End Of The World Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 Not sure if there is already a topic about this, but I think there is plenty to discuss. In my opinion, if they had never released AI, there would have been a gradual decrease in commercial success. If they had continued to work on Cigarettes and Valentines (maybe featuring Too Much Too Soon, Shoplifter, Hearts Collide, Lights Out, Governator) it would have been great, since IMO some songs contained in AI are from CaV. On the other hand, AI was some kind of rebirth, being the father of 21stCB, the Trilogy and RR. So, I'm asking you, what do you think about that? Hope you enjoy.
zeldachick14 Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 My life would be shit. That album changed me and i grew up with it as my soundtrack. I needed it in my life. Thank god they lost the cigarettes & valentines recordings other wise we wouldn't be blessed with this amazing album.
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 Pretty much what you said, the sales would drop, especially if C&V did consist of songs like youngblood, walk away and other sub-par tunes that are rumored to be from that album. Do we pretend 21CB doesn't exist too? I kind of don't see it has a place in a world withought AI.
Steven Seagull Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 Those are my wet dreams every day. AI ruined Green Day
Amanda Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 26 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: Those are my wet dreams every day. AI ruined Green Day Shake it off.
Marki. Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 I agree with what you said in the OP, I also really like all of the songs you listed (Too Much Too Soon, Shoplifter, Hearts Collide...). I'm very glad they released AI, though - I think the future of the band could have been very different if they didn't. Who knows if they'd still be around, planning world tours? I personally think they would, since they love making music more than anything, but it's a scary thought. 21st CB would most likely never see the light of day and I love everything about that album (especially the tour that followed it ).
Brooklyn Baby Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 If Green Day hadn't released AI, they would have reached the point of irrelevance that they're at today much, much more quickly.
Chin for a Day Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 I would have a bit more of my disposable income.
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 Well they would've just been forgotten. I mean, by Warning, many people were getting bored of them, they needed the political songs to get people interested in their music again. And I'm so happy that AI was released because if it wasn't I probably wouldn't know GD and most of my generation wouldn't know GD and we wouldn't have got 21CB or RevRad. 2000s GD is my favourite GD despite the criticism given to them
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 What if AI was just a PR stunt and actually never existed?
End Of The World Posted November 27, 2016 Author Posted November 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said: What if AI was just a PR stunt and actually never existed? Wow, that'd be scary
Amanda Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 10 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said: What if AI was just a PR stunt and actually never existed?
DeJennsitized Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 I probably wouldn't have heard of them. I only discovered them through the heavy airplay of AI songs on the music channels. Or maybe I would have discovered them much much later. idk, hard to say. 1 hour ago, JOE THE X-KID said: Steven Seagull ruined gdc GDC becomes a much better place once you put him on ignore 41 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said: I would have a bit more of my disposable income. Yes, same.
Thatsername Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 What a scary thought. They wouldn't have become my favourite band, pretty sure. I knew them before AI and listened to them, but they were just one band amongst many others. AI changed that. It changed everything. It had a big influence on my life, too, it made me much more aware politically and was one major influence for me to get involved in politics myself. No idea who would be my favourite band now without it. Maybe life would have ruined me and I would listen to Bon Jovi instead. Thanks GD for sparing me this experience!
Steven Seagull Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 49 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: and we wouldn't have got 21CB or RevRad. I don't see what's bad about that. Since Warning Uno, Dos and Tre were the only good albums Green Day released and the rest were so awful.
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 Just now, Steven Seagull said: I don't see what's bad about that. Since Warning Uno, Dos and Tre were the only good albums Green Day released and the rest were so awful. Fuck off
Alan86 Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Steven Seagull said: I don't see what's bad about that. Since Warning Uno, Dos and Tre were the only good albums Green Day released and the rest were so awful. Warning is their best album but Uno Dos Tre are below average albums. They could have made one good album out of those 3.
Steven Seagull Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, Alan86 said: Dookie is their best album but Uno Dos Tre are great albums. LMFTFY
Spike Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 I don't think the drop off in sales would have been all that gradual. Look at where they were at the time; obviously Warning is a solid album and a lot of people's favourite, but commercially they'd have been fucked. And with the success bands like Blink and Good Charlotte were having at the time they'd have become totally irrelevant. But then without American Idiot there'd be no Black Parade, and who could have survived without Black Parade? I think ultimately they'd probably have started self-releasing, shows would be much smaller, the music would be more raw, they'd do the odd festival for the nostalgia crowd… basically imagine where The Offspring are now.
RedundantIdiot Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 Although the albums that followed Dookie were good, AI was like GD being reborn and it gave them a new lease of life, not to mention a new generation of fans like myself. We wouldn't have got 21st Century Breakdown if AI didn't exist, either. Just curious- is there anyone here who thinks that GD wouldn't be playing together right now if AI hadn't happened? Just asking.
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 14 minutes ago, Spike said: I think ultimately they'd probably have started self-releasing, shows would be much smaller, the music would be more raw, they'd do the odd festival for the nostalgia crowd… basically imagine where The Offspring are now. I agree 100%
luketrebilliemike Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 They might have become even more popular, could have made more albums between 2004 and 9, or more likely be one of those bands that use to be famous, having a more kerplunk underground feeling, but being a lot less relevant and not being able to sell biggish venues like the 02 put in minutes
Steven Seagull Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 So much potential wasted. We could have the raw 90's sounding Green Day right now.
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