"After The Disappointment of "Uno!, Dos!, Tre!" has Green Day Lost Some of Their Popularity?"

[Iain]

The trilogy only counts as one album contract wise not sales wise

Edited. Damn my wording. However my point there is to average the number each album sold by averaging the total from that point of view.

[yuan]

If the trilogy is a flop (and I will never agree to that, so good luck on that one), it's only a flop commercially. You have to remember 21st Century Breakdown was commercialised to fuck and had an immediate tour to promote it; this had only so much, and was promoted in all but the right places, and a misfortune that pushed a tour back by 4–6 months. A Zane Lowe radio interview is a better promotion of an album than Angry Birds.

While you could make a ratio on the number of albums sold to how many fans the band has, there's two problems here:

1. Common fans liked either none of the albums, one of them, two, or all three, so per album is hard to measure as for all we know one album sold better than the other. The trilogy however does count as one album in a contract sense so it you add the numbers together or average the three albums and compare it then, you might find something. Depends if you want to keep the numbers to sales or just count it as one.

2. Not that this bothers Green Day, but there are fans who leaked them so obviously they don't count on album sales as there is no purchase. I can vouch a lot of people stole this stuff so there's a number missing there, and a number that's hard to track as illegal downloading is pretty widespread.

You also have to remember there is still a tour ongoing, which is to promote the trilogy as well as the band and their music as a whole. There may be people buying (or stealing!) the album(s) as we speak, so the sales of such are pretty widespread. We might get better statistics over the course of time but we shall see. It's not like American Idiot or 21st Century Breakdown, I'll say that much so I don't expect it to supersede them but at least have good numbers.

How do you mean "basic"?

tour is like their roots, comfort zone, willing to do the most and they seem satisfied by it, other than that as the whole promotion package, meh, i am afraid they've delivered the wrong message to the wrong people, only the fans understand what's going on and the trilogy all really about, well hope more ppl would discover the albums by music themselves later on.

[Sanity Loan]

Its hard to say whether the band has lost popularity with the trilogy. I say that because most casual fans don't know the band released new material recently, which is sad.

[hamza_elyoubi]

Disappointment ?? -___-

[Strayheart1219]

^^^

[whatshername0303]

They have a HUGE fan base which automatically makes them kind of relevant, but right now the general public doesn't even know they are still a band.

THIS! I talked to some people who were like "Really, Green Day have made 3 albums this year? I didn't know." And I was like "YES! You must listen to it."

But my close friends knew about the trilogy because I was always talking about it. The trilogy isn't a disappointment to me.

[Slave To The Network]

I like how this CHRISTIAN site calls US a cult. Just wow.

[silvi@]

Ok. I don't know if this sneak preview should be real or not, u know, the trilogy has been made less than a year ... And, well, we must admit the fact that Uno-Dos-Tre have not sold a lot.

But it's not true the fact that Green Day NOW have less fans....who have said this? Have you ever see/been to the concert in their "99 revolution tour" ?? The most of their concert has been SOLD OUT ... So this shows to us, the fact that Green Day have not lost fans ....

However, we can see this trilogy like a gift for the real fans, 'cause is more closer than the old Green Day genre respect to 21CB (Billie once said that he doesn't like that album, who was made to follow the AI success).

[watchmefade92]

And, well, we must admit the fact that Uno-Dos-Tre have not sold a lot.

The trilogy sold actually quite well. Top ten in almost every country for UNO and DOS, top 15 for TRÉ. We also have to consider that the three albums count as one.

And it was no suprise that every part of the trilogy sold less than the one before. It's a well-known phenomenom in the music industry. The release of three albums in such a short time is - commercially - stupid. But the trilogy was all about that, about not giving a fuck about anything, including sales.

[The Platypus!]

They can be as unpopular as anything, as long as they keep making music and touring their real fans are going to be happy.

[WhiteTim]

The trilogy sold actually quite well. Top ten in almost every country for UNO and DOS, top 15 for TRÉ. We also have to consider that the three albums count as one.

Again only counts as one album contract wise sales wise they are seperate albums

But I agree with the last part

[Heather.]

I think the frustrating thing about the trilogy is that it's not like people heard it, thought "Oh jeez, Green Day has lost it!" and it tanked their career... people legitimately just haven't heard it, so in that sense it has had zero effect on their popularity one way or the other. They naturally are losing popularity, but it's not the trilogy's fault. They will either put out another generation-defining album or they will age gracefully, as they are doing, and that's that. Given the state of pop culture right now I'd say they're more likely to experience the latter and you can say bye bye to new radio hits. Though I do hope that for whatever their next album is, they give it one last try in a proper single release that isn't shitty

[Iain]

I think the frustrating thing about the trilogy is that it's not like people heard it, thought "Oh jeez, Green Day has lost it!" and it tanked their career... people legitimately just haven't heard it, so in that sense it has had zero effect on their popularity one way or the other. They naturally are losing popularity, but it's not the trilogy's fault. They will either put out another generation-defining album or they will age gracefully, as they are doing, and that's that. Given the state of pop culture right now I'd say they're more likely to experience the latter and you can say bye bye to new radio hits. Though I do hope that for whatever their next album is, they give it one last try in a proper single release that isn't shitty

Agreed. I love how everyone thinks this trilogy was terrible; I mean yeah it didn't hit home runs but it nearly hit all bases. I like how everyone was like "OH MY GOD Green Day have sold out; they're only releasing shit to make money".

Ahhhh, bitches, PLEASE.

...we must admit the fact that Uno-Dos-Tre have not sold a lot.

SOURCE AND STATISTICS PLEASE.

[WhiteTim]

Agreed. I love how everyone thinks this trilogy was terrible; I mean yeah it didn't hit home runs but it nearly hit all bases. I like how everyone was like "OH MY GOD Green Day have sold out; they're only releasing shit to make money".

Ahhhh, bitches, PLEASE.

SOURCE AND STATISTICS PLEASE.

Considering just in the U.S. alone none of the three albums have gone gold dos sold only 69k first week for a new band it'd be respectful numbers but for a band like Green Day they are horrible numbers to industry people

I still think the trilogy wasnt meant for new fans it was meant for the die hard loyal fans...

[Crimpshrine]

They are Sellouts!

[musso_kn]

They are Sellouts!

You have a peculiar sense of humour.

[Crimpshrine]

You have a peculiar sense of humour.

I know!

[fromdecimateddreams]

Like a lot of people have said, I think they'd be more out there again if they made a single out of a song on Tre.

That album is loaded with songs that are great single-material, and it's kind of disappointing that all they did for X-Kid was that "video" type thing (I understand why they did that given the circumstances, but still).

[AfterShock]

Ashley isn't really any less radio friendly than Longview, Geek Stink Breath, Brain Stew, Hitchin A Ride, American Idiot etc.

Agree to disagree I guess

[Iva]

And? Just because it's Christian musicians throwing their question into the matter doesn't mean they can't be involved. They ask, we answer, no different than any other individual/body getting involved.

I did not mean to bash it for being Christian (though what is considered Christian in an eastern Orthodox country has nothing to do with what's portrayed by major media in USA), I just assumed they'd normally be into early Evanescence, early Katy Perry, Amy Grant or something like that. And I laughed because kids were accusing me of liking "satan" some 18 years ago when I had a huge crush on Billie. Guess my mind works in strange ways, sorry if I had upset you!

Otherwise, about the bitches please part, I totally agree with you.

[Jhei Morisato]

For me, it's not being popular.

[Fish]

Not with me, but it's clear that ever since the iHeartradio thing the band's interest level has gone down. I didn't think the trilogy was up to usual Green Day standards. American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown were a lot better, but the trilogy was still better than a whole lot of the other shit you hear these days. I think they'll bounce back though, even though they are getting older. After Warning and before American Idiot, a lot of people seemed to think they were done. Well how'd that turn out? I think they still have a lot more to give and put out there. Their best days are probably behind them sadly, but that doesn't mean they can't put out another album that re-ignites the Green Day spark, if you will.

[Bastard of 1967]

Christian music site posted this today.

"Green Day is back in the studio working on new music and is back touring again, it just doesn't seem that there is the same interest for the band.

Of course they will always have a strong cult following of fans, it just might be on a small scale than the massive success they had for the last several years."

Read more:

http://breathecast.christianpost.com/articles/green-day-billy-joes-meltdown-dissapointment-uno-8929/

Creatively, the trilogy is an excellent set of albums. Musically and production-wise it's also one (three!?) of their best. Lyrically it has some outstanding songs and a few that are uncharacteristically so-so, and a script or screenwriter could/should have been brought in to knit the songs together more tightly from a conceptual standpoint.....but I'll blame those oversights on Billie being half off the deep end during the latter part of the trilogy's creative period. The promotion was a train wreck -- derailed, in part, by Warner marketing's idiotic decisions and equally in part by Billie going into rehab and scrubbing 6 months of tour dates right as the promotion efforts were kicking into high gear. So both the band (particularly Billie) and Warner marketing all have themselves to blame for the trilogy underperforming commerically.

That being said, there's another important factor: Green Day has both aged and evolved. They're not punk, they're not pop-punk. If you have to pigeonhole them into any particular genre, they're pure Rock'n'Roll now, and particularly heavy on the guitar-driven rock front. Commercially, this genre is dormant bordering on extinct -- with the mass market craving for God knows what reasons the voxcoded, focus-group-driven, computer-produced likes of Demi Levato, Taylor Swift, fun., and (retch) PSY. Without much room for alternative rock on the radio anymore, it's simply very hard to find a thriving commercial audience for rock/classic-rock bands like Green Day . It's not that their music isn't still great -- it sure is. Instead it's that for reasons I don't think anyone can figure out, the timing isn't right -- which is another way of saying there just aren't that many fresh faces who enjoy that kind of music right now. Eventually the pendulum will swing again, Rock will rise again as a popular genre, and Green Day's music will strike a nerve again, so please don't count them either down or out.

[karma1215]

I didn't know a Christian site listened to Green Day...

[Gwen Stacy]