Disappearing girl Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/...een-day-murdoch
norcalgreendayfan Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 Well that was an interesting diatribe by the Guardian
Ila Reto Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 i can't understand if this is a good or bad review...the article itself seems okay, they called it a "masterpiece" and i think was just pissed about The Sun. but the feedback from other people, is really nothing short of what we've all seen already. oh well, not everyone can like them.
MusicalDeviant Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 Well who cares what the English think?Best Comment:"beppesignori11 May 09, 3:23pmI hate all this 'sell out' crap, just becuase bands sign to major labels doesn't mean they have sold out their identity or ethics. Rage Against the Machine are signed to a major - hardly sell outs. Tom Morello:"We're not interested in preaching to just the converted. It's great to play abandoned squats run by anarchists, but it's also great to be able to reach people with a revolutionary message, people from Granada Hills to Stuttgart".Whether Green Day's music is to your taste or not, they came from the West Coast punk scene, became so popular that in the words of Mike Dirnt:"we were so big that tons of people were showing up at punk-rock clubs, and some clubs were even getting shut down because too many were showing up. We had to make a decision: either break up or remove ourselves from that element..Whether you like them or not, they're not Disney Punk akin to McFly, they're a punk rock band who accidentally got huge, bit like Nirvana when they signed to Geffen. The band have evolved and taken big risks with their musical direction.And if they want to take money from a right wing newspaper to stream their message opposing right wing media to their own (huge) audience, good for them."
Disappearing girl Posted May 24, 2009 Author Posted May 24, 2009 i can't understand if this is a good or bad review...the article itself seems okay, they called it a "masterpiece" and i think was just pissed about The Sun. but the feedback from other people, is really nothing short of what we've all seen already. oh well, not everyone can like them.Yeah, I think you're right... I think they're highlighting tho' that "Green Day" (tho' I reckon the band members themselves had nothing to do with it really - do they even know The Sun?!) was being inconsistent with their brand by marketing their album in that way... I think it's more subtle than an open 'blast' ... it suggesting inconsistency, maybe verging on hypocrisy here. It's a good read in any case.
norcalgreendayfan Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 Yeah, I think you're right... I think they're highlighting tho' that "Green Day" (tho' I reckon the band members themselves had nothing to do with it really - do they even know The Sun?!) was being inconsistent with their brand by marketing their album in that way... I think it's more subtle than an open 'blast' ... it suggesting inconsistency, maybe verging on hypocrisy here. It's a good read in any case.In a sense you are right, the simple breakdown is the Guardian was calling out the fact that Green Day has spoken out against Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Network in American Idiot but now had the album streamed on The Sun's page in England which is owned as well by Rupert Mudoch and being a Conservative outlet much in the same way as Fox News is in America so The Guardian is accusing them of being hypcrites in something I am not sure that the band had full knowledge of what kind of paper The Sun is and more to the fact a decision the record label had in chosing that outlet for the album to be streamed in the UK and definately more power to Green Day for using a right wing site to bring out their message of anti right wing views to the masses
Marlon_GD Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 In a sense you are right, the simple breakdown is the Guardian was calling out the fact that Green Day has spoken out against Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Network in American Idiot but now had the album streamed on The Sun's page in England which is owned as well by Rupert Mudoch and being a Conservative outlet much in the same way as Fox News is in America so The Guardian is accusing them of being hypcrites in something I am not sure that the band had full knowledge of what kind of paper The Sun is and more to the fact a decision the record label had in chosing that outlet for the album to be streamed in the UK and definately more power to Green Day for using a right wing site to bring out their message of anti right wing views to the massesThere are multiple " . " keys on your keyboard, and yet you still managed to avoid all of them in that post...
norcalgreendayfan Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 There are multiple " . " keys on your keyboard, and yet you still managed to avoid all of them in that post...Well sorry for my lack of punctuation.
Hermione Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 LOL! Any excuse for them to trash The Sun.I would hardly put The Sun on a par with Fox News, it's only moderately right-wing. And who said Green Day were militantly against these things anyway, just because they question something that doesn't mean they're signed up to some kind of cause. Not that The Guardian care about Green Day in any way, this was just a prime Sun knocking opportunity.
Sharmellow Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 i can't understand if this is a good or bad review...the article itself seems okay, they called it a "masterpiece" and i think was just pissed about The Sun. but the feedback from other people, is really nothing short of what we've all seen already. oh well, not everyone can like them.Yeah, I have to agree. I couldn't really tell if it was a good or bad review. :/ It must be edging towards good though since they called it a masterpiece.
Hermione Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Nah it's not meant to be a review. It's just an article about the fact they used The Sun to promote their album.
SOMERTEN Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 I agree with what the paper is saying regarding the Sun newspaper, but it may not have been the band that decided to have the album available in the paper. The record company were looking for the best outlet in the UK to reach most people and the Sun has the most readers. Without that link people in the UK wouldn't have heard the album before release as the US links never work.I like the part where the article goes on to say the album will be looked on as a classic in years to come, comletely agree!
Hermione Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 ^Yeah, I'd bet of you asked the band whether or not their album was streamed in the UK by The Sun newspaper, they wouldn't have a clue. And nor would they care. It's a ridiculous article.
Alan86 Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 If you think thats a bad review, read this onehttp://newsblaze.com/story/20090525151122k...b/topstory.htmlThis guy had already decided he did not want to like the album before he listened to it.What a tool!! I didn't want to give this a thread of its own cause it does not deserve one.
Hermione Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 If you think thats a bad review, read this onehttp://newsblaze.com/story/20090525151122k...b/topstory.htmlThis guy had already decided he did not want to like the album before he listened to it.What a tool!! I didn't want to give this a thread of its own cause it does not deserve one.LOL that guy sounds like he's having an episode, he needs to calm down. Very strange."I sure hope my piece decreases their unit sales."Good luck with that
SOMERTEN Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 What a shame this moron never listened to American Idiot as it was written especially for people like him. Someone should slap him on the head and send him back to school as he obviously never completed his education.
IscoredWaddlesgoals Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 Was that newsblaze review a spoof ? Surely people that stupid can't actually exist ?
SOMERTEN Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 Was that newsblaze review a spoof ? Surely people that stupid can't actually exist ?If only, someone must be buying the eminem record!
Guitar4Girl Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 Well who cares what the English think? Not all English will think like that. I'm English and I certainly don't think that...Not the best review, but at least they realise that this album will be a classic in years to come. You don't think it could also be a bit of rivalry between the two newspapers?
tuwlol Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 I got a Google news alert that was like,Green Day Media RowClashMusic.com - London,London,UKMillionaire American punks Green Day have been left stunned after being heavily criticised for signing a deal with The Sun, despite their apparent ...And it sounded really bad. But this isn't bad. Not really.I agree with whoever started the whole maybe the band's not responsible..it was probably damn Reprise..not even probably, it WAS Reprise.Or whatever their record label is. I think someone should write an article criticizing them.
Guitar4Girl Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 ^ Isn't it Warners? They messed up a bit with the KYE release too...
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