dookie it's a bit different (i mean, sure the fans all know it and everyone who was at least 10 when it got released remembers it as well, but most teens nowadays have probably never heard about it...sadly)

imo they'd both deserve to be in that list, cos they're both masterpieces, are damn popular and were - or still are - damn influential, but they really probably just wanted to include one album per artist or band.

[Guest]

AI was definitely more popular, and will probably outsell Dookie in the long run, but Dookie brought a whole new wave of punk/pop punk bands into the mainstream/public eye. Blink, The Offspring, and Bad Religion owe a lot of their popularity to GD, and some bands, such as Sum 41 owe their entire existence to it.

On the other hand, out of AI we got bands like Fall Out Boy, All Time Low, and New Found Glory. Dookie definitely wins there.

[DookieLukie]

Why thank you!

Nothing wrong with posting it in there if that's what you thought of it so no worries (although we always like to encourage "if in doubt make a thread"), having a separate thread for things that have been posted in there is always fine as well though.

Feel free to PM me whenever you want. You're my kind of woman.

[Guest]

Feel free to PM me whenever you want. You're my kind of woman.

Has this ever worked for you, ever? Honestly curious, because it seems like a fucking awful way to pick up girls.

[HolyHandGrenade]

On the other hand, out of AI we got bands like Fall Out Boy, All Time Low, and New Found Glory. Dookie definitely wins there.

Could you credit AI for My Chemical Romance too?

[Guest]

Could you credit AI for My Chemical Romance too?

Eh, I suppose so. The Black Parade's success was definitely born off AI's back. They were complete nobodies before GD blasted back into the mainstream with the eyeliner look.

[Elena]

I wasn't immersed in the punk/rock scene at age 6, but I always got the impression that Dookie was majorly influential in kind of re-defining the punk movement at the time.... and look at its staying power as well. People think of "American Idiot" as "that political Green Day album," but Dookie has these songs that have definitely seeped into the culture (Longview, Basket Case, WTP), and that still get plenty of air time on the radio and are kind of seen as summing up the attitude of a generation. American Idiot made its mark, for sure, but in the long run I think Dookie is the one with the staying power.

true but AI was also very influential, it's the album i grew up with and it gets a lot of air time still as well (while i've only heard When I Come Around once on a german radio station and nothing else), it made me to a Green Day fan and got me into music and for a lot of people it was similar...many people saw it as very political, so it had a huge impact on that as well

and hey, guess which album cover was the inspiration for the cover of Jet Lag by Simple Plan?

sure, Dookie had a huge impact and definately has staying power, but AI as well, it also kind of sums up the attitude of a generation...if you ask me about which album i can identify more with then i'll always answer you with AI.

I guess it just depends on in which of the two eras you're born in/grew up in (kinda reminds me of Star Wars, similar fight there xD)

but as i said i would have chosen Dookie for as well

AI was definitely more popular, and will probably outsell Dookie in the long run, but Dookie brought a whole new wave of punk/pop punk bands into the mainstream/public eye. Blink, The Offspring, and Bad Religion owe a lot of their popularity to GD, and some bands, such as Sum 41 owe their entire existence to it.

On the other hand, out of AI we got bands like Fall Out Boy, All Time Low, and New Found Glory. Dookie definitely wins there.

that's true, though and Dookie also partly brought one of my favorite bands called Itchy Poopzkid, but only partly

a lot of stars in general mention how they love Dookie and how it was one of their first records or the first Green Day record, but really if you wait about 10 or maybe 20 years maybe most stars will tell you the same with American Idiot...

[Elena]

Well yes, I do agree with you, as someone who was 14 years old when AI came out I definitely feel that it summed up the feelings of my generation at that time. I guess I was just trying to be sort of impartial about the two albums and try to figure out objectively which one shaped the music scene more, and honestly I feel like it was Dookie (even though my main connection is to AI). Dookie also wins in my book because the messages in it are so universally relatable, whereas AI definitely had that very specific, political focus.

i guess it depends on how you see it and on how you understood the album and how everyone else understood it...for most AI was this totally political album which was good at that time cos everyone could relate to it, but that's something that won't last forever, politicians always change and even though they might not get better, the album will still remain as an album against Bush, but if you just see the personal story in it it's timeless. i guess it's just that most people just saw all the politics in it, Dookie on the other hand doesn't give as much place for interpretation and is definately about personal things...what i also love about that album is that it just sounds like a record that's written today, it's so timeless...imo even on a Ramones record (that is still also kinda timeless and damn amazing) you hear it in which time it was written, but not so with Dookie. i guess Green Day would do the absolute same record in the same way if they put out their major label debut this year instead (same with AI though).

[DookieLukie]

Has this ever worked for you, ever? Honestly curious, because it seems like a fucking awful way to pick up girls.

Actually it works a lot. I started doing it as a joke with one of my friends. Turns out girls will go for you if you 1) act like an overconfident jerk 2) nag and nag until they give in.

Nothing meaningful has come of it, but trust me it works. And it's horrible to see how many girls will go for a complete stranger merely because he says they're special.

[Hermione]

Yeah I think they probably picked Dookie mostly because it's a bigger anniversary. Also it seems like Dookie was quite a lot bigger in the US than it was elsewhere, might not have been so hugely influential here for example (we had Brit pop going on at the time and that was much bigger) so it might not seem that it was as big a thing as AI (which was really huge here), but I suppose in the world's music scene as a whole it was the most influential.

Actually it works a lot. I started doing it as a joke with one of my friends. Turns out girls will go for you if you 1) act like an overconfident jerk 2) nag and nag until they give in.

Nothing meaningful has come of it, but trust me it works. And it's horrible to see how many girls will go for a complete stranger merely because he says they're special.

Tempted as I am by your ingenious seduction technique, let's not fill the thread with any more of your expert advice

[DookieLukie]

Yeah I think they probably picked Dookie mostly because it's a bigger anniversary. Also it seems like Dookie was quite a lot bigger in the US than it was elsewhere, might not have been so hugely influential here for example (we had Brit pop going on at the time and that was much bigger) so it might not seem that it was as big a thing as AI (which was really huge here), but I suppose in the world's music scene as a whole it was the most influential.

Tempted as I am by your ingenious seduction technique, let's not fill the thread with any more of your expert advice

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[Insomniac1984]

Reprise records: Do you have the time to tell us any important announcement about it???

Good to kno, it deserves all this recognition. Dookie was a great album, very influential in the 90's

[moonflower93]

Some of my other fave artists are on here, and I'm glad with Dookie, it's positive recognition from NME

[Iva]

Wonderful thread, cheers.

Six of 2004 albums I appreciate a lot are missing. And nobody will get what I'm saying.