"After The Disappointment of "Uno!, Dos!, Tre!" has Green Day Lost Some of Their Popularity?"

[Flyingdonutz]

Commercially, they won't be as big as One Direction, or JB, or any of those *censored*. Nonetheless, they could certainly make another album that's just as good as American Idiot or Dookie. And that's what I care about. Quality matters to me more than their success. And quality music doesn't get you anywhere today. As ridiculous as that sounds.

[R_Z-Log]

you hit the nail on the head. they're definitely not popular when it comes to mainstream - at all. but really, it doesn't matter. they're always going to have a huge loyal fanbase (us) even if they never have a number one album again. and that's fine. as long as they're still making music and doing what they love then it shouldn't matter to us or them how many records they sell.

that being said, i am still bummed that the trilogy has flopped the way it has, just because i really think it's great music and i wish a wider audience would give it a chance. i miss seeing interviews and performances on tv and just hearing about them in general. plus i'm still annoyed with the fact that anytime someone finds out i'm a green day fan it's the same shit: "oh i didn't even know they were still making music" "oh you still listen to green day?" "oh yeah i like their old stuff". it doesn't really make a difference to me what other people think, i just hate hearing them put down as another irrelevant rock band who haven't had a hit song in years because i know how talented they are but people who don't already like green day never want to give them a chance.

Your post seriously just brought tears to my eyes. I cant believe it took me so long to discover this community (I've been a part of it for a whopping 3 days lol), but I am SO happy to be here. And I agree 100% with everything you said.

[musso_kn]

I strongly believe time will be good for Green Day's status. All good, influential, famous musicians were trashed by critics or suffered popularity slumps at various points in their career. Now it's all "oh, yeah they're such legends, why aren't there more artists like them nowadays?" It's a cycle. Green Day have strong following, good record sales, generally favourable critical attention and a string of music awards. Twenty years down the line some more authentic (i.e. not ATL) punk/punk influenced band like Green Day will come around with a great, unknown future ahead of them and all those arseholes will say "meh, they'll never live up to the critical and commercial success of their predecessors i.e Green Day." Music pundits think in hindsight.

[Misterglasshalfempty]

I can't help but notice that people love to argue about whether or not the trilogy is disappointment. Musically, yes and no. Some people love it, others, like myself, would have preferred something different. But you can't expect to please everyone, so musically speaking we have to agree to disagree. Commercially, however, you can't deny the fact that the trilogy was somewhat of a disappointment. Blame it on Warner, the band, the music, the drugs, it doesn't matter how you choose to explain it; the trilogy was a commercial failure.

That being said, Green Day is still one of the biggest bands out there today. Like someone said before me, there aren't really a lot of other bands that come to mind when trying to find the biggest band right now. But Green Day is not mainstream anymore, so in that sense you could argue that they're not as popular anymore. As for them filling up giant stadiums, I would dare to suggest that the reason is their previous success. The trilogy didn't spawn any major hits, and like it or not, the majority of people still know them best for BOBD, 21 Guns, and maybe even older stuff. But is that the same as saying that they're not popular anymore? Absolutely not, but I think it's time to face the fact that it's their older work that's still popular, not the trilogy. Sure the trilogy gets some airplay, but nothing like their big hits have gotten before.

And lets not forget that it's not easy to make a hit in this genre anymore. Today's mainstream music revolves around synth-driven indie rock with strange melodies and R'n'B/electronica mashups, not the distorted guitars that define Green Day. I think we have to wait a few years anyway, until the mainstream music changes, before we should expect any huge commercial success for Green Day.

That is all.

[Jimmy the Kid]

I think they've lost some of their popularity but they're still one of the biggest rock bands in the world. The only bands that I can think of that are probably bigger than them are Foo Fighters, Muse , Coldplay and Linkin Park

AcDc, Metallica...

Gonna be honest, I dont want them to be mainstream. For the same reason I didn't want Skrillex to go mainstream. Because they're different. As soon as they're trendy, I'm not going to let myself listen to whatever is trending. I just can't enjoy something that all the preppy douches around the school listen to. I've been a Green Day fan since I heard Burnout but man I just hate listening to their trendy stuff. So hopefully they just stay where they are but somehow put out something that matches 21st Century Breakdown, or exceeds it and is as good as Dookie or AI. Like that would ever happen though, lol.

Yes, because heck the bands you like and just stop listening to them because they're mainstream. Great opinion

[watchmefade92]

They will always be very successful with tours, but for radio/record sales/singles, they're done.

Not sure about radio airplay - especially in Europe.

Here in Switzerland, they had a lot of airplay recently. Don't know why, but they even put "Missing you" on rotation (probably because there was no real single off Tré). "Kill the DJ" and especially "Oh Love" were radio "hits" too.

[Flyingdonutz]

AcDc, Metallica...

Yes, because heck the bands you like and just stop listening to them because they're mainstream. Great opinion

Do you think about what you read before you post? Or do you just fly off the handle on anyone that posts something that isn't completely explained? My point was I won't listen to their radio-friendly songs that they make specifically to be a hit. Like the Forgotten. Like 21 Guns. Because I hate music that trends on the pop stations on the radio. Just hate it. I'm obviously not going to stop listening to Green Day because I hear a song on the radio.

Not sure about radio airplay - especially in Europe.

Here in Switzerland, they had a lot of airplay recently. Don't know why, but they even put "Missing you" on rotation (probably because there was no real single off Tré). "Kill the DJ" and especially "Oh Love" were radio "hits" too.

Yeah, same in Canada. Frequently I hear songs by Green Day on the rock stations. It's never on the pop stations but on what is easily my favourite station in rock 101. Just yesterday I heard (surprisingly) Welcome to Paradise. A 20 year old song, on the radio. By no means are they done. I hear When I Come Around on the radio all the time, too. American Idiot, Boulevard, etc, still get plenty of airtime. I heard Oh Love a few times, too.

If we ask ourselves how the music industry works, we say, guys and girls with pretty faces and hot bodies that have little to no talent get up on stage and sing about sad bullshit and parties, sex, booze, and money, and relationships. As far as the best Green Day songs that get released being on the radio in the future, no chance. But whichever song they release that's about some sad stuff that people don't really understand unless they're an actual Green Day fan like Sept. Ends or Boulevard or 21 guns, and it's promoted properly, it WILL be on the radio because when the girls go and watch the music videos, they'll get hot for Billie just like they do Justin Bieber and Harry Styles and they'll listen to it, and enjoy it. By no means are they done on the radio, but as far as their quality music being played on the pop stations, they are done. Radio friendly songs get airtime, and most of Green Day's stuff isn't radio friendly. But each album comes with something like that, and that's what's going to control music when they make their next album.

[Hermione]

Do you think about what you read before you post? Or do you just fly off the handle on anyone that posts something that isn't completely explained? My point was I won't listen to their radio-friendly songs that they make specifically to be a hit. Like the Forgotten. Like 21 Guns. Because I hate music that trends on the pop stations on the radio. Just hate it. I'm obviously not going to stop listening to Green Day because I hear a song on the radio.

Do you really think they make those songs specifically to be a hit? They're hits because they're good and because that type of song (ballads/power ballads) happen to be popular with a lot of people, that doesn't mean they weren't written with the same integrity and passion they put into all their other songs. Who else is listening to a song or where it's being played shouldn't matter. Just listen to a song and see whether you like it or not based on how it sounds to your ears, nothing else is important.

[Flyingdonutz]

Do you really think they make those songs specifically to be a hit? They're hits because they're good and because that type of song (ballads/power ballads) happen to be popular with a lot of people, that doesn't mean they weren't written with the same integrity and passion they put into all their other songs. Who else is listening to a song or where it's being played shouldn't matter. Just listen to a song and see whether you like it or not based on how it sounds to your ears, nothing else is important.

When they wrote 21 guns, I can 100 percent guarantee you they had Boulevard in mind. When they wrote Macy's Day Parade, they were most likely trying to write something like Good Riddance. The same passion goes into them as any other song, but they know how to write a pop song. They weren't writing Homecoming thinking it would be a radio hit. Yet it was arguably the best song on the album. My point is, I don't like doing things that a large group of people doing, it makes me look like a poser and I hate that, I prefer to be judged as someone that is completely screwed up, not in with the crowd. And I make my actions prove that. I never like their radio hits anyways, not since Boulevard. It's an alright song, not nearly as good as some of the other songs on the album IMO.

[Cath]

talking about the radio, after the show in Quebec they played full Dookie on radio (yes yes!) and only Green Day songs for the rest of the night

I never like their radio hits anyways, not since Boulevard. It's an alright song, not nearly as good as some of the other songs on the album IMO.

you don't like these songs only because it's played on radio?
i mean example for Tre, if we say you like DRB and then it became a single you won't say you like it anymore because it's on radio or what?

[Flyingdonutz]

talking about the radio, after the show in Quebec they played full Dookie on radio (yes yes!) and only Green Day songs for the rest of the night

you don't like these songs only because it's played on radio?

i mean example for Tre, if we say you like DRB and then it became a single you won't say you like it anymore because it's on radio or what?

No I don't like listening to them because what everyone else is doing its a personal preference and in this day and age its important to do everything to can to keep yourself as as much of an individual as you can it's a personal preference, not an opinion. If Dirty Rotten Bastards became a single and got played on the radio, I would still like it. If somehow it was literally the biggest song in the world, I wouldn't listen to it nearly as much. For the reasons stated above. Like it or not, that's what I do, lol.

[PleasedToMeetMe]

I love the trilogy. Only songs I don't care for are Troublemaker and Nightlife. A lot of the songs have a Warning era vibe and I love that. I was honestly expecting the trilogy to be huge but it wasn't. Does it really matter how popular the albums are? Green Day will always sell out arenas and make albums regardless of how many copies they sell. American Idiot is over, people need to move on.

[Yojimbo]

No. I like to think that Green Day has created a strong brand image since they have a career spanning over 2 decades, 11 studio albums under their belts. Like, when I say Green Day, people will think of Basket Case, Longview, American Idiot, JOS, etc. But whereas if I say Psy (I have nothing against the guy) the only song that will come across people's mind will be Gangnam Style. In simple business terms, strong brand image=customer loyalty. Evident by the fact that, even though the trilogy was not that well recieved almost over 60,000 fans attended the Emirates Gig.

[Hermione]

When they wrote 21 guns, I can 100 percent guarantee you they had Boulevard in mind. When they wrote Macy's Day Parade, they were most likely trying to write something like Good Riddance. The same passion goes into them as any other song, but they know how to write a pop song. They weren't writing Homecoming thinking it would be a radio hit. Yet it was arguably the best song on the album. My point is, I don't like doing things that a large group of people doing, it makes me look like a poser and I hate that, I prefer to be judged as someone that is completely screwed up, not in with the crowd. And I make my actions prove that. I never like their radio hits anyways, not since Boulevard. It's an alright song, not nearly as good as some of the other songs on the album IMO.

It shouldn't matter if lots of other people are doing it or not. Worrying about how something makes you look is what makes someone a poser! If you don't happen to like the sound of that type of song then that's fine, that's your personal taste. But don't let your personal taste be dictated by what other people like or don't like. My advice is to just listen to whatever sounds good to you and screw what anyone else thinks, music is much more enjoyable that way.

[mallorymaloney]

They losted it, because they changed their style, but IDIOTS love that style, no matter is it pop punk, punk rock, electronic punk. Idiots JUST DON'T CARE. Idiots love their music no matter what style is their. Now they changed style, now there's no more fans. And, luckily, idiots like me discovered, that there is like a whole fucking bunch of fake idiots. And yea, it's not sadly if you aren't interested in their music. We don't need you as fan. You can just stay fake idiot.

Annnnnnnnnnd let's not forget how obnoxious the fanbase has become, using this post as a prime example.

That's a big turnoff for me, as well.

[Cameron.]

Commercially yes, but not creatively.

Funny how the worst post in the thread gets the most likes...

[Strayheart1219]

I found 21st cb to be their most mainstream album ever

where were u for american idiot

No I don't like listening to them because what everyone else is doing its a personal preference and in this day and age its important to do everything to can to keep yourself as as much of an individual as you can it's a personal preference, not an opinion. If Dirty Rotten Bastards became a single and got played on the radio, I would still like it. If somehow it was literally the biggest song in the world, I wouldn't listen to it nearly as much. For the reasons stated above. Like it or not, that's what I do, lol.

but why are you limiting yourself... I mean I get what you're saying but like imo I think it's sad that you won't like something as much anymore because everyone likes it. That's just crazy to me. Like woah.

[Bastard of 1969]

Annnnnnnnnnd let's not forget how obnoxious the fanbase has become, using this post as a prime example.

That's a big turnoff for me, as well.

Obnoxious?! You are putting yourself Billie's picture, and you say that fanbase is obnoxious?! Then what are you even doing here? Talking about Green Day, or just shitting on their fanbase, calling it "obnoxious"?

[J&TheNight]

Wow, this thread turned really petty like 5 pages ago.

Mods, when you read this, please consider closing this thread. There is not a whole lot of discussion to be had on the matter, not at this point. At least close it until ANYTHING happens with the group that might affect the topic at hand. This is just a sad pathetic thread at this point.

[Misterglasshalfempty]

Obnoxious?! You are putting yourself Billie's picture, and you say that fanbase is obnoxious?! Then what are you even doing here? Talking about Green Day, or just shitting on their fanbase, calling it "obnoxious"?

Like it or not, you're coming across as obnoxious. Deal with it.

[beejeezee]

It's a christian music site. Christian music site. I don't think we should be taking this seriously.

Oh and we're a cult now!

[Hermione]

Annnnnnnnnnd let's not forget how obnoxious the fanbase has become, using this post as a prime example.

That's a big turnoff for me, as well.

Obnoxious?! You are putting yourself Billie's picture, and you say that fanbase is obnoxious?! Then what are you even doing here? Talking about Green Day, or just shitting on their fanbase, calling it "obnoxious"?

Like it or not, you're coming across as obnoxious. Deal with it.

No more bickering in here please. Unless you're going to say something civil and on topic, don't post. This applies to everyone.

[HaushinkaSins]

i dont think so. if we're talking 'mainstream'... then green day just hit 30 million likes on facebook. i think regardless of how the trilogy went they made their name as a staple already. they arent going anywhere.

[dangreenday]

i dont think so. if we're talking 'mainstream'... then green day just hit 30 million likes on facebook. i think regardless of how the trilogy went they made their name as a staple already. they arent going anywhere.

Which is a Great thing

[Kerplunk!!!]

Can't be bothered to read all this the the title of this thread makes me angry. After 21stcb I never thought i'd like anything Green Day did again, almost didn't give the trilogy a chance but i'm glad I did because I've found a fair few new songs I really like. Yet because the teenage girls who probably make up about 90%of the chart sales haven't gone out buying it that makes it a disappointment? Fuck that, it's a blessing if anything. Green Days tours are an indication of their popularity still, music sales hardly represent quality anymore..