Could there be another "goal"...

[rizzo]

...that Billie, Mike and Tre haven't mentioned?

Listening to all the recent interviews lately and reading all the recent articles about where these guys' heads were at with the creating/writing process, recording and now performing 21st Century Breakdown - I have been truly amazed and impressed with the ongoing "themes" that they have been constantly mentioning: patience, work ethic, inspiration, influences, listening to "a lot of vinyl", etc.

I don't have to go on. All you guys have been reading the same articles and watching the same interviews I have.

But, check out an article I came across today at cnn.com titled, "What Will Save Rock n' Roll?"

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/05/2...rock/index.html

Then, check out Steve Van Zandt's Speech titled, "A Crisis of Craft".

http://www.littlestevensundergroundgarage....hdoc/index.html

...Now, hmm, are you guys thinkin' what I'm thinkin'? Because I think we might have the answer to a better worded question, "WHO will save Rock n' Roll?"

*I'd kind of like to find out if there's a way I can send these articles to the guys... any help?

[Starbug]

What?

[bass boy]

huh?

[amy_runs]

Yes.

[captain peroxide]

Could you please at least clarify what you're getting at? Expecting people to come to the same conclusions as you might not be the best way forward with this.

[Starbug]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't understand this lol

[Blu]

Are you asking if we think Green Day intentionally made 21CB in order to save rock 'n' roll and they just aren't saying it directly?

[Hellcat]

I read both interviews and I think what the thread starter is trying to say is.

given what Billie, Mike and Tre have said in recent interviews.

and the two articles in this thread.

I think he means that Green Day can be that band that does save Rock and Roll.

[nathan13]

I think she means where is the future of Green Day heading, the next album and so on.

And that Green Day will be the light at the end of the tunnel for Rock and Roll, as all we have right now is Hannah Montana, and Lil Wayne...

[chatnoir]

Rock'N'Roll as the working class art form saved by Green Day. Sounds good somehow.

[St. Jimmy of New York]

Hello anyone home?

[chewychorizo]

I don't know what your talking about, so i'm going to say...no.

[chatnoir]

*I'd kind of like to find out if there's a way I can send these articles to the guys... any help?

Oh, sorry, I didn't notice this question. Why do you want to send them the articles? As far as I know, there is no way to send them anything via the forum.

[Starbug]

I read both interviews and I think what the thread starter is trying to say is.

given what Billie, Mike and Tre have said in recent interviews.

and the two articles in this thread.

I think he means that Green Day can be that band that does save Rock and Roll.

The cover of Entertainment Weekly 4 years ago said the same thing, that Green Day saved rock n roll.

Think about it.

The biggest names in rock and roll nowadays are nickelback and Daughtry. And while those are all fine and good, they're not gritty. They all sound the same. Green Day blasts them ALL away.

[Trotsky]

The biggest names in rock and roll nowadays are nickelback and Daughtry. And while those are all fine and good, they're not gritty. They all sound the same. Green Day blasts them ALL away.

As far as I'm concerned the mainstream puts such shit out there that I don't even think good bands need to be put in that circle. Since Green Day is still making good music, they should stay away from the pedestals of society's bullshit.

[Hermione]

They're one of like 5 current rock bands I ever listen to, and they're the only good thing I'd hear on the radio if I listened all day. So they're definitely saving it for me!

[mad hatter.]

Green Day is amazing as we all know but...no, I don't believe they will "save" rock and roll. Tbh, I don't think it needs to be "saved".

[Greenforaday101]

The biggest names in rock and roll nowadays are nickelback and Daughtry.

What the fuck?

[thenextsexpistol_mak]

i really feel like green da is THE band, you know

like ac/dc in 1980 or, i dont know, you know what i mean...

we are living in an era when few people care bout music:

computers can play , so you dont need to learn how to play;

you can buy (or not buy) the hits from the internet and never get to hear the songs that are not hits;

you (not YOU ) can listen today to whatever is in mtv, and forget it tomorrow, ......

but just yesterday, i was talking to this woman who said she used to like punk music and i asked her, like "What did ya like?"

and she was like "oh! you know, happy punk, green day"

(happy punk????) so i mentioned gd new record and she was like "really? i think it is worth spending my money in a record if it is a green day one...."

so i believe gd is THE band

[Sharmellow]

Green Day is amazing as we all know but...no, I don't believe they will "save" rock and roll. Tbh, I don't think it needs to be "saved".

I disagree about rock music doesn't need to be saved.

All the rock you listen to nowadays are just the same whiny pop-rock songs and most of them sound relatively similar with each other.

For example, at first I thought State of Thought (or whatever you call that band) was Theory of the Deadman because their music are so similar and especially their voices. There's hardly any originality nowadays, as for the mainstream music anyway.

[Clockwise]

This is what I've been thinking for a while. They are by far the most ambitious music group at the moment.

To me, Rock N' Roll is about music that will make you think, or that says something risque', that pushes the boundaries and above all ROCKS!

Green Day is still doing that, and they have a NUMBER 1 ALBUM!

So yes, as David Letterman said they are "single-handedly saving Rock N' Roll".

I think it's exactly what this stale music climate needs, and I love it.

[Trotsky]

I disagree about rock music doesn't need to be saved.

All the rock you listen to nowadays are just the same whiny pop-rock songs and most of them sound relatively similar with each other.

For example, at first I thought State of Thought (or whatever you call that band) was Theory of the Deadman because their music are so similar and especially their voices. There's hardly any originality nowadays, as for the mainstream music anyway.

Then why not just forsake the mainstream?

People who are willing to say 'fuck the mainstream' and get into bands that society as a whole will never embrace will find the most talented bands and the most passionate music in the world. People who wait on the mainstream to produce something decent will continually lower their standards and happily consume shit. Everyone will get what they want, and everyone will get what they deserve.

Anyone who can't be bothered to listen to a band not on the radio or TV doesn't deserve to hear decent music.

[Sharmellow]

Then why not just forsake the mainstream?

People who are willing to say 'fuck the mainstream' and get into bands that society as a whole will never embrace will find the most talented bands and the most passionate music in the world. People who wait on the mainstream to produce something decent will continually lower their standards and happily consume shit. Everyone will get what they want, and everyone will get what they deserve.

Anyone who can't be bothered to listen to a band not on the radio or TV doesn't deserve to hear decent music.

Good point there.

That's why I hardly ever listen to the Radio.

Edit:

Just curious, but would you call Green Day mainstream?

[rizzo]

I read both interviews and I think what the thread starter is trying to say is.

given what Billie, Mike and Tre have said in recent interviews.

and the two articles in this thread.

I think he means that Green Day can be that band that does save Rock and Roll.

Thanks Hellcat... phew. As I started reading the replies, I was starting to feel bad about my poor attempt at communication.

But, I then realized YOU started your reply with, "I READ BOTH INTERVIEWS...". Thank you.

I should've preempted with, "Please ACTUALLY READ the 2 articles". (as long as they might be)

Yes, I just found a refreshing similarity between what Steve Van Zandt's take on today's music, it's shortcomings and plea to today's artists and Green Day's approach/process to creating 21st CBD.

We've all heard the interviews and read the interviews (assuming people are READING the articles) about how much going back and performing in small clubs/bars, even as FHT, or themselves, is vital to their growth as a band; their well known love for playing covers; BJ's passion for songwriting; their challenge to find the patience needed for all the right lyrics and arrangements to come together; and the guys were very open about the influences they tapped into via vinyl for this new album to "learn greatness from greatness" (a quote from the article, for the "Huh?'s" out there).

My thread title also had to do with Mike's recent statement about "goal setting" as we all know their unbelievable work ethic. Remember BJ's description of themselves from Bullet in a Bible? "Hardest working rock band...EVER!"

As bold as the statement may be, "Saving Rock 'n Roll"... I can see as how that can spark a whole sub-debate and sub-conversation.

I can honestly say that I don't think I listen to ENOUGH music, Indy or Major to even make a fair statement of "Green Day will save Rock and Roll".

But, I do believe that Green Day embodies Steve's description of Rock 'N Roll as the working class art form and they have that right to throw their hats in the ring. Look, the articles merely made me smile with pride because I know that GD is on the right track to becoming "greatness".

I apologize to anyone who thinks I was forcing my opinion on anyone, I was merely sharing it and inviting any thoughts or even some enlightening debate.

Although, the "huh's", and "what's" were quite entertaining. Thanks again, to those who actually read the 2 posted articles.

[Tiffx]

Well right now Green Day is the only band with some real substance and depth to their music in the mainstream. Their music continues to be genuine and the band themselves refuse to give into mainstream bullshit and maintain their integrity. So I definitely think that Green Day is 'saving' rock in some way.

Like other people have said, they are the only good thing on the radio at the moment... mainstream music is only getting shittier excluding Green Day, obviously.