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I was wondering, most of the singles that came from 21st Century Breakdown, are in American Idiot: The Musical.

Michael Mayer said that he got demo recordings of songs that were going to be on 21CB from Billie. Michael picked the songs that would fit in the musicals story, and then once the album was released, the singles that were coming out from 21CB were all the ones that Michael picked out. Is it possible that Billie was picking the songs that were going to be in the musical to start promoting the musical?

I just wanted your thoughts :) .

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i think that they just picked the "best" off of 21st Century Breakdown and went with it

(not that I agree with the singles they picked at all)

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Personally, I doubt it, considering neither 21st Century Breakdown or East Jesus Nowhere are featured, also Before the Lobotomy and Last Night on Earth aren't singles. I think Michael Mayer just happened to like songs that later became singles.

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right thats what i meant

they picked separately and just happened to pick some of the same songs

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Yeah but I always was wondering why they chose Know Your Enemy and 21 Guns first as singles.

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Yeah but I always was wondering why they chose Know Your Enemy and 21 Guns first as singles.

I remember Billie saying how he wanted the first single to introduce the new album to be KYE because people could easily wrap their head around it. It's kind of a BAM! song. I don't know. And as for 21 Guns, it's just a great song.

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Its a shame they picked the singles so badly.

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maybe because those singles from 21CB fit right into the plot of the musical.. idk

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No he didn't choose the singles.

Doesn't include: 21CB or EJN

Does include: Before the Lobotomy and Last Night on Earth (neither were singles)

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I remember Billie saying how he wanted the first single to introduce the new album to be KYE because people could easily wrap their head around it. It's kind of a BAM! song. I don't know. And as for 21 Guns, it's just a great song.

Yeah but if they wanted a BAM! song they should have picked something like Horseshoes and Handgrenades, don't get me wrong, I love 21CB, i just always thought that they singles choice were bad, and that this could maybe be why.

No he didn't choose the singles.

Doesn't include: 21CB or EJN

Does include: Before the Lobotomy and Last Night on Earth (neither were singles)

I'm not saying that he chose the singles, I'm just saying that that could have been some of the influence on band's choice.

Last of the American Girls,

Know Your Enemy,

21 Guns. 2 of which were the first singles.

And even though Before the Lobotomy wasn't a single, I think it actually was one of the contenders to be a single, I remember hearing something on YouTube about how they were playing that a lot at little shows before the album came out, and that it was one of the songs "to look out for".

EDIT: Nevermind what i said about Before the Lobotomy, I just looked up setlist, and I was wrong.

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I think they chose Last of the American Girls to sort of cross promote the album and musical, but other than that, I think they were pretty seperate.

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Know your enemy

21 Guns

East Jesus Nowhere

21st Century Breakdown

These were all great choices for singles.

The only sinlge choice that i didnt agree with was last of the american girls. I totally believe that was released to promote the musical further. The video was released around the same time as AI hit Broadway and they don't have the song as part of their setlist at their shows. It was preformed live with the musical cast to promote the musical too. So Last of the american girls was the only single used to promote AI in my opinion

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I think what happened is that Billie sent what he thought were the best songs on 21stCB to Michael Mayer.

And some of those happened to end up as singles, and some didn't, but they all ended up in the musical, maybe? I don't know.

And as for the actual choice, the singles are pretty good in my opinion. EJN, 21stCB and 21 Guns are all great. KYE...well...it's a pump-ass song, you can't deny that xD maybe a less-than-good first single choice.

As for LOTAG...well...I really don't understand that. Don't get me wrong, LOTAG is a great song. But there are SO many kick-ass songs on this record...why that one?

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Nah, I don't think so. I think they just chose what they thought were the best songs on 21cb

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I think they just chose songs they liked and would appeal to people the most. But I have no idea why they chose LOTAG. Should of chosen American Eulogy.

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For the musical they just added songs that suited the musical's story line, but what Green Day have actually released themselves I think they could of had better song choices from that album to release.But songs like East Jesus Nowhere (Which I believe is one of the better songs on the album) didn't get a good enough release, I felt as if it was like "Yeah, thats East Jesus Nowhere... yeah".... lol I'm struggling to express what I'm trying to say...

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I think they did deliberately pick songs that are in the musical as singles to help promote the musical. There's no way they just picked the best songs and they happened to be from the musical - how could you explain LOTAG getting a higher profile release than East Jesus Nowhere (or even being released at all) other than because it's in the musical?

The only two that aren't in the musical, East Jesus Nowhere and 21st CB, were given pathetic, low-key releases with little or no promotion. I mean come on, East Jesus Nowhere is the strongest song on that album and could've taken the world by storm. But instead it was given a half-arsed release and didn't even get a video so it stood no chance. Have we seen them promote/talk about anything to do with the album other than songs that are in the musical since the whole musical thing started last autumn? I don't think so. 21st CB and EJN were swept under the rug around that time and since then it's only been the musical or songs that are in the musical.

I'm all for them promoting the musical but it's a shame it had to come at the expense of the album. I wish there'd been a bit more balance between the two. I really feel like they wasted this album.

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Know your enemy

21 Guns

East Jesus Nowhere

21st Century Breakdown

These were all great choices for singles.

The only sinlge choice that i didnt agree with was last of the american girls. I totally believe that was released to promote the musical further. The video was released around the same time as AI hit Broadway and they don't have the song as part of their setlist at their shows. It was preformed live with the musical cast to promote the musical too. So Last of the american girls was the only single used to promote AI in my opinion

Really? I love(d) Last Of The American Girls, thought it was a great single choice... But at the same time I never expected it to be chosen.

I think Know Your Enemy was a bad choice for a first single, I mean as much as I love the song and all, but still.

I still think ¡Viva La Gloria! would've been one of, if not the best choices for a single... I could see an awesome video being made for that song, too.

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I actually never thought about it, but it's VERY possible. I mean, I was pretty disappointed with their choices. Specially LOTAG, now it makes sense, at least for that one choice...

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I really highly doubt it.

especially given the fact that the musical is only in America.

I mean, what's the point of promoting the musical to people who live on the other side of the world? unless they are diehard Green Day fans with access to money, they arent going to go see the musical.

who travels to the otherside of the world for that? :whistle

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I really highly doubt it.

especially given the fact that the musical is only in America.

I mean, what's the point of promoting the musical to people who live on the other side of the world? unless they are diehard Green Day fans with access to money, they arent going to go see the musical.

who travels to the otherside of the world for that? :whistle

:lol:

Oh well, I still think that was the reason why LOTAG was chosen as a single.

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IMHO Green Day should chose one more single because The Static Age is one of the best songs on the album but that's just my opinion.

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Really? I love(d) Last Of The American Girls, thought it was a great single choice... But at the same time I never expected it to be chosen.

I think Know Your Enemy was a bad choice for a first single, I mean as much as I love the song and all, but still.

I still think ¡Viva La Gloria! would've been one of, if not the best choices for a single... I could see an awesome video being made for that song, too.

Yup I really do think it was a bad choice. Lotag is 1 of 2 songs from 21cb that I don't love (the other being "See The Light") I definitely agree that viva la Gloria would have been a great choice as a single :)

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An interesting theory, but I don't think so either. There is some over lap but the influence of 21Cb on the musical is very minor. I would STILL like an explanation on why some of the singles were picked, (wouldn't we all?), but people who are consuming the singles aren't your typical theatre-goers, espcecially Berkley-theatre-goers. I wish that was a good explanation for Know Your Enemy, I'm embarassed every time somebody reminds me how annoying they find it.

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I'm embarassed every time somebody reminds me how annoying they find it.

yeah i know how that feels, it really was a terrible choice for the first single.

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