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cover art for their new album: :lol: epic page own.

it's January 17th, 2012 ...and Kerplunk turns t-w-e-n-t-y we made a video for that, enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGXateWzbYA thanks to everyone who made that possible, green day fans are fucking great. ------------------------------------------ last September we made a video for the 7th anniversary of American Idiot. we had so much fun and we were so happy when it was posted on GDA , that we thought “how about making another one for kerplunk’s 20th anniversary? ” … so here we go!

K, this may be more appropriate to a new thread about stuff we decide to do together, but I have some thoughts about it now, so here goes. Any endeavor should start with principles - like, why are you doing this? As regards 'showing appreciation' to Green Day, I think that comes naturally with buying their records and coming together at their shows to celebrate with them. It comes with giving Billie Joe a 'hey-oh', for however millionth time he asks for it - it comes from just giving of ourselves in that moment, together. We can do other stuff that reinforces us as a community - giving advice and comfort when it's asked for, talking to each other, sharing our love of the music, contributing to this forum. As regards stuff like the environment, I think do it because you believe in it, not because it's something Green Day's involved with. I think, don't trade on their name, do it for its own sake and ask anyone who's like-minded to come with you if that's what they want to do. Be true. Don't offer prizes or accolades, because doing what you believe in doesn't require any of that. Be pure. Green Day's fucking great, but they're not - nor do I think they would ever want to be - some kind of altar at which to bring our offerings. That notion disrespects both us and them. Let us inspire each other and support each other, have fun together, and most of all, fucking rock out together.

This thread has been fascinating to follow for the past few days. I stayed away from GDATW from the start, partly because the planning seemed weak and partly because I was short on both time and interest. As the weeks progressed, I raised my eyebrows more than a few times. Though some things were sketchy, I couldn't tell which aspects of the story were genuine and which were a scam. It seems like the community has reached a consensus that Dawn lied on several accounts. When someone breaks trust like that, it can't be recovered, no matter how many documents the offender digs out from old boxes. Regardless of where the truth lies, Dawn won't be able to convince our whole forum of her innocence. Having said that, it's been interesting to see GDC, as a family, rebound from this whole catastrophe. It speaks bounds the mod team cared to reach out to the rest of the forum, even though GDATW was not a GDA-controlled event. In light of all that's happened, a day when we get together to celebrate the band we adore will be even more special and meaningful next year. I can't wait to be part of it.

it's symbolic though. Society is twisted (like a carpet), it's rolled up really tight because there is no room for new ideas. We're stuck in a rut, and all we can think about is superficial things such as dieting. The media distracts us from the more important issues, and, in the process stripes women of their confidence. That's why the carpet is the only thing that's in colour, it's all she can see. obviously.

>everyone in thread is Andres God damn that confused me.

I'm curious to know what far-out claims you're referring to because I haven't seen any in this thread. All the claims I've seen have been reasonable and backed up with a fair amount of evidence (and where evidence is lacking people have been quick to say they're not sure and that they want to find out more before they draw conclusions). If any of the accusations are false then they're over things that would be easy for Dawn to explain or prove if she was telling the truth about them - she's free to do that and hopefully she will.

Write "Carpet Diet" on pieces of paper, take them to the next secret Green Day gigs (if there will be more) and make sure everyone near the stage holds them up. It worked before..

"We'll call Lady Gaga! Hey! Hey! (Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.) Well death to the one with the poker face."

Crap Diem.

if there were to be a last Green Day album it would be called Apocalypse because thats exactly what would happening to the world

Oh totally. Why are you always so right? Are you a ninja-turkey? (Sorry, I couldn't help myself)

There is no intention to offend the AI video, I loved it so much But you know, we always have to get better and then...to reminisce is to die!

TOTALLY! no doubt about it!

Judging from the amount of people who are paying attention to this, and from all this enthusiasm, I can say that this is gonna be MORE awesome than last time

haha yeah i thought that (it's kinda obvious, but my brain doesn't work good, cos now it's weekend...wait, do i even have a brain?? ) and yeah it's hilarious

haha don't be confused, today many ppl have Andres's avatar...when i came online this morning almost everyone had his avatar...even Andres was confused...but i have no idea why they all have their ava

This sounds great to me! I think I will take part

Count me in this sounds fucking awesome! I can't wait Oh yeah and the american idiot video was epic!

Whoop! Count me in! (loved this last time!)

And if you need the audio again, I can send it to you like I did with Letterbomb.

well, after i decided which lyrics i wanna take, i look what i can do with it ...the idea i had would be perfect for everything, but...damn, i can't say it, cos i don't want that anyone steals my idea

I am so excited for this video!!! The last video we made was so fun! I can't wait to participate in this and "Who Wrote Holden Caulfield" is an awesome song, too

Alright, sounds fair No, it's not so much that I can't wait, I was just wondering why ^^

ok, i wanna take part of that, but i don't know how to make it...i got a great idea, but it doesn't work so yeah maybe i'll take part of it ;D anyway, i'm sooo excited

cool .

This sounds awesome! I wanna take part

The brain shaped brain stew/jaded single. (not my picture, but i have the same thing)

I'm rolling on the floor right now!

Yeah, I'm very interested in starting the project and doing it as part of our site. We'll definitely be talking about it sometime after the new year.

The way the money GDATW raised was donated really rubs me the wrong way. People who had bought all these items for the charity had no idea where their money was going, Dawn just gave other peoples money to whatever charity she wanted without consulting anyone as far as I can tell. Granted I didn't keep up with the event all that much, but I thought all(?) the money was to go to NRDC as it was an environmental day. It is incredibly unprofessional that according to Kat she was to give $2500 to NRDC but ended up giving it to Red Cross instead. I'm not saying it's not a worthy cause, but she can't just change the entire direction of the money just because she felt it was right (or because Billie tweeted about it...), it was not her money to donate wherever she wished.

You know what, what she did was wrong, avoiding us was wrong, but it seems like everything should be settled now. I understand that you're all mad, but honestly, live and let live. Move the fuck on. I've never agreed with this witch hunt, its not worth it.

We talked for about 30 minutes, I asked her about many of the concerns people here had. Very briefly, as I'm with my family at the moment and need to get over there. This is exactly what Dawn told me. I told her I would relay all to you guys, and will continue to do what I can to confirm what she's said. She said she lied about the airline situation, she knows it was wrong, and she regrets everything that has come about from that. The reason for the lie was because she couldn't afford a ticket for the nurse who had to go with her. her doctor wouldn't allow her to fly, and if she did, it would be marked on her record unless she took a nurse with her both way. She lied to the airline about a family member dying so she could afford to fly her and her nurse to the show. Anyone who ordered something and hasn't' received it should file a claim with Amazon or Paypal to get a refund. While she was in the hospital she had her son take care of as much as he could, but he didn't keep up with the things necessary. She apologized for anyone who didn't get their order. She is sending everything she hads to Kat, and if anyone still wants to get the item they expected, they'll be able to get it from Kat. She is shipping everything to her on December 1st, so Kat will have an extensive list of what Dawn had. She said the items she was selling, she sold many of her own personal collection, then kept buying more items on eBay, which she then tried to re-sell to see if she could make any money for the charity. She wrote a check to the cystic fibrosis charity at the Costa Mesa show for $200, and she can send proof of that check. She also donated money to the Red Cross as she told people about, and she would also send that receipt to me soon. She said there wasn't a lot of money left after all the prizes and the NYC party. The idea of the charities were to raise money for GDATW and the leftover would go to NRDC. She didn't mention anything about sending money to the NRDC. She said she had multiple ebay accounts because she claimed when she signed up that it was a charity thing. She didn't have the paperwork to prove it was a non-profit, and eBay/PayPal froze the accounts. That's why she started the other account + the Amazon page. She is currently in the hospital, but she said her daughter snuck in the phone for her to use. She went in for surgery as others have said, and because of the whole airline incident, she did try to commit suicide and they put her in the psych ward. She expects to be released tomorrow, and will be sending me a scan of her release papers on Friday so that I can confirm whatever I need to confirm with the hospital. I asked her about the military service, and told her that people had found discrepancies about her service and the purple heart she gave to Billie Joe. She said she was a medic in the army until she got hurt, then she was a dentist which was a "desk job because of the injuries I had". After the surgeries she had for her injuries, she ended up in the wheelchair (I'm pretty sure that's what the story was). She said she has documents about her military service and would be happy to send them to me if it meant helping confirm her story. She said it would take a couple weeks to sort out, she'll send them to me, then i can do whatever I need to confirm it. I still don't know everything about her military service, I'll do what I can to confirm whatever she sends me in a couple weeks. What's most important to me is as it concerns the members of this community. If you are still waiting for items, file for a refund. And also, Kat will be getting all of Dawn's stuff and she can help with whatever needs to be done. Like i said, she will send me confirmation about her hospital stay on Friday for me to confirm, and she'll get the charity receipts for me as well (hopefully on Friday too). Dawn also said she has no intention of working anymore on GDATW. She's handing over all the items she had to Kat, then if she wants to continue GDATW or GDA have any part of it, she said we can do whatever we want with that stuff. Like I said, I can't confirm the stuff she's told me yet. I hope I can confirm whatever documentation she does send me. But that's her side of the story and until I confirm it, I don't really know what else we can do besides encourage people to file a claim for a refund. Edit: I also want to point out that the reason she called me in the first place was because I saw her name online anonymosly. I sent a message, told her we needed answers, we deserved them, and if she refused to get in touch I would let you guys know that she didn't reply. I got a reply and it said it was her daughter. She said Dawn heard that people were talking about this, she asked her daughter to read it and tell her what was happening. Her daughter told her I sent a message looking for answers, so she called as soon as she could.

I think there's a loss that people here are feeling on two levels. One level is the loss of money, where the solution is pretty simple (refunds, filing claims, etc). The other level is a loss of trust. If it turns out that Dawn lied, she lied to our entire community, multiple times. That's a pretty big deal, and even if it's not as pressing as people resolving their money issues, it's still certainly of importance. See, that's not really fair, because we were drawn into her personal life. This wasn't something she kept on the back-burner. She was telling everyone she met, including the band we all know and love, things that are potentially entirely false. It's not like we're snooping around in her personal affairs, trying to find ways to prove she's a bad person. She pretty much did that on her own. We were all led to believe plenty of things that are allegedly completely untrue, and it's not fair to tell people who want some kind of closure from that to go somewhere else.

Hopefully those weren't in the same box in her garage as the pictures from the club in Tampa from 1991.

I totally fell in love with this one..

If Dawn is watching this thread, i urge you to come forward and shed some light for all for us. It's the fairest thing to do. Ok, update for you guys. I've been in touch with Kat and she is in touch with Dawn. Kat is only able to access this by her phone at the moment, so she is going to post here tomorrow with some explanations for all of us. I think this could be a big step in the right direction to getting to a positive resolution with all of this.

GDC Day. Regarding the cancer and the hair: At the Tiki Bar show my friend stood behind her (and had also sat next to her back in Feb at Johns Pizza in NYC) I texted her and asked about Dawns hair at the Tiki Bar and she said it was long and she had a wig on. The exact same wig she had on in NYC when we were at the musical. (which would have been before she was diagnosed) And I said how do you know it was a wig? she said I kinda rubbed the top of her head to get her attention, so I could tell her her hair was pretty. She said Dawn looked at her gave her a dirty look and turned back around.

Other pic from the Austin gig =)

I want to add that i think there is a danger that Dawn is vilified for this, when it's possible that she had good intentions and never went out to purposely scam people for money. I do believe she is very sick and that is a big contributor to all of this.

Someone put a comment on YouTube for When I Come Around: "Well, I heard it all before. Sell donuts at my door." It so sounds like that.

some "water",little sweat, and lot of beer