GDFan2019 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, greendepent said: The amount of delusion and disappointment here mixed together is hilarious :lol: . If I'm gonna pinpoint problems in the production of FOAM, I'd throw my darts to the mastering engineer. He went crazy with the color and compression on the CD master. Hell, listening in vynil is like listening another different record. Butch did a great job as producer. If he didn't, the band wouldn't be working with him again. How much different does the vinyl version sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: How much different does the vinyl version sound? If you think they made the record sound like shit on purpose, not enough 🙃 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendepent Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: How much different does the vinyl version sound? Different enough to buy it, rip it, and forgetting about the digital release. Most the saturation on BJ's voice is gone, besides all the dynamic range that vynils use to have. 2 minutes ago, HAPPY FINKING UNICORN said: If you think they made the record sound like shit on purpose, not enough 🙃 Yeah, this could be like it, too, hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PluckyJokerhead Posted January 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2022 I think there's a lot of confusion between production and mixing + mastering around here. Production decisions, imo, let FOAM down - whether that was Butch Walker's doing or Green Day's (or as all evidence seems to point, both). When I say that I mean the creative decisions made in the recording process to realise the songs written, i.e very different sounding guitar tones from previous albums, hand claps, synth sounds etc. This is where I think Revolution Radio is miles ahead of FOAM, with the band producing themselves and choosing to go in a more 'Green Day' direction with a lot of Who influences and massive sounding guitars. From a mixing (+mastering) point of view FOAM sounds great -- much less smashed by limiters during mastering, and things like vocals generally sound more well recorded and have fewer glaring issues with balance and certain harsh frequencies which RevRad suffers from. Personally I have no reason to believe that Butch Walker couldn't produce a more 'Green Day' sounding record if that's what the band wants, although I must admit I'm not super familiar with any of his work outside of FOAM so obviously not a great start. Mainly just hope they go back to a more organic sound, with less compressed drums and bigger guitars. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jankowski576 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, PluckyJokerhead said: I think there's a lot of confusion between production and mixing + mastering around here. Production decisions, imo, let FOAM down - whether that was Butch Walker's doing or Green Day's (or as all evidence seems to point, both). When I say that I mean the creative decisions made in the recording process to realise the songs written, i.e very different sounding guitar tones from previous albums, hand claps, synth sounds etc. This is where I think Revolution Radio is miles ahead of FOAM, with the band producing themselves and choosing to go in a more 'Green Day' direction with a lot of Who influences and massive sounding guitars. From a mixing (+mastering) point of view FOAM sounds great -- much less smashed by limiters during mastering, and things like vocals generally sound more well recorded and have fewer glaring issues with balance and certain harsh frequencies which RevRad suffers from. Personally I have no reason to believe that Butch Walker couldn't produce a more 'Green Day' sounding record if that's what the band wants, although I must admit I'm not super familiar with any of his work outside of FOAM so obviously not a great start. Mainly just hope they go back to a more organic sound, with less compressed drums and bigger guitars. Well said! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalo17 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Major Kusanagi said: i would argue that sugar youth is another one with green day vibes True, but not original... Same riff than SHE'S a rebel or 1000 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Lot Lizard Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I want something exciting to happen soon. I hope the songs are amazing and meaningful. The Trilogy was great. Rev Rad was great. I hope it’s different than anything they’ve ever done but with songs like a lot Trilogy and Rev Rad songs are as in they mean a lot to a lot of people. I want to feel something. I liked Graffitia and Meet Me on the Roof and the whole record pretty much but I didn’t really connect to much of FOAM as much as I connected to a lot of the Trilogy and most of Rev Rad and then the Longshot. I don’t care who the producer is. They will pick someone great. I hope the songs are amazing. They are very capable of writing amazing songs. Green Day write the best songs. And I hope it’s not a short record but not a longer record just for the sake of a longer record with lots of filler. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhiteTim Posted January 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2022 I love how people just wanna blame Butch and not GD for the production qualities as if GD is some no name group who has zero say in their recording process… 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Virginia Lot Lizard said: I want something exciting to happen soon. I hope the songs are amazing and meaningful. The Trilogy was great. Rev Rad was great. I hope it’s different than anything they’ve ever done but with songs like a lot Trilogy and Rev Rad songs are as in they mean a lot to a lot of people. I want to feel something. I liked Graffitia and Meet Me on the Roof and the whole record pretty much but I didn’t really connect to much of FOAM as much as I connected to a lot of the Trilogy and most Rev Rad and then the Longshot. I don’t care who the producer is. They will pick someone great. I hope the songs are amazing. They are very capable of writing amazing songs. Green Day write the best songs. And I hope it’s not a short record but not a longer record just for the sake of a longer record with lots of filler. If the February 2nd theory is correct, I say we get the last teaser on that day, a single on Friday, February 4th, and the album (or EP) on the 17th (Billie’s birthday)!!!! On the other hand, if we get the album on Billie’s birthday, shouldn’t we have had a single this month? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGLWW Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, WhiteTim said: I love how people just wanna blame Butch and not GD for the production qualities as if GD is some no name group who has zero say in their recording process… I would say a lot of the big name groups now are the ones who have less control. At least the newer ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Lot Lizard Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: If the February 2nd theory is correct, I say we get the last teaser on that day, a single on Friday, February 4th, and the album (or EP) on the 17th (Billie’s birthday)!!!! On the other hand, if we get the album on Billie’s birthday, shouldn’t we have had a single this month? I am so excited about all of this. It will happen and the surprise whenever it happens will be amazing! February 2nd!!!!!!! Let’s hope so!!!!! That seems soon!!!!! 👏👏👏👏 Let’s go Green Day! Hurray!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 14 hours ago, PluckyJokerhead said: I think there's a lot of confusion between production and mixing + mastering around here. Production decisions, imo, let FOAM down - whether that was Butch Walker's doing or Green Day's (or as all evidence seems to point, both). When I say that I mean the creative decisions made in the recording process to realise the songs written, i.e very different sounding guitar tones from previous albums, hand claps, synth sounds etc. This is where I think Revolution Radio is miles ahead of FOAM, with the band producing themselves and choosing to go in a more 'Green Day' direction with a lot of Who influences and massive sounding guitars. From a mixing (+mastering) point of view FOAM sounds great -- much less smashed by limiters during mastering, and things like vocals generally sound more well recorded and have fewer glaring issues with balance and certain harsh frequencies which RevRad suffers from. Personally I have no reason to believe that Butch Walker couldn't produce a more 'Green Day' sounding record if that's what the band wants, although I must admit I'm not super familiar with any of his work outside of FOAM so obviously not a great start. Mainly just hope they go back to a more organic sound, with less compressed drums and bigger guitars. Anyway, I did some research and found out that Butch Walker produced some pretty awesome stuff over the years for some pretty big name artists. The ones that stood out me were Train's 2009 Save Me San Francisco album (which I love), Rob Thomas' 2019 Chip Tooth Smile album (which I also love), as well as Taylor Swift's re-recording of Red (cough @Little Boy Named Booze cough). Read more about all of it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butch_Walker. I just feel like he missed the mark with FOAM and that his approach was perhaps not the best fit for Green Day, but he obviously has the chops. I am willing to give him another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1989 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Beerjeezus said: Dang. We’ll have to find someone else to blame for those claps then. I bet it was Chris Dugan. Hope he’s not involved with the next album. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jankowski576 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 A lot of the decisions were def brought on and at the very least green lighted by the band but… It is crazy how sensitive Butch is to criticism - literally any creative decision that gets backlash he redirects right back to GD, even though it matches his style and GD has talked about how much of a partnership it was 😂 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 35 minutes ago, Lady Mix-A-Lot said: as well as Taylor Swift's re-recording of Red (cough @Little Boy Named Booze cough) she's so beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendary Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I think the February 2 theory is correct. May we get a new teaser and after, a new single release coming on Feb 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalo17 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Butch Walker os not a Rock man. Green Day needs a rock producer 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, legendary said: I think the February 2 theory is correct. May we get a new teaser and after, a new single release coming on Feb 4. Exactly what I said! 4 minutes ago, Gonzalo17 said: Butch Walker os not a Rock man. Green Day needs a rock producer Perhaps Butch Vig again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redundantuserjinxboy Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gonzalo17 said: Butch Walker os not a Rock man. Green Day needs a rock producer yeah I think George Martin should produce the next album 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said: yeah I think George Martin should produce the next album George Martin died in 2016 but his son Giles has handled the Beatles’ recent remixes of Sgt. Pepper, White Album, Abbey Road, and Let it Be. The last time he actually produced an album was Paul McCartney’s “NEW” album in 2013 https://www.billboard.com/media/lists/best-music-producers-9603412/amp/ Perhaps they should reunite with Rob Cavallo, as he’s #20 on this list 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, michael1989 said: Dang. We’ll have to find someone else to blame for those claps then. I bet it was Chris Dugan. Hope he’s not involved with the next album. I think it might have been Billie Joe. Hope he’s not… oh… hold on! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 https://instagram.com/stories/butchwalker/2756437651547940015?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&utm_medium=copy_link Hmmm….what could he be working on? 🤔🤔🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Lot Lizard Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: https://instagram.com/stories/butchwalker/2756437651547940015?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&utm_medium=copy_link Hmmm….what could he be working on? 🤔🤔🤔 This all seems awesome whatever he’s working on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Virginia Lot Lizard said: This all seems awesome whatever he’s working on. You're always positive I really like you !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Lot Lizard Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said: You're always positive I really like you !! I don’t really know much about Butch Walker but looking through his Instagram just now looks like he’s really interesting and I’m looking forward to seeing what happens next. Being a Green Day fan is an amazing super positive thing. The best band and they work so hard to bring us so much good stuff. How lucky are we?? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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