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924Nimrod

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Hey guys, I haven't been on the fourms in a while. I dunno why, but I just haven't.

So does anyone know why Billie Joe is back to using to yellow Les Paul Jr.? I know he lost his deal with Gibson and they stopped making the signature model. I gotta say, that was the first thing I noticed at the Fox Theater show. (Although the double-cut is tuned down a half-step.)

Also does anyone know what the guitar situation was for the album? I'm hearing some different tones than previous albums, most notably American Idiot.

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Jack96 Dominated Love Slave

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Someof the songs are yes half step down but he used a few different gibsons including Slash Goldtop sig model fo rthe album and a fender and a gretsch hollowbody i think is what he said in his interview

Greenday_Aussie Insomniac

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Um, since when did they stop making his Junior model?

He isnt "back" using the yellow model. Its new, its a Custom shop (since there arent any USA TV Yellow ones) I think your thinking of the old fully yellow one from the Warning days with the humbucker. BTW, he never used the Signature model onstage, only vintage ones. Now hes using new ones :)

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oh so that's i haven't saw him play with his signature Les Paul. i forgot about the whole Gibson dropping the deal with Billie

i've seen Billie play 'Blue' for 21st Century Breakdown a couple of times

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oh so that's i haven't saw him play with his signature Les Paul. i forgot about the whole Gibson dropping the deal with Billie

i've seen Billie play 'Blue' for 21st Century Breakdown a couple of times

its tuned a half step down, so on songs that recuires it he do.

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Album: Rhythm parts: Floyd and a '52 Fender Esquire (mashed together) and occasionally a Les Paul '92 reiusse or something, pretty sure it's a Standard. He used Les Paul Customs (most notably the Jimmy Page and Slash signature models) for solos and stuff. He also used a Gretsch for some parts, and a Yairi acoustic

Tour: The TV Yellow LP Junior, a Gibson Jumbo acoustic (the only other two i've seen of the same kind was used by Dave Grohl and Roger Daltry), at first, an LP Junior doublecut for half-step down songs, now Blue. He uses Floyd on some of the songs off AI, I think. :)

Mitch-PTV Pedestrian

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Um, since when did they stop making his Junior model?

He isnt "back" using the yellow model. Its new, its a Custom shop (since there arent any USA TV Yellow ones) I think your thinking of the old fully yellow one from the Warning days with the humbucker. BTW, he never used the Signature model onstage, only vintage ones. Now hes using new ones :)

im fair confident that the double cut he has been using is a vintage 50's (or 60's) model. Gibson used to make them as part of their USA series but they droped them about a decade ago.

contrary to popular believe, Billie does not use his signature model. not too many artists do.

as for his other guitars, the usual setup really.

a couple of Jr's, a Les paul standard or too, blue, and a Gretsch 6120 "Nashville" (they have been renamed chet atkins now) which he has gone to town with (mods include: taped F holes, P-90 pickups, maple reinforcements inside the body, new tuners, removed all controlls besides the master volume)

Hermione Best Thing In Town

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I know nothing about guitars. But there was a great interview with Billie in Guitar World the other day and he talked quite a lot about the guitars he used there, so maybe you'd find it interesting. If you feel like reading it there a link to the scans here, in the OP (they're not in order but you can go by page numbers):

http://www.greendaycommunity.org/Forum/ind...showtopic=69762

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Album: Rhythm parts: Floyd and a '52 Fender Esquire (mashed together) and occasionally a Les Paul '92 reiusse or something, pretty sure it's a Standard. He used Les Paul Customs (most notably the Jimmy Page and Slash signature models) for solos and stuff. He also used a Gretsch for some parts, and a Yairi acoustic

Tour: The TV Yellow LP Junior, a Gibson Jumbo acoustic (the only other two i've seen of the same kind was used by Dave Grohl and Roger Daltry), at first, an LP Junior doublecut for half-step down songs, now Blue. He uses Floyd on some of the songs off AI, I think. :)

Grohl doesn't use the Jumbo. At least not in the Afoostic tour and ESPG tour

Jack96 Dominated Love Slave

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Grohl doesn't use the Jumbo. At least not in the Afoostic tour and ESPG tour

I still thnk thats a good name Afoostic

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I don't believe Gibson has dropped the BJA signature model at all!

BJ just gave a white one to Conan on the Tonight Show last night. :)

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he lost his deal with gibson? but he just gave Conan OBrien one of his signature models. and he used to play his signature model onstage all the time. whenever he is playing a white LP Jr. its his signature model. i dont think Gishon makes any other LP Jr. in classic white.

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Um, since when did they stop making his Junior model?

He isnt "back" using the yellow model. Its new, its a Custom shop (since there arent any USA TV Yellow ones) I think your thinking of the old fully yellow one from the Warning days with the humbucker. BTW, he never used the Signature model onstage, only vintage ones. Now hes using new ones :)

Where did you hear he was using brand new guitars? Most artists who make enough money would always choose genuine vintage guitars over modern reissues

Jack96 Dominated Love Slave

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he lost his deal with gibson? but he just gave Conan OBrien one of his signature models. and he used to play his signature model onstage all the time. whenever he is playing a white LP Jr. its his signature model. i dont think Gishon makes any other LP Jr. in classic white.

Read the post above the one im replying to of yours.

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If all of you who dont believe me about Billie using New Juniors, look at the onstage pics of the TV Yellow single cut AND double cut. The Q pictures are the best to look at, there isnt a scratch on them, theres no way they are vintage. There is no checking either, and most (if not all) guitars from the "Vintage era" check.

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yes he does not use his signature often these days, i think he regrets having stacked p90s rather than regular ones.

he uses a mix of new reissues and vintage guitars.

Gibson have not discontinued his signature, but they also sell regular les paul juniors in white.

I didnt see the yellow guitar you are taking about, but if its new it could be a customshop historic les paul junior in TV yellow. I know he has tons of them

Mitch-PTV Pedestrian

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those white LP jrs arent his sig model.

gibson used to (and they do once again) make white jrs.

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If all of you who dont believe me about Billie using New Juniors, look at the onstage pics of the TV Yellow single cut AND double cut. The Q pictures are the best to look at, there isnt a scratch on them, theres no way they are vintage. There is no checking either, and most (if not all) guitars from the "Vintage era" check.

There are plenty of guitars from the 50s that have been kept in absolute PRISTINE condition... these kind of guitars are ones you will never see on eBay

Where are people getting the info that he is using new custom shop guitars? Do you realize how poor in quality those guitars are in comparison to guitars made 50 years ago? Mahogany back then was MUCH better, and was not in scarcity like it is today. Nowadays, they make guitars with multiple pieces of wood glued together, and Gibson is resorting to the "chambering" method to compensate for the poor quality in some of their woods. Gibson saves all their good wood for their most expensive guitars. I can tell you the BJ definitely didn't buy a run-of-the-mill custom shop guitar... IF he is using anything new, then he definitely had Gibson make him a good one. But I highly doubt would use new guitars.

those white LP jrs arent his sig model.

gibson used to (and they do once again) make white jrs.

If you ever see a white LP jr from the 50s, it's most likely that it is a sun-faded TV Yellow. This is actually what BJ used to use, as that white LP jr had more of a cream color to it, rather than a TV white.

Greenday_Aussie Insomniac

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Im sorry but you cant find a guitar that looks that good. Ive seen plenty of vintage Gibsons through My Les Paul forums and Dave's Guitars.

http://gallery.qthemusic.com/gallery/green...9c/Default.aspx

Heres a good little indication, PURE white tuners, this isnt possible on a vintage guitar if it was kept under the bed and never used.

Heres the single cut to the right...

http://gallery.qthemusic.com/gallery/green...0d/Default.aspx

Same deal, here we can see the very shiney brand new looking stop bar tailpiece.

Billie has hundreds of vintage guitars, Im sure he wanted to try a few newies for a change. CS guitars are fantastic quality, unlike their USA counterparts...

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http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107319

That's not even the half of it. Try contacting "BCRGreg" and ask him about ALL his juniors.

BTW, those are terrible angles, and the "white buttons" and "shiny bridge" are terrible arguments. See the pictures in the thread I linked to. If anything, I've seen guitars that look much better than what BJ is playing in those pictures. I've talked with dozens of vintage collectors and people who have worked at Gibson since they made the junior, and they'll tell you how incredibly possible it is to keep those guitars in mint condition... Now more than ever since everyone is really starting to take care of their own stuff ever since people have been making small fortunes of things like baseball cards in the attic.

This isn't about whether or not he's using new guitars... But if you're going to make that assumption based off the fact that you don't think vintage guitars can look like new, then you really shouldn't count your chickens before they hatch

Mitch-PTV Pedestrian

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^^^ pretty much everything this man has said is correct.

Mr Soup, i tip my hat to you.

Billies guitars are vintage, and i seriously doubt that anyone could get sick of a vintage les paul.

the custom shop guitars are better than the USA models, but even those are nothing to brag about quality wise. atleast Jrs cant be chambered. they are kinda forced to use decent wood in that respect.

its good to see billie with a Brian setzer hotrod aswell (in those pics that matt linked to)

its got the P-90 and taped f holes aswell by the look of it. the guitar already has trestle bracing so i doubt he got it reinforced.

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