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[MillenniumFan]

Man, a little off topic, but all I can say right now is just: fk big corporations or industries in general! It's not even capitalism per se, but after a certain point, the larger a company gets the more it all seems to go to shit. Every single time. And I think that's valid across the board...

but then again, would it be possible to sell as many records or tour the world without such mega-labels and management? 

[jengd]

33 minutes ago, MillenniumFan said:

 

but then again, would it be possible to sell as many records or tour the world without such mega-labels and management? 

That’s the problem though, because the answer is no.  I would love to be a fly on the wall with Billie, Mike and Tre when they are alone discussing what all they are having to do.  Did you see Billie’s reaction when asked about the LOAG book, he wouldn’t even talk about it but they have to play the game, or give up and go home.

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

50 minutes ago, MillenniumFan said:

Man, a little of topic, but all I can say right now is just: fk big corporations or industries in general! It's not even capitalism per se, but after a certain point, the larger a company gets the more it all seems to go to shit. Every single time. And I think that's valid across the board...

but then again, would it be possible to sell as many records or tour the world without such mega-labels and management? 

This. The bigger the company the more complicated everything gets and eventually the original idea gets lost.

It's certainly possible to tour the world without being on a big label and having promotion, but that way bands end up playing small shows to few people.

1 hour ago, Beyza said:

The band deleted the post from their IG but some other page reposted it and I saw they commented there 

I think it’s something you may not fully understand if you’re not actually in it but still, I find their situation sad cause I believe they or Billie are actually genuine about it and always want to feel connected to where they come from but obviously not everything in their hands or like in an ideal world. 

It's business and labels want to profit off their bands. So yeah, this doesn't seem far fetched - bands are in a weird relationship to labels because they don't get paid like regular employees or contractors, the label makes an investment in them and they need to earn enough for it to pay off.

Untimately artists want to do their art, but when it comes to promotion and business, they're influenced by labels and management.

[luketrebilliemike]

What’s the next fuck up guys?

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

3 minutes ago, luketrebilliemike said:

What’s the next fuck up guys?

The next fuck up is a surprise

[Beyza]

1 hour ago, Beerjeezus said:

So yeah, this doesn't seem far fetched

Yes, I guess so and when I read those things that they said about illuminati and stuff. It's reminded me of a documentary I watched years ago about music industry and I found it really scary lol I don't remember there was anything about GD but there are too many things about a lot of artists, it was a really deep stuff lol

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

Summing up the weekend of scandals for me: 

- Ariana GrandeVSThe Billies: utter bullshit 

- 3 Billboards outside Oakland, California: bullshit reaction, but an avoidable bullshit. Thinking about it, Warner/Crush should have thought about that kind of idiotic reactions. Makes me cringe to see Fantano and his minions spreading bullshit on twitter through that, I hope it will be forgotten soon. The whole thing just misrepresented this band and where they are in their career in an annoying way. 

-Wackogate: what the fuck are you doing you Crush idiots? 

Peace. 

[Beyza]

7 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

Summing up the weekend of scandals for me: 

- Ariana GrandeVSThe Billies: utter bullshit 

- 3 Billboards outside Oakland, California: bullshit reaction, but an avoidable bullshit. Thinking about it, Warner/Crush should have thought about that kind of idiotic reactions. Makes me cringe to see Fantano and his minions spreading bullshit on twitter through that, I hope it will be forgotten soon. The whole thing just misrepresented this band and where they are in their career in an annoying way. 

-Wackogate: what the fuck are you doing you Crush idiots? 

Peace. 

I think they all are not really a big deal for their current situation. It's what happens when your band in a label tries really hard to promote your stuff. Not all of the major labels like that though or managment maybe in that case.

[The Grohl]

I'm starting to think Green Day shouldn't have signed with Crush. Granted these "scandals" are so...dumb, but it's getting the wrong reaction. Maybe they gotta rethink some things.

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

Just now, kaylubd said:

I'm starting to think Green Day shouldn't have signed with Crush. Granted these "scandals" are so...dumb, but it's getting the wrong reaction. Maybe they gotta rethink some things.

I thought there was unnecessary preventable drama while they were with PM but now there's more and more of it while everything also gets increasingly commercialized. I can't say I'm stoked.

[The Grohl]

5 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

I thought there was unnecessary preventable drama while they were with PM but now there's more and more of it while everything also gets increasingly commercialized. I can't say I'm stoked.

Exactly. There may have been drama in the past, but now it seems like there's just a shitstorm. Luckily it's over something dumb, but still Crush don't seem like they can handle it or prevent very well.

[Rumpelstiltskin2000]

I suppose people always say "any publicity (good or bad) is good publicity"...

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

Just now, kaylubd said:

Exactly. There may have been drama in the past, but now it seems like there's just a shitstorm. Luckily it's over something dumb, but still Crush don't seem like they can handle it or prevent very well.

The issue with Crush as I see it is that they fail to create a consistent image for the band. Are you going the commercial route where you're heavily relying on sponsor deals, cross promotion and the whoohoo we're rOcKsTaRs and we do dRuGs or are you keeping this rather lowkey and instead focusing on the band's image as "normal guys" who are staying somehow involved in the local scene with their small shows and playing with smaller bands? Are you targeting a young audience that also appreciates other genres and artists like Billie Eilish and Post Malone or are you targeting dad rock fans who will nod approvingly at the "modern music suuuucks look we're rOcKsTars" message?

It's inconsistent. Look at Foo Fighters doing the "Dave Grohl is a nice dude" thing for 20 years. That's consistant personal branding.

11 minutes ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said:

I suppose people always say "any publicity (good or bad) is good publicity"...

That's true, but PR is meant to create positive publicity. You wouldn't pay someone to make you look like an idiot

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

PR is meant to create positive publicity.

Green Days PR team upon reading this:

[Give_Me_Novacaine90]

Green Day on a news program in Italy.

nothing new, they talk about the return with the new album and the shows they will do in Italy

[LaughingClock]

20 hours ago, Beerjeezus said:

The issue with Crush as I see it is that they fail to create a consistent image for the band. Are you going the commercial route where you're heavily relying on sponsor deals, cross promotion and the whoohoo we're rOcKsTaRs and we do dRuGs or are you keeping this rather lowkey and instead focusing on the band's image as "normal guys" who are staying somehow involved in the local scene with their small shows and playing with smaller bands? Are you targeting a young audience that also appreciates other genres and artists like Billie Eilish and Post Malone or are you targeting dad rock fans who will nod approvingly at the "modern music suuuucks look we're rOcKsTars" message?

It's inconsistent. Look at Foo Fighters doing the "Dave Grohl is a nice dude" thing for 20 years. That's consistant personal branding.

That's true, but PR is meant to create positive publicity. You wouldn't pay someone to make you look like an idiot

EVERYTHING is not publicity.  David Grohl just is a nice person.  He hasn't been playing one for 20 years for promotion.  I've actually played poker with him and Jery Cantrell a few weeks ago. Two the nicest guys you'll ever meet.

 

As for the commercial look, I personally don't like the Harley presents but on the other hand, those guys did a bang up job of selling a lot of seats to this tour and I was pretty impressed.

[pacejunkie punk]

10 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

EVERYTHING is not publicity.  David Grohl just is a nice person.  He hasn't been playing one for 20 years for promotion.  I've actually played poker with him and Jery Cantrell a few weeks ago. Two the nicest guys you'll ever meet.

 

As for the commercial look, I personally don't like the Harley presents but on the other hand, those guys did a bang up job of selling a lot of seats to this tour and I was pretty impressed.

Welcome back 🙂 Do you have any info into how the US tour dates are selling? Is it going as expected, better or worse?

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

10 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

EVERYTHING is not publicity.  David Grohl just is a nice person.  He hasn't been playing one for 20 years for promotion.  I've actually played poker with him and Jery Cantrell a few weeks ago. Two the nicest guys you'll ever meet.

 

As for the commercial look, I personally don't like the Harley presents but on the other hand, those guys did a bang up job of selling a lot of seats to this tour and I was pretty impressed.

Oh no haha  I wasn't trying to imply he's secretly an evil guy, just that he has a consistent image.

 

[Give_Me_Novacaine90]

https://store.greenday.com/father-of-all/q-magazine-live-at-the-whiskey-7-bundle.html 

 

This is awesome, but $12.99 shipping to Italy 😥

[The Grohl]

4 minutes ago, Give_Me_Novacaine90 said:

https://store.greenday.com/father-of-all/q-magazine-live-at-the-whiskey-7-bundle.html 

 

This is awesome, but $12.99 shipping to Italy 😥

I feel your pain. 10.99 to ship in the states

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

It’s available in the EU store as well, I paid 5 € of delivery fee. 

[The Grohl]

Despite how cool the 7 inch is, I honestly don't know how much I care about it to fork over 30 bucks total. 

[Squashie]

I see Billie Joe did the Vinyl text again... it's better than the actual album cover, so there's a plus! I wish I could just get that cover. I don't have a turntable, so the 7" is useless to me.

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

Billie's art style 100% relies on having cool handwriting

[pacejunkie punk]

3 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

Billie's art style 100% relies on having cool handwriting

And Sharpies and duct tape lol