Popular Post AmyxLongview Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 I think I am going to be fine with this album. I wasn't very excited at first but I really like Oh Yeah and the other 2 have grown on me. It's just going to be a short, fun Green Day album. Probably nothing groundbreaking like AI or Dookie was. And that's perfectly okay. I think they're at the point in their career where they should just have fun and enjoy making music. If they're doing that, then I'm good with it (as long as the music isn't completely off-base to who they are, which these songs aren't, in my opinion). 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greendepent Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 Is funny how some people think that "oh yeah" is lazy songwriting, when I think is a gem in lyric terms and a deeper step into musical experimentation. Just a show in the myriad of opinions. Is nothing new for Green Day, that always has been passionate on changing sounds record to record. Specially when you know the eclectic nature of the band. It was about time that they absorbed the sound of The Network and make it evolve. This will make it or break it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grinsoniko Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 I disagree they put more effort into Longshot than this. This is obviously new territory for them, the went to Butch Walker knowing what they wanted, no surprise there. I consider effort trying new shit out and breaking the norm. When has GD given us what we were expecting? Except maybe 21CB...I’m enjoying these new songs, won’t lie, FOAM took me by surprise and took me a bit to swallow, but now hearing where this is going I understand it better and I dig it. I just think there’s a lot of repeatedly bashing here for only having heard three songs off the album. I totally get people not liking it though, but don’t call it shit songwriting, or shitty songs just because. It’s not a troll album, this is what GD wants to put out now. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1039SweetChildren Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 I'm starting to think this will be an album you have to digest in full to appreciate it. Listening to the three singles so far back to back makes it more enjoyable than just one at a time, if that makes sense. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendary Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Why choose Butch Walker to produce? He never NEVER did a great work with rock bands, and maybe others genres too. A band like Green Day choosing Butch Vig is a good sense choice, but Walker is weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, legendary said: Why choose Butch Walker to produce? He never NEVER did a great work with rock bands, and maybe others genres too. A band like Green Day choosing Butch Vig is a good sense choice, but Walker is weird. Maybe the felt they wanted to push themselves out of their comfort zones so it had to be somebody new to them? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, legendary said: Why choose Butch Walker to produce? He never NEVER did a great work with rock bands, and maybe others genres too. A band like Green Day choosing Butch Vig is a good sense choice, but Walker is weird. Maybe because they think otherwise, and they wanted someone producing this kind of sound. I think it’s unfair to blame Walker for the sound of this record so far. I believe this is the artistic direction the band chose, and they picked Butch because of this, not the other way around. And I do think Butch did a good job so far, of course if you don’t like this artistic direction you are not gonna like the production either. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1039SweetChildren Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 Seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I actually think Butch's production has been great so far. It's unfair to blame him for making the songs "poppy" when that is more of a stylistic choice Billie and the guys went with when writing/arranging. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 This is most probably the least bad Butch Walker did with a rock band, so I'm ok with it. The clap track makes my stomach turn though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, legendary said: Why choose Butch Walker to produce? He never NEVER did a great work with rock bands, and maybe others genres too. A band like Green Day choosing Butch Vig is a good sense choice, but Walker is weird. The only thing I could really think of is just doing something different and fresh. I agree though, I'm not a fan of Butch Walker's production myself. He's wildly inconsistent in these songs. Some sounds actually hit the mark and are new and cool and then sometimes the bass is muddy or the drums sound like resonating cans. I can understand some indie kid with a $1000 budget not getting the greatest drum sounds but honestly even that would atleast sound like drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 Honestly, Green Day is one of the biggest rock bands on the planet and I'm fairly certain that they are bigger than any producer they could possibly work with at this point. I'm not super familiar with Butch Walker's work but I doubt that the guys would head into a direction that they don't like, just because the producer tells them to. So Walker probably did what the band wanted him to do. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: This is most probably the least bad Butch Walker did with a rock band, so I'm ok with it. The clap track makes my stomach turn though. I thought he did better with Gob in the early 2000's. Maybe they were a little more involved in the production than Green Day was for this record. Just now, CherryBombs&Gasoline said: I'm fairly certain that they are bigger than any producer they could possibly work with at this point. Not true. Butch Vig holds valuable knowledge about recording in analogue that the boys wouldn't know. He's pretty much the most knowledgeable when it comes to that process. Btw it's a process that would make the band sound amazing. I'm surprised they never thought of actually trying it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sheenius said: I thought he did better with Gob in the early 2000's. Maybe they were a little more involved in the production than Green Day was for this record. That's true, I heard a few Gob songs when Butch's name was first brought up and enjoyed them a lot. They had a crisp but not bubblegummy sound. What he's been doing more recently is giving pop makeovers to already mediocre bands, which never yielded impressive results. It's possible that so far FOAM seems better thanks to the fact that it's Green Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sheenius said: I thought he did better with Gob in the early 2000's. Maybe they were a little more involved in the production than Green Day was for this record. Not true. Butch Vig holds valuable knowledge about recording in analogue that the boys wouldn't know. He's pretty much the most knowledgeable when it comes to that process. Btw it's a process that would make the band sound amazing. I'm surprised they never thought of actually trying it. I'm not saying they know more about producing a record. But I think if they didn't like the sound he was going for, they'd have told, probably 😅. I mean even if he's got more knowledge, they can still tell him if they don't like something, right? But I'm not an expert when it comes to that. I mean I've never seen the inside of a recording studio 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendary Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: My problem with this is not Butch Walker, but the choice. They choosed someone that did Weezer's Pacific Daydream and FOB's MANIA, the most hated albums of these bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyza Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: The clap track makes my stomach turn though. Interestingly, when I listened to all three of them front to back, it's melody stuck in my head most lol Maybe because it's like a theme song anyway so supposed to be like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: That's true, I heard a few Gob songs when Butch's name was first brought up and enjoyed them a lot. They had a crisp but not bubblegummy sound. What he's been doing more recently is giving pop makeovers to already mediocre bands, which never yielded impressive results. It's possible that so far FOAM seems better thanks to the fact that it's Green Day. Honestly, If i could defy the laws of science I would put all my money together to get Freddie Mercury back alive so Queen could make a record with Butch Walker. It would be like that Wu Tang record only 1 copy made. I would give that only copy to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, legendary said: My problem with this is not Butch Walker, but the choice. They choosed someone that did Weezer's Pacific Daydream and FOB's MANIA, the most hated albums of these bands. So far it seems FOAM has a good shot at becoming Green Day's most hated 2 minutes ago, Sheenius said: Honestly, If i could defy the laws of science I would put all my money together to get Freddie Mercury back alive so Queen could make a record with Butch Walker. It would be like that Wu Tang record only 1 copy made. I would give that only copy to you. I mean, why not, that'd be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PursuitOfEpicness Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Shrieking Shack said: It's all about the bigger picture. Judging by your recent post the bigger picture being you should seek mental help 39 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: This is most probably the least bad Butch Walker did with a rock band, so I'm ok with it. The clap track makes my stomach turn though. The clapping on FRA was the WORST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, legendary said: Why choose Butch Walker to produce? He never NEVER did a great work with rock bands, and maybe others genres too. A band like Green Day choosing Butch Vig is a good sense choice, but Walker is weird. I can imagine that Butch Vig is really expensive and when you produce such a small and mostly fun record like FOAM, they maybe know that the profit won‘t be as high as 21CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petros Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I don't mind the production at all so far I actually like how the songs sound. The lyrics in Oh Yeah have been my favorite from Billie since maybe 21stcb. I actually believe I'll enjoy this album more than revrad and the trilogy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGLWW Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 We don't really know what the rest of the album sounds like though. There a lot of 1 and 2 min tracks on it to be released still. They could be even louder, faster than the first two singles. Like Still Breathing, Oh Yeah could be an outlier on the album 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, legendary said: My problem with this is not Butch Walker, but the choice. They choosed someone that did Weezer's Pacific Daydream and FOB's MANIA, the most hated albums of these bands. Fair enough, honestly I am not too familiar with his previous work, and I barely listened the albums you mentioned. I am just judging him for what I heard in these three songs, and I honestly found the production more enjoyable then the one he had in RevRad and the Trilogy. There are some unusual elements and questionable choices as the drums in the beginning of Oh Yeah! or the clapping in FRA. Personally they don’t bother me, but I find some of the criticism absolutely understandable. I also think that Billie included elements like clapping in the past, see the Longshot and FBHT for example. If you hate the clapping I am not entirely sure Butch is the one to blame for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Fair enough, honestly I am not too familiar with his previous work, and I barely listened the albums you mentioned. I am just judging him for what I heard in these three songs, and I honestly found the production more enjoyable then the one he had in RevRad and the Trilogy. There are some unusual elements and questionable choices as the drums in the beginning of Oh Yeah! or the clapping in FRA. Personally they don’t bother me, but I find some of the criticism absolutely understandable. I also think that Billie included elements like clapping in the past, see the Longshot and FBHT for example. If you hate the clapping I am not entirely sure Butch is the one to blame for that I really like the clapping in FRA, it kinda fits. Especially the intro is cool 😅 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Taste said: We don't really know what the rest of the album sounds like though. There a lot of 1 and 2 min tracks on it to be released still. They could be even louder, faster than the first two singles. Like Still Breathing, Oh Yeah could be an outlier on the album Yes, I think that will be the case. I think almost all the songs will be very different from each other, at least from what we heard in the interviews/review. I am curious for example to see how Butch’s production dealt with the Beatles-esque song, Stab you In the heart if I am not mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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