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Anyone else think Billie need's to play a bit more when live?


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Looking at concert footage online, Billie only really plays a few choruses in songs, Jason plays the rest like the solos. Not complaining about Jason, but I think Billie needs to stop Jumping around with the mic a tad and play like he used to. Why can't they be a 3 piece again? Or even for the old songs, can they not play them like they used to instead of Jason playing half of every song?

Just my opinion, but I want to know whats others think!

Thanks, nim

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Them playing as a 3 piece sounds worse live in my opinion. It'd sound grand in smaller venues, but when you're playing wembley stadium you need to flesh out the sound a bit.

I don't really care if Billie lets Jason play lead most of the time, he needs to focus on crowd interaction and that's what makes their live shows so great really.

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Green Day's music is great, hearing them play it live is amazing. But 50% of the awesome show is that Billie Joe can get as involved as he wants with the crowd and interact. So many bands can't live up to that performance because they just play their music while Green Day puts on an event.

Jason, Jason Freese and Jeff are all incredible musicians, and I love that they're part of the live show.

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i don't understand why this bothers people. Green day puts on a fantastic live show, that's all that matters to me.

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The way I see it now, there are 3 types of live fans:

1) The fans who want to see the old trio and old tricks, nothing more

2) The fans who enjoy the band's performance no matter what they do

3) The girls who think that screaming loud enough or flailing wildly enough will make any of the guys want to fuck their brains out

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i don't understand why this bothers people. Green day puts on a fantastic live show, that's all that matters to me.

This is exactly how I feel!

I really dont care who's playing what, It's awesome that Billie can interact with the crowd and I think that makes it 10 times better.

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I have never been to a live show, so I can't really give an opinion on it. The ones I've seen video of look awesome. My friends like to rag on me because of Billie's prancing around and not playing as much as he could which they like to attribute to him being untalented, so in that sense I wish he would play more just so they would shut up, but I think all the other musicians that perform with GD live are amazing and deserve as much recognition.

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Billie choosing to participate less in the physically strumming and more in the audience interaction is 100% why they've been named one of the best live performances in the world today. And I don't really have a problem with that.

If I wanted to see them play as a 3-piece again, I'd dig up old Youtube videos. Their content in music has changed, just like their live performance. So kudos to the people that got the chance to see them back in the day, or who get to see the exclusive rare view these days. But I'll take what I can get, and I'm quite happy with it no matter what kind of performing it is.

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It wouldn't be a bad thing if Billie could play more, but you know... he plays the majority of the songs (or some parts). Now they need the extra guitars, or the songs couldn't sound that great. I don't have any problem with their live performance :shy: Besides, the classics are played only by him, Mike and Tré.

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i don't understand why this bothers people. Green day puts on a fantastic live show, that's all that matters to me.

I agree. To be honest, I don't think he'd be as good a frontman if he was playing the guitar more. It allows him to keep a balance between an overactive singer and a boring guitar player. It mixes things up

It also opens the door for letting crowd members play the guitar, which is interesting to say the least. :happy:

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I think he's struck a good balance. I remember so many awesome moments watching Billie play guitar at the shows I went to, didn't feel like any shortage of it. Having that extra freedom to move around the stage and be the wonderful, energetic, silly showman he is with no restriction has made them even better live. You just can't beat the interaction and connection he has with the crowd now and if he didn't have that extra freedom that would suffer. The show wouldn't be as entertaining if he had to stick with his guitar all the time, just as it wouldn't be as entertaining if he gave up the guitar altogether. I think they've got it right.

Plus I actually really like the old songs having that extra sound/power from having two guitars playing them instead of one. The songs still have the same feeling and meanings they always did but the band has evolved and so has the way they play live. I think it's really cool to hear those old songs the "new" way.

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It'd be pretty hard...no, impossible to play AI and 21CB stuff as a 3-piece live. Jason White's been their lead guitarist live since 1999, and rightly so. He's a better guitarist imo and his presence frees Billie up to run around, interact with the crowd, and generally channel Freddie Mercury throughout the set. Just look at the bands where the frontman is also a lead instrumentalist. Muse, for example. Matthew Bellamy is a great guitarist, one of the best out there today, but he really doesn't interact with the crowd at all during concerts. Billie Joe is free to run around, sing and goof off with the audience while knowing that Jason and Jeff have guitar more or less covered, and their live shows benefit greatly from it.

Totally this. I think that Billie Joe is fine with what he's been doing live. I like him running around on stage and having great communication with the crowd. If Billie played a lot of lead guitar, he wouldn't be able to do as much of that cool stuff he does on stage because he would have to concentrate on what he was playing.

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Also the best live shows in the history of the world are Foxies shows and the Rev doesn't even play guitar at all :D

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You can't please everyone all the time and I think they've struck a good balance between 'showy' things and straight playing (although I could perhaps live without a few of the ayyyyy oooohs). I'm sure if it didn't work, neither he or the rest of the band would do it. I went to see the Arctic Monkeys a month after Green Day and I don't think you realise at the time the effort that goes into the shows and the amount of experience they've got.

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I watched a Muse live DVD once (Wembley I think) and was so surprised at how aside from the pit, the crowd weren't really getting into it. I think that was probably because instead of talking to the crowd or running around or looking like he had a lot of energy, Matt Bellamy, the front man, just played the songs really. I mean, he didn't completely ignore them or anything - but it was a far cry from Billie's stage antics. It just adds to the atmosphere, I think. Who wants to go see a band live when all they do is stand there and play? I'd much rather go see a show.

Bellamy moved around a lot while playing from what I remember of watching their dvd. :P He's not the greatest for interacting with the crowd, but he does have a great voice and stage presense while playing live. I know what you mean though about watching bands basically turning up for the paycheck *cough* Kings of Leon *cough*. You go to a concert to see a show, Green Day and Muse are two bands who'll always give you that.

I like the fact that Billie isn't worrying about having to play every note or solo to perfection, if he had to do that he wouldn't be able to enjoy himself as much or be as spontaneous as he is during a lot of shows. He'd need an extra pair of hands if he had to play all of the guitar parts by himself while still trying to make sure the crowd is having a good time.

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I like the fact that Billie isn't worrying about having to play every note or solo to perfection, if he had to do that he wouldn't be able to enjoy himself as much or be as spontaneous as he is during a lot of shows. He'd need an extra pair of hands if he had to play all of the guitar parts by himself while still trying to make sure the crowd is having a good time.

Me too. Billie's never been about playing perfectly or showing off his guitar skills (although he certainly does have guitar skills). He used to take the piss out of that idea, playing one note or a load of random untuneful notes and then taking a bow and getting the crowd to applaud him for it. I love that old quote of his about their live shows "They don't need to hear a 15 minute cocaine wank guitar fest and we don't give it to them" :lol:. Being entertaining and fun has always been the priority, not showing off how good he is at playing. Bringing in Jason to free him up for more crowd interaction seems like a totally natural progression from there.

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I love that old quote of his about their live shows "They don't need to hear a 15 minute cocaine wank guitar fest and we don't give it to them" :lol:.

Hahaha, that's a great quote. :lol:

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I think when he plays more he doesn't move around as much because he can't walk around the stage, play guitar, and sing all at once. So by him playing less guitar he moves around more and it's not just a shows where they play some songs and it's done. There's a reason they put on a good show. (I don't think any of that made any sence)

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Looking at concert footage online,

Just curious - have you ever seen them live?

Watching GD's live performance online and seeing them in real life... there's obviously just no comparison.

I honestly don't see how GD's live show could be improved. I've seen them so many times, and it just never, ever gets old because it's all so spontaneous and filled with energy - a lot of which comes from Billie running around on stage and connecting with the audience.

And he does play most of the older songs on guitar, which is awesome. Jason Freese and aren't on stage for a lot of the time when 'Blue' is out. I think the balance of him playing vs him not playing is perfect, personally.

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and generally channel Freddie Mercury throughout the set.

Exactly. Nothin' wrong with that. (Although I think he gets a little excessive with the 'heeeeeey ohs.' I mean, Freddie Mercury's Hey Oh's are played every day at every Baseball stadium in America to get the crowd going, and he only did it once a concert. But I digress.

Hasn't Billie himself said that he gets nervous on guitar solos and isn't that comfortable with it, preferring not to? I feel like I read that somewhere, which is interesting consider initially he didn't consider himself a 'singer' either, just wanted to be the guitarist. :blink:

On a different note, after seeing him play with Rocky on the piano, it might be cool if once in a while Billie played some piano live, if only for a little bit at the beginning of the appropriate songs.

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Nah i love the way he jumps around.

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Nah i love the way he jumps around.

agreed,

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Green Day's music is great, hearing them play it live is amazing. But 50% of the awesome show is that Billie Joe can get as involved as he wants with the crowd and interact. So many bands can't live up to that performance because they just play their music while Green Day puts on an event.

Jason, Jason Freese and Jeff are all incredible musicians, and I love that they're part of the live show.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

And OP, I don't think that you'll be saying this when you want Billie to pull you up onstage. He can't do that if he's playing guitar the whole time, now can he? ;)

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The music is great and the energy is fantastic. what more could you want? I give no complaints

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Personally, I like the way Billie Joe play less guitar to take more time to entertain the crowd! It keeps the crowd jumping around and get crazy! That's what I like about their show! But I can understand your point of vue

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