No Grammy Nominations for 2018?

[gaslight13]

Just saw the list of nominees. Revolution Radio would've qualified by about a week for the 2018 Grammys but nothing. I can't speak for all the rock nominees but I don't understand how "Run" by the Foo Fighters got in there over Bang Bang. 

Here's all the rock/alternative nominations. Full list of nominations here: http://bit.ly/2iZjfu2

ROCK FIELD

Best Rock Performance:
“You Want It Darker” — Leonard Cohen
“The Promise” — Chris Cornell
“Run” — Foo Fighters
“No Good” — Kaleo
“Go To War” — Nothing More

Best Rock Song:
“Atlas, Rise!” — James Hetfield & Lars Ulrich, songwriters (Metallica)
“Blood In The Cut” — JT Daly & Kristine Flaherty, songwriters (K.Flay)
“Go To War” — Ben Anderson, Jonny Hawkins, Will Hoffman, Daniel Oliver, David Pramik & Mark Vollelunga, songwriters (Nothing More)
“Run” — Foo Fighters, songwriters (Foo Fighters)
“The Stage” — Zachary Baker, Brian Haner, Matthew Sanders, Jonathan Seward & Brooks Wackerman, songwriters (Avenged Sevenfold)

Best Rock Album:
Emperor Of Sand — Mastodon
Hardwired…To Self-Destruct — Metallica
The Stories We Tell Ourselves — Nothing More
Villains — Queens Of The Stone Age
A Deeper Understanding — The War On Drugs

ALTERNATIVE FIELD

Best Alternative Music Album:
Everything Now — Arcade Fire
Humanz — Gorillaz
American Dream — LCD Soundsystem
Pure Comedy — Father John Misty
Sleep Well Beast — The National

[pacejunkie punk]

Fuck em  The industry sucks right now. How Bang Bang didn’t get a nom after that AMA performance is beyond me. They brought the house down. And RevRad deserved a nom too. How many rock bands are there to compete with anyway?

[pouty bitch]

Fuck, there's not even one song or album in those nominations that I actually like. I haven't even heard of half of them.

That's disappointing - I was really expecting a nomination for Bang Bang.

[Billie Joes Eyelids]

I haven't watched the Grammys in years. Trash.

On the other hand if the AI movie happens, we could be seeing Emmys/Golden Globes in the future.

[The Great Saiyaman]

If Green Day isn’t in then Chris Cornell better win!

[Chin for a Day]

Bang Bang wasn't eligible. It was released in August and the timeframe for the grammys is Oct 1, 2016 to Sept 30, 2017. 

However, I am surprised Still Breathing was not nominated, it has a Grammy vibe to it.     

[Shahd]

Sad!

[gaslight13]

12 minutes ago, Grubby Poop said:

Bang Bang wasn't eligible. It was released in August and the timeframe for the grammys is Oct 1, 2016 to Sept 30, 2017. 

However, I am surprised Still Breathing was not nominated, it has a Grammy vibe to it.     

Is that the case even if the album comes out after Oct 1? I would've thought that's the date that matters? If not then that would make for a lot of albums getting nominations in different years than their singles. Virtually any album between Oct 1 and the end of the year could have a single come out prior to Oct 1. I could see SB getting overlooked, but Bang Bang is way more interesting than any of the others imo and it definitely deserves it in the performance category for obvious reasons. 

The Grammy's are a complete joke but it's still a disgrace that they didn't even get a pity rock nomination. They're probably gonna announce that one when it goes to commercial anyway. 

 

[Chin for a Day]

7 minutes ago, gaslight13 said:

Is that the case even if the album comes out after Oct 1? I would've thought that's the date that matters? If not then that would make for a lot of albums getting nominations in different years than their singles. Virtually any album between Oct 1 and the end of the year could have a single come out prior to Oct 1. I could see SB getting overlooked, but Bang Bang is way more interesting than any of the others imo and it definitely deserves it in the performance category for obvious reasons. 

The Grammy's are a complete joke but it's still a disgrace that they didn't even get a pity rock nomination. They're probably gonna announce that one when it goes to commercial anyway. 

 

No, I believe it is the date the respected nominee is released. That would mean that Bang Bang would not be eligible, but Revolution Radio the album was.

I absolutely disagree. I don't think there is anything remotely interesting, at least from a Grammy standpoint, about Bang Bang. To quote an unbiased source, my hubby: "Bang Bang is just fast and bad". However, Still Breathing has that heart felt anthem style that the Grammy's tend to love. 

Metallica's album was hugely successful, it went platinum which is really hard these days, so that gives them a heads up on the competition. Dave Grohl kisses everyone in the industry's ass, so the Foo's are always good for some nominations. 

[Montclare]

10 minutes ago, gaslight13 said:

Is that the case even if the album comes out after Oct 1? I would've thought that's the date that matters? If not then that would make for a lot of albums getting nominations in different years than their singles. Virtually any album between Oct 1 and the end of the year could have a single come out prior to Oct 1. I could see SB getting overlooked, but Bang Bang is way more interesting than any of the others imo and it definitely deserves it in the performance category for obvious reasons. 

The Grammy's are a complete joke but it's still a disgrace that they didn't even get a pity rock nomination. They're probably gonna announce that one when it goes to commercial anyway. 

 

Well, AI won in 2005, and BOBD won in 2006, so it wouldn't have been that weird for Bang Bang to have been nominated last year with the album this year.

And rock album they don't even bother with at the actual ceremony anymore.  They do it with all of the reggae, gospel, comedy albums in the afternoon.  At least that's what they did a couple years ago when Muse won.

But yeah, pissed we didn't get nominated for anything.  Where's that new management at?

[Stefano Bras]

[Jimmy Strummer]

Management or the label probably just didn't spend enough dough to get the album nominated. These awards are all bought anyway, take it from Adam Conover (he's talking about the Oscars not the Grammys, but same basic concept).

 

[Billie Hoe]

41 minutes ago, Jimmy Strummer said:

Management or the label probably just didn't spend enough dough to get the album nominated. These awards are all bought anyway, take it from Adam Conover (he's talking about the Oscars not the Grammys, but same basic concept).

The Grammys and the Oscars are basically the same thing though aren't they? Both given out by the Academy? Or am I confusing something here.

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

1 minute ago, Billie Hoe said:

The Grammys and the Oscars are basically the same thing though aren't they? Both given out by the Academy? Or am I confusing something here.

Aren't they two different accademies though? 

[Billie Hoe]

1 minute ago, Billie Joe Armstrong said:

Aren't they two different accademies though? 

Academy Shacademy! Everything's the same!

[Chin for a Day]

8 minutes ago, Billie Joe Armstrong said:

Aren't they two different accademies though? 

You are correct, The Grammy's is the Recording Academy and the Oscars are the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. My guess is it is a very different set of voters.

When the kids were little, we used to go to an island in Rhode Island called Block Island for vacation. When the kids got school age we couldn't afford in anymore because we had to go in season. I met Christopher Walken there, but I digress. Once, we rented a house from an actor called Tony Musante. He was a voting member of the Oscar academy. He had an entire wall of VHS tapes (I told you this was a long time ago) that the academy sent him for consideration for his vote. So, I guess they can vote for whomever they want, but the Academy will send which movies they should consider. I would imagine the recording industry is the same way.    

[Hero_Of_The_Hour]

59 minutes ago, Jimmy Strummer said:

Management or the label probably just didn't spend enough dough to get the album nominated. These awards are all bought anyway, take it from Adam Conover (he's talking about the Oscars not the Grammys, but same basic concept).

 

If you could simply buy an Oscar DiCaprio would have bought his many, many years ago.

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

49 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said:

If you could simply buy an Oscar DiCaprio would have bought his many, many years ago.

DiCaprio bought his when he finally realized he wasn't gonna earn it by his acting.

[gaslight13]

2 hours ago, Grubby Poop said:

No, I believe it is the date the respected nominee is released. That would mean that Bang Bang would not be eligible, but Revolution Radio the album was.

I absolutely disagree. I don't think there is anything remotely interesting, at least from a Grammy standpoint, about Bang Bang. To quote an unbiased source, my hubby: "Bang Bang is just fast and bad". However, Still Breathing has that heart felt anthem style that the Grammy's tend to love. 

Metallica's album was hugely successful, it went platinum which is really hard these days, so that gives them a heads up on the competition. Dave Grohl kisses everyone in the industry's ass, so the Foo's are always good for some nominations. 

That’s really weird but I’ll take your word for it because I’m too lazy to research. 

We’ll have to agree to disagree on bang bang and still breathing. Personally, I like Still Breathing a lot more than Bang Bang so I’m not advocating for It based on my preference. I dont really think either are Grammy worthy (by the standards Grammy’s should be held to) it’s more that compared to a song like Run, they absolutely should’ve been nominated. I think still Breathing is great because I relate to it and  because I know Billie’s story. But if neither were true (which is the case for probably most people), I’d think it was a relatively weak song. Then again, so is BOBD so you have a point there with the emotional factor. Bang Bang is more interesting musically, deals with relevant subject matter in an interesting way, and in terms of performance (the category I expected it to get) is more in your face.

Really though, I just expected Bang Bang to get nominated, but the album itself is what I think actually deserved to be nominated. Even if it didn’t win. 

[pacejunkie punk]

I wonder if they wouldn’t put Still Breathing up for consideration because the melody was lifted to the point where it was co-credited? They’d have to share their Grammy with another band which would kind of devalue the win.

[Chin for a Day]

17 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I wonder if they wouldn’t put Still Breathing up for consideration because the melody was lifted to the point where it was co-credited? They’d have to share their Grammy with another band which would kind of devalue the win.

They took one riff from The STruts - Could Have been Me, 99% of the song was Billie. So I doubt that would have been a consideration. We don't know that it was not up for consideration, we know it was not nominated.

 

23 minutes ago, gaslight13 said:

 

Really though, I just expected Bang Bang to get nominated, but the album itself is what I think actually deserved to be nominated. Even if it didn’t win. 

 Well, it is off by a year, it was eligible last year. But we can definitely agree to disagree. I think Bang Bang is one of the weaker songs on Rev Rad and except for the part with the octaves is not interesting musically at all. IT is the kind of song that was expected of them.  

[gaslight13]

3 minutes ago, Grubby Poop said:

They took one riff from The STruts - Could Have been Me, 99% of the song was Billie. So I doubt that would have been a consideration. We don't know that it was not up for consideration, we know it was not nominated.

They stole more than that. The verses follow the same sort of pattern with the vocals as still breathing. There’s still plenty different though but they were smart to credit them. 

[Brooklyn Baby]

Eh. I don't think any of the songs on this album were Grammy worthy. RevRad is like Warning... nice to listen to, but doesn't knock your socks off. 

[emmericanidiot]

Well they might’ve got a call saying they were PROBABLY gonna get a Grammy, but they’d have to agree to a major photo shoot and interview so they had to pass. 

 

Also the grammy’s suck anyway. Mainstream award shows are terrible these days.

[Chin for a Day]

7 minutes ago, gaslight13 said:

They stole more than that. The verses follow the same sort of pattern with the vocals as still breathing. There’s still plenty different though but they were smart to credit them. 

I think that is a bit of a stretch. It is a standard chord progression.