MikeDirntConfused Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Do you guys think GD can pull off another AI? I'm not necessarily talking about in terms of popularity, but in terms of content. Seriously, the album is my personal favorite and I genuinely think it belongs somewhere on the greatest albums ever created. After AI, GD just fell off for me. It's still my favorite band, but something's off.
Jesus of Seneca Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 I think this is less an issue of can they, and more an issue of will they. Maybe they will, when they've recovered from their 2012 example of 'trying too hard'. That led them to go back to basics, and perhaps in the future they will work up to another great statement. I can see it happening. They certainly aren't slowing down anytime soon.
Hermione Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 In terms of content I think 21st CB and the album they've just released are pretty similar!
MikeDirntConfused Posted October 13, 2016 Author Posted October 13, 2016 At least with 21st, they tried to do something. I don't love the album, but the effort is clearly evident in the songs. The trilogy and RevRad seems subpar. I mean, yeah there are some good tunes scattered in these albums, but overall, they just feel "meh".
DanPak Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 I can't wait until Seagull finds this thread As much as I like American Idiot, I wouldn't want another, we'd all only think they were too formulaic. I hope they can make something as great and successful as AI though, however unlikely.
Lauren Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 21 minutes ago, MikeDirntConfused said: At least with 21st, they tried to do something. I don't love the album, but the effort is clearly evident in the songs. The trilogy and RevRad seems subpar. I mean, yeah there are some good tunes scattered in these albums, but overall, they just feel "meh". For me I think the problem with 21stCB was the production quality rather than the songs. I just love the way everything sounds on American Idiot as a whole, even though most of those songs don't even come close to favorites of mine. Rob Cavallo is an amazing producer. When I heard the live leaks of the 21stCB songs, I really liked them, then the album came out and it was kind of meh. I guess I liked the songs themselves when I heard them live but did not really care for the recordings.
SuperXCsabre495 Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 I don't know if I would want them to try to, American Idiot to me is my favorite album of all time, I think it's perfect. I don't want them to try to recreate perfection because when someone does try to recreate perfection it never happens. Green Day struck gold twice in their career, I think they have the talent to hit it a 3rd time but it'll likely be something that isn't along the lines of Dookie or American Idiot because they've already done that.
jose armstrong Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 technically, no. Career and breakthrough wise? Maybe. But it'd be hard to emulate. Even if they were down in the dumps like they were before American idiot. Then again elections and the world itself keep getting crazier so if they channel that kind of disaster in a time of need they'd probably have a chance to make something as big as American Idiot.
Billie Hoe Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Honestly, I don't think I'd want another American Idiot. Another American Idiot wouldn't be special because we're already referring to it as "Another American Idiot", you know what I mean? I think that this album was a stroke of absolute genius and it was a product of time - it came exactly when society needed it. And I'm not sure if Green Day want to do another American Idiot. They tried to live up to it with 21st Century Breakdown and nearly destroyed themselves in the process. I'm sure they don't mind not being *this* successful anymore, in terms of public attention, and be a little more underground instead. They've had huge success twice with Dookie and American Idiot and that's probably already pushing their luck, because how often does a band blow up twice? As long as their music is honest (which Revolution Radio absolutely is) and I can still love and enjoy their music, I'm fine with anything that would be considered "less than American Idiot" in the public eye. And I think it's a little unfair to expect them to one-up American Idiot.
spark in the night Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 If there's one thing we know about Green Day, it's that no two albums sound alike. They always push forward and try new sounds and find new inspirations. Each era is unique, so I don't think we will see another AI. There's no need for another one.
MikeDirntConfused Posted October 14, 2016 Author Posted October 14, 2016 I don't mean another rock opera. I mean something as well-developed, high quality, and meaningful record. AI just seemed perfection. From the meaningful lyrics to the production quality to the audible effort. Even people that hate GD have a soft spot for the record - it may not be for a song, but it may be for the work put into it. It's like a bodybuilder's physique. One may not like the overdone muscles and popping veins, but one may appreciate the time, dedication, and discipline to create the body. I similarly feel that GD lost these characteristics after 21st.
SuperXCsabre495 Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, MikeDirntConfused said: I don't mean another rock opera. I mean something as well-developed, high quality, and meaningful record. AI just seemed perfection. From the meaningful lyrics to the production quality to the audible effort. Even people that hate GD have a soft spot for the record - it may not be for a song, but it may be for the work put into it. It's like a bodybuilder's physique. One may not like the overdone muscles and popping veins, but one may appreciate the time, dedication, and discipline to create the body. I similarly feel that GD lost these characteristics after 21st. I thought RevRad was a well-developed, high quality and meaningful record.
MikeDirntConfused Posted October 14, 2016 Author Posted October 14, 2016 9 minutes ago, SuperXCsabre495 said: I thought RevRad was a well-developed, high quality and meaningful record. Lol!
norcalgreendayfan Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 I don't really don't see them doing another AI in terms of a concept album since they had done that and 21st Century Breakdown and another would be a third in that terms. I think they will do albums that will sound good but will not literally overwork themselves doing.
Chin for a Day Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 I think Rev rad is right up there with ai, if not surpassing.
SuperXCsabre495 Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, MikeDirntConfused said: Lol! Where was the joke?
Billie Hoe Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 Yeah people who arent gd fans have a soft spot for this album because it's legendary and one of the most famous albums ever. If you constantly expect them to live up to your expectations and refuse to give other records a chance, you're bound to be disappointed. The feeling that is "off" for you is probably the not yet reached public acknowledgement and fame that came with AI.
stories and songs Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 I think they poured their hearts into RevRad, and it shows. It doesn't seem like making a more personal album was something they took lightly—they really tried to make it meaningful and reflective of their lives and the world. I think maybe for the first time since AI they went into the studio leading with what felt honest and made them happy, rather than with what they wanted to accomplish from a technical standpoint and maybe made themselves crazy in the process. I think stepping out of AI's shadow was challenging for them, but they finally did it, and struck a balance between making a statement and making a down-to-earth Green Day album. There will never be another AI, and that's what makes it an incredibly special part of musical history. That was who Green Day was in 2004. Personally, I'm a lot more interested at this point in who they are in 2016. 2016 Green Day is pretty cool.
Teenage Lush Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 no, and i'm fine with it. i would never expect another ai and don't really want one. that album was so special to 12 year old me when it came out. nothing else could ever have that kind of impact on me personally.
UNICORN VOMIT Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 47 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said: I think Rev rad is right up there with ai, if not surpassing. No🙃 But I love you.
MikeDirntConfused Posted October 14, 2016 Author Posted October 14, 2016 42 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said: Yeah people who arent gd fans have a soft spot for this album because it's legendary and one of the most famous albums ever. If you constantly expect them to live up to your expectations and refuse to give other records a chance, you're bound to be disappointed. The feeling that is "off" for you is probably the not yet reached public acknowledgement and fame that came with AI. Not fame. There are plenty of albums coming out from artists that capture what GD had for AI. That energy, that drive to become the top, the audible effort, and everything else that makes it memorable.
Grinch Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Jesus of Seneca said: Maybe they will, when they've recovered from their 2012 example of 'trying too hard'. That led them to go back to basics. Actually, I think you got that a little backwards. As much as I love the album, I thought 21st Century Breakdown was 'trying too hard' where Trilogy led them back to their basics, good or bad it's what happened.
MikeDirntConfused Posted October 14, 2016 Author Posted October 14, 2016 I would love the band to make one more statement. Foo Fighters, Kanye West, Taylor Swift, among others put out records that make it seem like it'll be their last every single time. I'm not a fan of either 1 of the 3, but the effort is there. You have to admire artists that make the album as if it were their last, and try to demolish their previous efforts.
Billie Hoe Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Grinch said: Actually, I think you got that a little backwards.As much as I love the album, I thought 21st Century Breakdown was 'trying too hard' where Trilogy led them back to their basics, good or bad it's what happened. I always thought of the trilogy trying to be the exact opposite of what American Idiot was. I felt like they got sick of people expecting them to live up to AI content wise, so they were like "fuck you" and tried to force something casual and fun instead
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