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I think Ordinary World is ok but I think it’s an effective calmer and closer after all the frantic madness that went before. Don’t think the album would be degraded without it.

Correct. Forever Now, and especially that last part (😮‍💨), is simply amazing and a very strong closer. I like Ordinary World, and to "break off" the theme/sound compared to the rest of the album is imo a nice way to end the record. Didn't know that so many in here didn't like that song, but hey, some people like Nightlife, and who are we to judge 😅

Did I read somewhere once that Still Breathing was written by BJA with someone else in mind but then decided to make it a Green Day song? It's for sure a pretty "safe" album, but I don't think you can blame them given they expressed regret over the Trilogy being prolific for the sake of it and the production on those albums being wide of the mark. I think it has some of BJA's strongest vocal performances. Forever Now is an all time HEATER and I have a big soft spot for Outlaws - the bridge in that song is one of the band's best. However Ordinary World is barely listenable. Strong contender for their worst ever song and drags the entire album down a few points just by existing. It would be a much better album listening experience if it ended on Forever Now which would've been their second-best album closer after Whatsername.

YES!!!!!😍 And almost short sleeves….

According to an IG story of Greendayinc, yes

Still doing that twice every day!👍

Sorry!! I interpreted your initial wording as meaning the song was underwhelming somehow, and jumped quickly to its defense, my bad! 😅 Framed like this I totally agree! (Tangent: I never managed to get into MCR in general, nor The Black Parade specifically when it came out. But I've seen so much hype around their tour right now, and reading you cite it here too, makes me feel like perhaps I should revisit it now)

Will this be live streamed?

I never said it wasn't a great song...? I said that it's a song that slowly lets the air out of the balloon, and if you really process everything going on in "Homecoming", that's exactly what it's there for. Years after the events of "Letterbomb" and "Homecoming" (in particular) tear the JOS to shreds mentally, emotionally and physically, it's a quiet moment of reflection on what might have been and why it's not. It's the coda. That's not a bad thing at all. The best album ever written (The Wall) has "Outside the Wall" after the massive, climactic "The Trial" brings the album's narrative crashing down. Literally, if you've ever seen it performed live. The Black Parade has "Blood" hidden after "Famous Last Words"...and it still doesn't answer the question of whether The Patient lived or died. Queen stuck the short, quiet, introspective acoustic "Is This the World We Created?" at the end of The Works, right after the massive guitar explosion that is "Hammer to Fall". There are all kinds of other examples out there of a band putting a quieter ballad after the massive big finish song on their album, allowing a few minutes for...well...for the air to escape the balloon. If the song before it carries enough weight to earn that type of coda, it works beautifully. Green Day is one of the best at doing that.

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When it's Labor Day and Forever Now gets stuck in your head

Bang bang needs to be the opener in concerts that song rocks live I wish they didn’t drop it

Howdy friends! There's a particular magazine scan I'm looking for I need some help sourcing. It's from November 15th 1994 in Denver, Colorado (linked below for reference). It's a snap of Billie with his striped "Mark" shirt on and blonde hair. For the life of me, I can't recall the magazine it came out of but it was a full page image. I had it saved years ago, but lost it to time. Any help is appreciated, thank you! Tour date in question: Billie at the show:

Floof, dirty blonde, eyeliner, shirt a little open….. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOEeHRejV8m/?igsh=MWcwbmNzaHIwd200cw== 🔥🔥🔥

Solid album! Great songs I can listen repeatedly: Bouncing of the wall, Bang Bang, Outlaws, Trubled Times, Forever Now, Too Dumb too Die and maybe... Stil Breathing Songs I like less - Youngblood, Say Goodbye, Revolution Radio, Somewhere Now. I don't like Ordinary World. To me this song is just mawkish and corny. Doesn't fit with the rest of the album. The same feeling I had with Still Breathing (but SB has really grown on me much)

I'd love to see this live: Only Of You 409 In Your Coffeemaker Panic Song Brain Stew/Jaded Platypus (I Hate You) Take Back Desensitized I Want To Be On TV Ha Ha You're Dead Bang Bang Revolution Radio Alternatively, this would be cool: Words I Might Have Ate F.O.D. Warning Misery Macy's Day Parade Boulevard Of Broken Dreams Give Me Novacaine Wake Me Up When September Ends

I love it

I wanna play. in an ideal universe where time, stamina and pleasing casual listeners are not constraints, and cows are a perfect sphere (physics book joke): 1. 1000 Hours (because this is how long the show is gonna be, it's a fitting song to open with ) 2. Going to Pasalacqua 3. Paper Lanterns 4. 2000 Light Years Away 5. 80 6. Who Wrote the Holden Caulfield? 7. Burnout 8. She 9. F.O.D. 10. Armatage Shanks 11. Brat 12. 86 13. No Pride 14. Panic Song 15. Redundant 16. Scattered 17. Desensitized 18. Haha You're Dead 19. Good Riddance (what can I say, it's a good closer ... before the first encore) ----- 1st Encore ----- 20. Blood Sex and Booze 21. Deadbeat Holiday 22. Macy's Day Parade 23. Minority 24. Black Eyeliner 25. Lowlife 26. Everyone's Breaking Down 27 - 39. American Idiot in full ----- 2nd Encore ---- 40. 21st Century Break Down 41. Peacemaker 42. American Eulogy 43. Stay the Night 44. Lazy Bones 45. Brutal Love 46. Dirty Rotten Bastards 47. Holy Toledo 48. Revolution Radio 49. Say Goodbye 50. Too Dumb To Die 51. Forever Now 52. Father of all... 53. Oh Yeah 54. Bobby Sox 55. Dilemma 56. Strange Days are here to stay 57. Saviors 58. Fancy Sauce The order can change within each album except: Good Riddance has to close the first part of the show. American Idiot has to be played in full and in order, with Whatsername being the last song of the 2nd part Fancy Sauce has to close the show. Only 11 songs longer than their longest show on record -- I tried to restrain myself EDIT: Only 14 songs longer than their longest show on record (I had missed an album! I'm too embarrassed to admit which one 😅

The exact same thing happend to me and my gf - we were the only ones jumping around and singing to OEB where we stood 😂

This is hilarious . I love it though and glad there's no noticeable autotune. Yes please live album! I loved seeing this song live so much, the people around us weren't singing the new songs and it was me and my sister jumping up and down shouting bada bing bada boom lol

Excuse me? Whatsername is a perfect song to close a perfect album. Macy's Day Parade and Fancy Sauce are the only other closers in Green Day albums that come anywhere near. No arguments here though

When I say I forgot all about this song and I haven't listened to it in years, I mean it. I love it

Yeah they removed it because of the lyrics. In the booklet it's printed in the credits with the other tracks but "spray painted" over Don't think I've ever heard anyone say they don't love Shenanigans! It's awesome

I don't think Ordinary World would have worked anywhere else on the album though. I was fine with it as a "let the air out of the balloon" closer like Whatsername or See the Light, or what Good Riddance does at the end of shows. It really doesn't fit the album, which is to be expected for a standalone single that gets tossed in there because it's recorded already (except Under Pressure, which is just a perfect song in every way). It does serve its purpose at the end, and while it's not up to Good Riddance or Macy's Day Parade levels, it's far from a bad song.