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I think you’re conflating critiques with negativity. As many issues as I personally have with the band’s material since RevRad, there’s still a lot to like when you look through that lens. In other words, someone can admit a song is bad on its own merit but still enjoy it for what it is (me with the entirety of Dos)

Yeah, I think you are right. I think they probably wrote a bunch of songs for 1972, and few made it to Saviors but most got scrapped and now we are getting them this way.

I actually had that exact thought. What if these and some of the songs from Saviors were supposed to be the original album, as I can't really imagine most of these songs on the main album. Same with Fever and aren't One Eyed Bastard and Corvette Summer slightly older? Those 3 would fit with these songs better. I have always liked One Eyed Bastard ever since the leak, I like it more than about half of the songs. Gotta watch the video now.

I already posted this video in the Saviors deluxe edition thread, but I wanted to put it here too becuase we need to talk about what a babe Billie is in this video. Like seriously, how does he keep getting more babelicious by the day?

I wonder if maybe some of these songs were from the scrapped 1972 project? Like these got tossed aside when they decided to go in the direction that ultimately became Saviors? Also, I don't think anyone has posted this new video we just got for One Eyed Bastard? I still love this song and now I love this video.

Also these songs don't sound like Savious much. It's almost like a half new album a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are a bit older like perhaps Underdog from around The Longshot era.

Wouldn't necessarily say this about r/greenday. Green Day fans like to complain about everything, and I have found that to be true in that sub as well. I love Green Day and I love this fan base, but we have a tendency to be negative about everything: the band, their music, each other, etc. Compare r/greenday against a place like r/falloutboy, and there is a noticeable difference in vibes. Having said all of that, I wish we got a little more out of this deluxe edition, but I still like most of the extra songs. I can see why they didn't make the original album though, becuase the original version of Saviors is a masterpiece as is.

Stay Young sounds interesting, because despite the little American Idiot vibe, it doesn't sound that much like Green Day. It's like if GD had released C&V and released an alternative rock record in 05 with bunch of sad rock ballads..

I feel the same way about this. In all honesty, one could maybe sympathize with these folks in 2016, but after everything we have been through since, it's pretty hard to have sympathy for anyone who is still supporting Trump now. I just love it whenever Billie takes on current events and really busts out the attitude. I think he did a great job with that on Saviors and it is great to see even more of it in these bonus tracks.

Not sure the new video really adds anything but I like to see them too. Agree with @pacejunkie punk that the guy was a paedophile or abuser. Loved Billie’s shirt, another one with lots of text like his one last weekend.

Oh I definitely don’t blindly praise everything, and I’m not against discussion, I guess I’m just not massively negative and don’t feel the need to discuss if i dislike something in the same way a lot of people do. I’d rather spend my energy on stuff i like and I can’t be the only one who thinks on here that more often than not people are just moaning cause they can haha

I'm one of those fans that liked here comes the shock after that father of all fiasco

Billie going "stick your Bible and shove it up-" and cutting himself off is so funny I like Suzie Chapstick acoustic but it's pretty similar to the album version. I prefer this Father to a Son isn't one of my favourites but I much prefer the vocals on the acoustic version, they sound weird and nasal on the album. The low key guitar suits the song much better than a full on orchestra too

Meh Green Day trying to be genuinely scary/menacing is just ridiculous to me and the masks are hideous so I prefer the cute video with Mickey Mouse lol. Billie's outfit is fabulous though Feels like a weak/unfinished idea of just literally showing some evil mobster stuff happening to someone to go with the lyrics and then I guess the kids are supposed to be a twist. Kind of lame

I hope the guy they buried was a pedophile, that was my takeaway after seeing his captors were little kids. At first I thought they were gonna bury the poor SOB alive but they didn’t go quite that far. Wild video, very reminiscent of a classic 80’s vid that tells a story I got drawn into it. The guys look great in the performance bits I always appreciate when they’re included

I really like Stay Young and Underdog, I always love acoustic versions as somehow they sound more personal and Fuck Off just made me laugh and think well somebody pissed you off that day Billie 😂 I already love Ballyhoo.

Maybe it’s Billie’s response to the people that hated HCTS 😄

Having listened to extra songs, time to listen to whole record as the band intended, I'm just along for the ride, willingly. Record on turntable, speakers full blast (hello neighbors), I hour, 7 mins. Let's go fuckin' crazy jumping up and down from TADIKM to Underdog. 🤪

Weird video. Don’t get the point.

They can drive? They look like they are 15 years old wtf, strange video 😅

Underdog is actually growing on me a fair bit. I'd definitely say it's the best of the 5 new songs. Probably a hot take cus some people seem to think it's the worst (or close to it) The song Fuck Off seems to be interesting lyrically because it seems to be targeted at Trump supporters, which I think is sort of a contrast to how he spoke about Trump supporters back around the first Trump term where he seemed to be somewhat sympathetic to their concerns even if he was completely against Trump. But I understand why he'd now be like "If you still think Trump is on your side after how much he's fucked everything up, just fuck off"

I swear it sounds like Fuck Off and Here Comes the Shock are the same song with different lyrics.

I immediately thought of this classic performance! "Hey, some kid just got up on stage"

I could see him doing that deliberately as a musical inside joke

OK Stay Young and Underdog are pretty interesting! Stay Young is really great musically and Underdog is cool. Lyrics are like Minority part 2 and "I wanna be your underdog" has to be a nod to Iggy. And the guitar part is sick. Although Billie isn't fooling anyone calling himself ugly lol