CreatureQuake Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 To me it seems as though Green Day's best albums have come out every 10 years or so. I mean look at Dookie (one of their best albums) in 1994, then in 2004 - ten years later, American Idiot (arguably one of their best albums). Maybe it's a result of burnout and buildup, who knows. But the third ten year mark is presumably their next album.We all saw Billie Joe's Instagram post a couple of weeks back hinting at Green Day's return in 2015. This is most likely an album due to the fact that Green Day albums usually come out on average every 2-3 years (with their longest gap between albums being five years, AI - 21CB) and the trilogy being released 3 years ago in 2015. So if 2015 does bring us a new Green Day album, I'm just hoping it's going to be one of the better ones, up there with Dookie and American Idiot, according to the theory above. What are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Past events have proven this to be cyclical on more than just the ten year breakout - there's the great success (Dookie/AI), the success to a lesser degree (Insomniac & Nimrod/21CB), the comparatively unsuccessful (Warning/Trilogy) with a compilation 2 years later (Shenanigans/Demolicious), then the comeback. So, yes, I think whatever happens next will be a return to greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'd love for Green Day to make another record on a level with AI, but I just don't think they've got it in them, unless they expand musically. I'd like to be proven wrong though.I do think they're capable of making a record with moderate-to-good levels of success, and I'd like to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Billie Joe's interview in Rolling Stone pretty much covers the question of what they've got planned (so far) for next year. Are you thinking you might start writing or recording next year?I think of next year as us kind of regrouping and getting together more. I want to make sure that everyone's head is in the right place and wants to start doing it again. I think this is a great time for us to reflect. With the Hall of Fame here, we can look back with gratitude and reflect with gratitude without feeling like it's some nostalgic trip.We've always kept moving forward, no matter what. That's exhausting. Also, Mike's wife is just recovering from breast cancer. And [touring guitarist] Jason White [who was recently diagnosed with tonsil cancer] is going through the same battle right now. We need to be there for each other in a different way rather than standing next to each other and playing really loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Platypus! Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 As much as I'd love this to happen, I don't think it will. AI was a massive record that a vast amount of people liked. But it came just after the early 00's when punk rock was quite big (correct me if I'm wrong). Now there just doesn't seem to be any sort of substantial fan base behind rock in the mainstream. If AI was released now I doubt it would get the same recognition it did due to the music industry changing so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 this could be true, if green day and music was a science. however, it's more of an art form and therefore ignores any rules regarding theories of when the good music comes out. basically, if it's going to be good, it'll be good and if it's going to be shit, it's going to be shit. either way, it'll have to be an exceptionally solid album to break into the mainstream at the moment. as mr playtpus stated above, rock doesn't have anything behind it to push it out onto the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idlewild. Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 All it's gonna be is more overproduced poorly written trilogy-like midlife crisis-core that'll receive some attention initially, but will be completely forgotten in a week. As much as I'd love this to happen, I don't think it will. AI was a massive record that a vast amount of people liked. But it came just after the early 00's when punk rock was quite big (correct me if I'm wrong). Now there just doesn't seem to be any sort of substantial fan base behind rock in the mainstream. If AI was released now I doubt it would get the same recognition it did due to the music industry changing so much. Ahahahaha u wot m8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Platypus! Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Ahahahaha u wot m8 When was the last time you heard a mainstream radio station rave about a rock album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 All it's gonna be is more overproduced poorly written trilogy-like midlife crisis-core that'll receive some attention initially, but will be completely forgotten in a week. I actually don't think we'll ever get something quite as midlife-crisis-like as the Trilogy - after having done it, they'll have reflected on it, thought about it, and they'll come back stronger with something meaningful to say. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idlewild. Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 When was the last time you heard a mainstream radio station rave about a rock album? But why the fuck would anyone listen to the radio in 2014? Seriously, you can get Pandora/Spotify/Last.fm/What have you practically anywhere. You don't have to let some radio DJ dictate what you listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mato Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Again with the term 'overproduced'.. It doesn't even mean anything. I'd really like to hear what people associate that word with (presuming people actually KNOW what 'producing' means and what the whole process consists of). Just another example of people hearing nonsense words and then using them thinking they'll sound smart, cool or whatever, while they actually don't know shit what they're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 When was the last time you heard a mainstream radio station rave about a rock album? New Foo Fighters record getting a lot of (well-deserved, IMHO) positive attention in this market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Platypus! Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 But why the fuck would anyone listen to the radio in 2014? Seriously, you can get Pandora/Spotify/Last.fm/What have you practically anywhere. You don't have to let some radio DJ dictate what you listen to. I'm not saying I do, but AI was all over the radio, MTV everywhere. Meaning that it got more success due to more people hearing it. Nowadays rock doesn't get the same publicity meaning there is a decline in sales of rock records no matter how good the record actually is. New Foo Fighters record getting a lot of (well-deserved, IMHO) positive attention in this market. Every now and then there is records yes but it is rare that you do hear of them. My point was that the fan base for rock has dwindled in the past 5-6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 But why the fuck would anyone listen to the radio in 2014? Seriously, you can get Pandora/Spotify/Last.fm/What have you practically anywhere. You don't have to let some radio DJ dictate what you listen to. many people who drive listen to the radio, because it's a hell of a lot easier than trying to hook up your phone every time you want to drive somewhere. also some people don't always want to pick and would rather have some conversation and music on. it's also on in shops, bars and other public places, so songs get into peoples heads. just because you don't, doesn't mean everyone doesn't. radio is still a massive factor in what sells well (especially here in the UK). if a song is constantly exposed on it, and people hear it regularly, chances are they will buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idlewild. Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'm not saying I do, but AI was all over the radio, MTV everywhere. Meaning that it got more success due to more people hearing it. Nowadays rock doesn't get the same publicity meaning there is a decline in sales of rock records no matter how good the record actually is. Record sales in general have decreased, dude. Doesn't matter what genre. And it still isn't hard to find good rock music. Just turn off the TV/Radio and look around a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Platypus! Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Record sales in general have decreased, dude. Doesn't matter what genre. And it still isn't hard to find good rock music. Just turn off the TV/Radio and look around a little. I'm not saying I find it hard , but you can't expect Green Day to release an album and it reach the heights of Dooke/AI anymore. It would have to be completely ground breaking and something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 New Foo Fighters record getting a lot of (well-deserved, IMHO) positive attention in this market. The only reason FF get crazy hype is because Dave Grohl is insanely good at PR and has this incredible cult of personality. You can't escape Foo Fighters, they're on chat shows, radio, hell they even have their own TV show. It's all gone towards telling people how amazing this album is, when in fact it's just a very generic FF album from a very generic band who routinely fail to release more than a couple of good songs per album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 we've had this kind of topic a lot over the past year. or maybe i'm just seeing this on every other fucking social media i use. i highly, highly doubt that Green Day will tour or release anything new within the next year. they may start writing further into 2015, but i can't see them doing anything together for a while simply because of how much is going on in their personal lives. there is no science or anything to this stuff, it just so happens that Dookie & AI were very successful albums. i do think their next album is going to be a big step up from the Trilogy (even though I love Dos with all my heart), as they used that as their 'fuck the lot of ye, we're gunna make a ridiculous bunch of songs because we fucking can', which probably got a lot of shit out for them. but yeah i can't see them releasing anything until 2016 at the absolute earliest. and personally, i'm hoping they don't tour until late 2016, early 2017 either. partially because i need time to fucking save up, and also they seem to be benefiting a lot from this kinda time out, more chance to spend time with their families & get on with their other passions. like Billie & his acting. but uhm, yeah basically no i can't see anything happening in the GD world for a good while. nothing new, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Record sales in general have decreased, dude. Doesn't matter what genre. And it still isn't hard to find good rock music. Just turn off the TV/Radio and look around a little. You are pedantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 There's only been one ten year gap between significant Green Day albums and the next 10 year gap is over in a couple of weeks, so to be honest I don't think there's really much significance between 10 years and Green Day albums. They'll make a new album when they're ready to make one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Platypus! Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 There's only been one ten year gap between significant Green Day albums and the next 10 year gap is over in a couple of weeks, so to be honest I don't think there's really much significance between 10 years and Green Day albums. They'll make a new album when they're ready to make one. What if Green Day have a pre-recorded album, and they recorded it back before the problems in their family lives started, and they're going to release it new year's eve just to keep up the ten year tradition, and the album goes 20x platinum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 What if Green Day have a pre-recorded album, and they recorded it back before the problems in their family lives started, and they're going to release it new year's eve just to keep up the ten year tradition, and the album goes 20x platinum. I'd be pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haushinka! Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I was thinking the same thing regarding the 10 year mark, but as Hermione mentioned, the 10 year gap is almost over. Looking back though, I loved and enjoyed every single album released until American Idiot. Which is pretty amazing. Not many bands can successfully create that many albums in a row that kick ass. I don't know what to expect with their new album. I wouldn't get your hopes up and wish for another American Idiot or Dookie. I'll be happy as long as it is a step above the Trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 They missed this 10 year mark 2015 would make it 11 years... (And again the trilogy wasn't overproduced...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idlewild. Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 You are pedantic I knew there had to be a word for it. Thanks I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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