Bohemian+Scandal Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 I'm not right or left wing really, but I was curious. Considering Green Day's extremely liberal views I found myself wondering if a conservative Green Day fan can even exist. Wouldn't listening to their music (especially their later stuff) make them sort of...angry?I mean not just a casual listener but an actual fan. Do we have any Republicans on GDC?On this train of thought, can a kick ass song musically be tainted by lyrics you disagree with or that are generally unapealing? I find myself often not processing lyrics that are uggh and just listening to the melody. It makes it easy when the singer doesn't enunciate, but when the words are just stripped and clear....>_>I'm sorry if this has been threaded before, but I couldn't find anything in the search.
Kate Austen Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Uh..I originally was more conservative. But right now, I'm 100% Independent. I pretty much think both parties suck. Ideologically, I think I agree with the right on some issues (mostly fiscal and governmental issues) - but socially, I'm way more liberal. I think both parties have some good ideologies and points of view. However, I think the Dems have more right at the moment. Plus, even if you are republican, there is no doubt the party is a complete joke/mess. They are struggling so bad to unify and find a message that people can believe in. They are just all over the place.
Atticus Finch Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Yes. I have my core beliefs that I was raised with (and agree with, for those that may try to dub me as brainwashed). Listening to a lot of music these days would be difficult for someone with an extreme right-wing outlook. But it doesn't really bother me. I'm just not moved by other people's opinions as easily as others. It even makes me laugh sometimes.
mechanicalman Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 I became a Republican as soon as I saw Sarah Palin.
mmmcrazypills Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 I love Young Cons and O.I.L.http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001846/http://www.myspace.com/oil
Velocity Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 I was raised by Republican parents and I considered myself one up until a year or two ago. I didn't really have a problem with Green Day's lyrics, I knew they were just expressing their views. But now I consider myself an independent, because like Kate Austen said, I just think both parties suck. I wasn't influenced much politically, if at all by Green Day though. I came to my own conclusions through what I learned in school.
MassHysteria Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 I guarantee most other Utahn fans are. Not this one though.
Hermione Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 A lot of people aren't particularly interested in lyrics so I'd imagine there's plenty. And many people aren't bothered whether a band shares their views, they just like the music. Although of course if someone's singing something you can relate to, you're going to be more likely to enjoy their music. And much more likely to really get into their music so they become your favourite band. So obviously they'd have more liberal leaning fans on average, especially somewhere like this where you have to be a big enough fan to have joined a fan site.
Trotsky Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 Extremely liberal? That is hilarious. Green Day are in no way a leftist band. Even liberal is pushing the limits for a label. When they are writing political songs it generally reflects broad concepts and not militant politics - discontent with the state of the world is universal and the fact that Bush was a failure and the war in Iraq was a failure are facts and not liberal opinions - you don't see the republicans putting a medal on Bush like they still do for Reagan and there is a reason for that, he failed. American Idiot and Breakdown are both much more about personal problems that are reflected on the world stage. Take it from someone who actually listens to a lot of leftist bands, Green Day's lyrics are not politically radical. That being said, I am sure Green Day has many listeners on the right, point being Green Day are not political by nature, politics just come into songs as naturally as sex and drugs can. But even a song like 21 Guns is far more personal than poltical.
Greenday_Aussie Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 It seems that the Republicans are what we call the "Labor" party here, and the Liberals..are well, Liberals here. Labor sucks big time, they have fucked up everytime they are in power. But at the moment, the Republicans are like the Liberals, in a fucking mess.So I guess if I was American, Id be a Liberal, well, I am an Aussie Liberal anyway.
Peace and Rainbows Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 I have a very conservitive friend who absolutly loves green day:)
MrGreenDayUK Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 I would take liberal and left to mean different things; the blurring between left and liberal in the US confuses me.I would consider myself left-wing, definitely, but maybe less liberal than a year ago. I would call myself an evolutionary socialist, towards the left of that particular spectrum (although I don't agree with Marxism). I have some socially liberal views- homosexuality, immigration and to a lesser extent drug use- but liberalism as an ideology is something I disagree with.The core of liberalism is social atomism; whereby society is comprised purely of a group of individuals, each pursuing their own aims and pleasure, rather than a cohesive group (something that I don't believe in, nor do I agree that it should be facilitated). So liberalism is based around freedom to do as one wishes without state intervention. Fine, but when those actions affect others as well that's wrong. Now liberalism supposedly guards against that, but classical liberals and neo-liberals believe in a completely deruegulated economy, which for me is wrong as well.My point being, Margaret Thatcher was an extreme liberal - complete market economy, 'there is no such thing as society', and she is generally seen as being very right-wing. While in the US an extreme liberal would be considered very left-wing. It's an interesting use of vocabulary, I guess.
Miqui_Dee Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 My friend and her parents are all giant Green Day fanatics and are Republicans. But they are pretty lax Republicans. I didn't even know they were Republicans until this past election and a discussion about the candidates came up.
NowhereBound Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 My parents are republican, and they are conservative...does that count? lol But, no really I think when I'm older I'll be a republican and a diehard Green Day fan, as weird as that is.
christian-anderson-1992 Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 I became a Republican as soon as I saw Sarah Palin. Lmao.
**nobodylikesyou** Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 I have a very conservitive friend who absolutly loves green day:)ditto♥
Dylan. Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 To me, there is so much that goes into forming a political opinion. There were so many Green Day fans that came into light when American Idiot came out and in order to be accepted into the crowd of Green Day fans, spread all this Anti-Bush propaganda. They didn't research the facts for them selves and ended up looking really stupid. You would ask them why they hated President Bush and they would say ,"Because he's stupid." Nobody understands just how damaging the faults in Bush's presidency were. The fact is, the main reason we look at President Bush as a failure is because of a single mistake that ended up costing us billions of dollars. After September the 11th, the country was in such a state of shock and awe and anger that we really weren't taking notice into what the Bush administration did. The only thing we cared about was holding somebody responsible. When the Bush administration went into Iraq and acted all big and tough and telling them to get rid of their WMD's, the country reacted with this psychotic form of patriotism that was closer to Fascism them anything. It was a time of great unrest. All of our judgments were clouded. The thing that caused all this war and turmoil was our inability to see this problem coming from a million miles away. That's why everybody took all that interest in President Obama. He claims that he foresaw the Iraq War and all this, but the fact is, he was just one of many that didn't like the idea of invading a country based off of obviously inaccurate findings of their WMD's. I am not a fan of any Washington politician. Not a single one of them hasn't been corrupted by the damn system. Nobody is immune from it, and the only thing that keeps me sane is the knowledge that I am aware of it. That's all American Idiot was supposed to do. It brought it to your attention. But too many people jumped on the bandwagon without knowing the facts for themselves. Those that did that failed the country.
Peel Slowly And See Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 On this train of thought, can a kick ass song musically be tainted by lyrics you disagree with or that are generally unapealing?One In A Million - Guns N' Roses
Lauren Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 I'm not a hard core Christian, but I'm really pissed that Christians were booed one of their concerts.
Hermione Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 ^Really? I didn't know about that, what did you hear happened?
dumbell2424 Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 I have a very conservitive friend who absolutly loves green day:)Same here. One of the most conservative people I know (AND I LIVE IN GEORGIA!) just simply loves Green Day. She feels that good music=good music and you don't have to share political views to understand that.
captain peroxide Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Extremely liberal? That is hilarious. Green Day are in no way a leftist band. Even liberal is pushing the limits for a label. When they are writing political songs it generally reflects broad concepts and not militant politics - discontent with the state of the world is universal and the fact that Bush was a failure and the war in Iraq was a failure are facts and not liberal opinions - you don't see the republicans putting a medal on Bush like they still do for Reagan and there is a reason for that, he failed. American Idiot and Breakdown are both much more about personal problems that are reflected on the world stage. Take it from someone who actually listens to a lot of leftist bands, Green Day's lyrics are not politically radical.I wonder if Green Day's aware of this?
Muttweed182 Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 There probably are but I'm a liberal and a green day fan and that makes the political songs more enjoyable because I can connect to it so well.
Angela. Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Well, I'm a liberal myself, and so are my parents and grandparents. I'm not too sire about my other relatives... But I do know some conservative people from my school who like a couple of Green Day songs. I wouldn't exactly call them fans, but they still like a little bit of GD's music.
Velocity Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 I'm not a hard core Christian, but I'm really pissed that Christians were booed one of their concerts.They did? That's not cool.
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