Have Green Day lost Popularity

[iblamealex]

posted this in IC, but they're all fucking slow and mainly mentally deficient, so time to post it here haha

I'm not trying to pretend that they're anything other than massive, but 21st Century Breakdown hasn't sold nearly as well as American Idiot, and there were a number of empty seats at Wembley Stadium this summer, which, 5 years ago, would probably have been full if they'd played the venue. It may just be because in 2004/5, they very literally had the world at their feet, and were, for a period, easily the biggest band in the world. has the hype died down a bit, or have many of their fickle fans who jumped on the bandwagon all those years ago just moved on? They just don't really seem as big.

[kate_ochoxx]

Well to some extent

Some of my friends are acutlly asking me who Green Day is!

So yes they have gone down in my opinon but still amazing!

[Isabel]

posted this in IC, but they're all fucking slow and mainly mentally deficient

cheers.

No, they're not as popular as they were during the American Idiot area. This album hasn't been marketed as well and bands like Paramore and 30 Seconds to Mars are distractions to 'fickle' fans.

[farley drexel hatcher]

To me, I just don't feel like there's a big deal about any music anymore. Like massive bands will release albums with little hype; five years ago they'd be everywhere. I just think the way 'hype' is done these days is different. The music industry is changing in general.

And yeah, in '04 and '05 they were everyone's babies basically. A lot of those fans have moved on.

At the same time they've had a massive world tour that's played to almost sold out venues, areans and even stadiums so I really don't think they're doing too bad for themselves.

[TheSaltOfTheEarth]

oh, come on.

Yes they were huge in the AI era.

Yes they are still huge. Not as huge, because all the shitty fans have been weeded out.

Does it even matter, though? They're awesome, always have been, always will be and WE all know that. Who cares about anyone else?

[Vespertine]

They're obviously not as popular as they were 5 years ago, but they're still a famous band. I find it funny when people are like "What? Green Day's still a band? " as if they only existed during the AI era.

[Nickofsuburbia]

they've definitely lost some of their "power" i guess

i mean in 04/05 u couldnt turn on a radio station in the US without hearing Holiday or BOBD or American Idiot in some cases

but with 21stCB the biggest hit was 21 Guns and Know Your Enemy was only played on alt stations... sometimes. I only heard 21 Guns consistently on the radio for about a month, maybe.

then again it wasn't really Green Day's fault bc i think that the marketing and single choice for 21stCB was a lot weaker than AI's

also the message that was sent out with AI was stronger

during the Bush area lots and lots of people were unhappy with his leadership so it spoke to a lot more people and 21stCB just didn't have that message

[Empty Laughter]

They still are the biggest band in the world

How many records they sell doesn't matter.

[Opezi]

Well, Green Day is as big as you want them to be yknow. True fans arent going to leave them because they ditched the eyeliner and other AI stuff. So to all the real fans out there, they are still very popular and are still getting more and more fans. Besides the success of a band isn't based on popularity.

No matter how many people say they aren't popular anymore of whatever, I'mm stil going to love them as a band. Why would we care what anyone else says yknow. lol.

[bollard_11]

Music industry is a disgrace these days. We are living in a world where auto-tuned manufactured artists are worshiped, and real artists are neglected. Green Day and American Idiot are part of the 2004/2005 generation of teenagers. Most of those teenagers are now in their late teens / early 20s. Record companies aim for acts that appeal to the teenagers and kids as they are the most profitable market.

Thats why I believe Green Day are not as popular as they once were

[iblamealex]

it doesn't particularly matter to me; they're still absolutely massive but i do look on the days of bullet in a bible and the whole american idiot iconography (if that's the right word to use) with a certain reverence. it's nice to think that a band that mean so much to me mean the same, or at least a fraction of the same, to half the world as well.

Music industry is a disgrace these days. We are living in a world where auto-tuned manufactured artists are worshiped, and real artists are neglected. Green Day and American Idiot are part of the 2004/2005 generation of teenagers. Most of those teenagers are now in their late teens / early 20s. Record companies aim for acts that appeal to the teenagers and kids as they are the most profitable market.

Thats why I believe Green Day are not as popular as they once were

yeah but, on your point about the timescale and "generation of teenagers", you could say the same about muse, who released absolution in 2003 and black holes in 2006, and are arguably as popular as they ever have been, and possibly even more so.

[rinu]

It's good to lose some popularity.Real fans will always stay with them.I think.

[luvgirlcl]

I think that the 'political controversy' that surrounded the release of AI brought a lot of new people to Green Day's shows, but 21CB worked as a filter, leaving the fans that truly liked the band and their sound, while the others who just got interested in AI because of the 'social noise' it made (being an anti-war, anti-bush album). So the fans that go to the shows now and buy the records are the true fans, not the passing ones.

[iblamealex]

luvgirl, you have a point, but i don't remember there being a HUGE amount of controversy at the time, though i was only 8 or 9. it was more as if, instead of creating any kind of debate or controversy, it touched a real nerve that appealed to the world as a whole; after all, it's hard to recall much support for the bush administration. 21cb was badly timed in a way; a grandiosely pessimistic concept album about a socially apocalyptic america didn't really capture the cheerful zeitgeist of obama's election and the optimism that caused.

[Nickofsuburbia]

yeah but, on your point about the timescale and "generation of teenagers", you could say the same about muse, who released absolution in 2003 and black holes in 2006, and are arguably as popular as they ever have been, and possibly even more so.

well see the difference with that is those albums are only 3 yrs apart (as well as amazing) and AI and 21stCB were 5 years apart so all the teenagers that were old enough to know what real music is (like 16 yr olds) have passed the "Teenage Market" that the music industry targets so shit acts like Ke$ha get popular and great bands like Green Day and Motion City Soundtrack and Muse get little to no recognition

the industry is shit

[Kayfabe]

posted this in IC, but they're all fucking slow and mainly mentally deficient, so time to post it here haha

I'm not trying to pretend that they're anything other than massive, but 21st Century Breakdown hasn't sold nearly as well as American Idiot, and there were a number of empty seats at Wembley Stadium this summer, which, 5 years ago, would probably have been full if they'd played the venue. It may just be because in 2004/5, they very literally had the world at their feet, and were, for a period, easily the biggest band in the world. has the hype died down a bit, or have many of their fickle fans who jumped on the bandwagon all those years ago just moved on? They just don't really seem as big.

Come on, Wembley was 95% full.

And yeah of course they have lost popularity, simply because 21CB is not as popular as AI. And consequently, 21CB is not 'everywhere' like AI was.

[ParadoxAndPlaid]

Didn't we have a topic similar to this a few months back? it's still open, right?

EDIT:This one, this and this too. All pretty much same questions rephrased, lead to the some conversations.

[iblamealex]

can you be arsed to look, because i know i can't.

[Are We The Waiting?]

they are still big, it's just the people around me classify them as "old."

for example, these kids around my block used to play little concerts with all green day when they were from 8-13 in the AI era, and now they listen to rap and this pop trash.

its a shame really, but i know i'll always love green day for what they have done, and for what they do.

[Gwen Stacy]

To be blunt, yes. But we have lost the fickle fans who only liked Green Day for American Idiot. There were even a few in 2009 because of KYE and 21 Guns, who have moved on. Now we have a smaller, but more intense fanbase, and I think that's better than a larger but more fickle fanbase

[Teenage Kicks!]

posted this in IC, but they're all fucking slow and mainly mentally deficient, so time to post it here haha

What?

[Peace and Rainbows]

there not as popular because the fake fans went away

but the loyal fans stayed true

[Cym]

I really don't care how "popular" they are, seeing as I don't even really listen to popular music anymore these days. During the Bush administration it was a really tight Republican community, almost a dictatorship really, and anyone that was younger than a teen at the time cannot fully understand, sorry to say. So it was a big deal at the time, and people did create a big hype over American Idiot because of how outright rebellious it was. But after that, a lot of copycat bands, albums, and songs came out, so these days teens are really jaded to the whole "fuck Bush/Republicans" theme, especially if they weren't there to experience the danger being in the Green Day and punk-loving subculture caused in the mainstream in the first place.

If not EVERYONE is absolutely in love with Green Day these days, I just say fine, fuck 'em, more for me!

[Alan86]

They definitely aren't as popular as they were in 2005, but it's near impossible to keep that level of popularity. I don't even know if I would like it if they got back to that level of popularity again. I just want them to continue making new music for many more years

[Guest]

i don't think they are as big. not that they aren't still one of the biggest and most well known bands out there, they just definitely aren't as popular as they were back in 04 and 05. around here they're never really on the radio or on tv, and the number of people who i know, who like them, is really small.