GreenDayTheory Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 What do we know exactly about the 21CBD Sessions (this one is interesting to me even tho i dont like the album that much) like Wonderful,Drama Queen (21CBD version),Olivia??,Dreamcatcher??,Oh Girl?? And Etc.
GreenDayTheory Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 Wonderful i know was written after Obama's election it was supposed to have a happy,surfy,mood but it did not fit the theme of 21CBD so its cut
Christian's Inferno! Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 I haven't heard of "Wonderful". What is that? Drama Queen I think doesn't sound like it belongs on 21CB. Since it was intended for that album, I would assume it sounded vastly different. It was replaced by Murder City, I believe, which is a really good thing as that track is a great track and belongs on an album like 21CB Olivia, Dreamcatcher and Oh Girl are all songs that have been played live and other than that, I'm not sure if there's any other information out there about them regarding when they were written etc. None of those songs sound particularly great to me so if they were never to be released, I wouldn't really care unless they sounded much different/better in the studio
GreenDayTheory Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: I haven't heard of "Wonderful". What is that? Drama Queen I think doesn't sound like it belongs on 21CB. Since it was intended for that album, I would assume it sounded vastly different. It was replaced by Murder City, I believe, which is a really good thing as that track is a great track and belongs on an album like 21CB Olivia, Dreamcatcher and Oh Girl are all songs that have been played live and other than that, I'm not sure if there's any other information out there about them regarding when they were written etc. None of those songs sound particularly great to me so if they were never to be released, I wouldn't really care unless they sounded much different/better in the studio Idk but they were played 2010 so they might be written before or after the sessions Wonderful is a song Butch Vig boasted about but was cut fron the album
petros Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Yeah I remembered he hyped Wonderful for being a really good song.
GreenDayTheory Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, petros said: Yeah I remembered he hyped Wonderful for being a really good song. Yea but it was cut from the album Why was it not released as a B-side???
Hermione Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 I don't know if Wonderful was "cut" from the album. It written at the same time as a response to Obama being elected but that doesn't mean it was ever going to be on it, might not have fit with the other songs. Drama Queen was on the original 21st CB tracklisting but was replaced right at the last minute by Murder City, so I guess they just prefered Murder City. And we know what happened to it - they used it on Tre instead. Olivia I guess they didn't want to put on the album but just played live once or twice. Dreamcatcher was only heard after 21st CB, at a soundcheck during the tour, so it might have been a newer song rather than a 21st CB one but I don't think we know either way. I don't think there's really any more info out there than that. They're just songs that they chose not to put on the album that we don't know much else about.
GreenDayTheory Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hermione said: I don't know if Wonderful was "cut" from the album. It written at the same time but that doesn't mean it was ever going to be on it, might not have fit with the other songs. Drama Queen was on the original 21st CB tracklisting but was replaced right at the last minute by Murder City, so I guess they just prefered Murder City. And we know what happened to it - they used it on Tre instead. Olivia I guess they didn't want to put on the album but just played live once or twice. Dreamcatcher was only heard after 21st CB, at a soundcheck during the tour, so it might have been a newer song rather than a 21st CB one but I don't think we know either way. I don't think there's really any more info out there than that. They're just songs that they chose not to put on the album that we don't know much else about. Wonderful didnt fit the theme really so it was cut Dreamcatcher idk probably can fit in the album with Drama Queen But they should made those songs as B- Sides cuz its great
Second favourite son Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, GreenDayTheory said: Wonderful didnt fit the theme really so it was cut Where did you hear this, if you don't mind me asking?
GreenDayTheory Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 Here actually i found a thread here kinda but i found the article butch vig saying it
Todd Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Dream Catcher, Oh Girl, and Olivia were most likely all written after 21st Century Breakdown came out. They wrote a lot of the trilogy songs on the 2010 tour.
GreenDayTheory Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Todd said: Dream Catcher, Oh Girl, and Olivia were most likely all written after 21st Century Breakdown came out. They wrote a lot of the trilogy songs on the 2010 tour. Maybe like the same batch with Youngblood Cuz it was performed on last leg of the Breakdown tour (forgot the name sorry) at the same time when Drama Queen was first performed But we have proof Drama Queen is on 21CBD Sessions
Todd Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, GreenDayTheory said: Maybe like the same batch with Youngblood Cuz it was performed on last leg of the Breakdown tour (forgot the name sorry) at the same time when Drama Queen was first performed But we have proof Drama Queen is on 21CBD Sessions No, Drama Queen was performed in July 2009. These other songs are from summer 2010, the same time Stay the Night was soundchecked too
GreenDayTheory Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Todd said: No, Drama Queen was performed in July 2009. These other songs are from summer 2010, the same time Stay the Night was soundchecked too Oh didnt check the time xD Was that when C&V was released/played live?? Summer 2010 Imma make this thread to all albums
Todd Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, GreenDayTheory said: Oh didnt check the time xD Was that when C&V was released/played live?? Summer 2010 Imma make this thread to all albums Yes, C&V was played Summer/Fall 2010. You don't need to make these threads for each album. You'd be better off using the existing unreleased songs threads
GreenDayTheory Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 Idk if there is some but ill do it if theres any evidence I found a reddit guy who had a doc of all green day songs (maybe not all) He had some songs i didnt know
Todd Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, GreenDayTheory said: I found a reddit guy who had a doc of all green day songs (maybe not all) He had some songs i didnt know That was me
GreenDayTheory Posted June 4, 2017 Author Posted June 4, 2017 Lol How did you know the song Angel from 39/Smooth?? Never heard that one
Second favourite son Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Since we already have a general thread for discussing unreleased songs (below) I'm going to go ahead and close this one, so as to avoid splitting up the discussion too much (especially since there's a fair amount of overlap). Feel free to use the existing thread to carry on the discussion.
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