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Dos should have been more stripped down, a la "garage rock"


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#1 nah

 
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:34 AM

When Billie Joe said that Dos was going to be very "garagey" and the sequel to FBHT, I was expecting a lot more.

 

The only garage sounding moments were the solo in "Fuck TIme", Makeout Party, Baby Eyes  and Wow! That's Loud.

 

Am I the only that feels that way? Honestly surprised to see the other tracks on the album there. 

 

I would have loved to see more psychedelic shit found on "Stop, Drop, and Roll!!!" on here, but sadly, that was only loosely found on Wow! That's Loud!


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:35 AM

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It's too polished


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:36 AM

It's still garagy, it's just different eras of that style of music. And Baby Eyes is far from garage rock. The sound is a little too polished, but overall I think it works. 


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:41 AM

It's too polished

YES!

 

They carried the over-production of 21st Century Breakdown, which I LOVED, to the trilogy, which I think is a bad move, especially when it comes to Dos, when it's supposed to be their most stripped down music. 


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:55 AM

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I'm sorry, I don't know how much more stripped down you can get with Green Day than ONLY TWO RHYTHM GUITAR TRACKS. I mean, you could only have one guitar playing everything (rhythm parts, solos, the whole nine yards), but that would sound too hollow and hollow's not the band's forté. And as for the "polished" and "over-produced" sound of the record(s), that can simply be attributed to Chris Lord-Alge's mixing style. He just likes to mix big. Nothing wrong with that.

 

But nonetheless, the music sounds plenty garagey! Stray Heart's very vintage, same with Stop When The Red Lights Flash. How about Wild One, which is something you'd expect to hear at a 1950's Sadie Hawkins dance. And you can't get much more vintage and bluesy than Lady Cobra! That song's basically a Chuck Berry song on steroids!! True, there are a couple not-very-vintage songs like Baby Eyes, Ashley, and Nightlife, but overall, it's very vintage and garage-rock.

 

And also keep in mind Billie was talking about it being "garage rock sounding" in relation to the other two records, so in that respect, he's right.


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:05 AM

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Lady Cobra, IMO. There's something about the quality of BJA's voice even, that sounds fuzzy and unfinished. In a good way.


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:13 AM

I really think the production is much better on the trilogy than on 21CB, but you guys are right. It's like loosely described as garage rock, I guess, would be cool if there was more, but it is put together to best fit the theme.



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:16 AM

I think this applies more so to Uno. Dos could have been much more raw, but it was fine where it was. If I could have changed anything in this trilogy it would have been Uno's mix, not songs. It was a bit over produced. Again, I don't think they should have gone with Rob for this one. He's too close to the band and has worked with them on way to much to allow them to branch out more.



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:13 AM

That really would have just changed Dos from "tacky" to "trying too hard to be tacky." 


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:26 AM

As I see it there's a big pool of classic Green Day pop-punk tunes that are distributed throughout the three records, and then some characteristic songs from each of them, creating the "themes" of the records. So every song on iDos! doesn't have to be garage rock in order for the record to be persistant to its theme. I do agree though, that the only song that sounds like it could've been on Stop, Drop And Roll is 'Wow! That's Loud', perhaps partially 'Fuck Time' and 'Makeout Party'.


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:12 AM

You really can't shut up about how much you dislike ¡Dos! can you. :P

 

(No insult intended)


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:06 AM

Feed back, vocal filters, bass fuzz, our boy Billie Joe practically spitting out every lyric, and sections of total chaos (last minutes of Wow! That's Loud and the solo in Lady Cobra) lead me to say that it is MORE garage-y than Stop, Drop, and Roll!!!. But that's just me. I think Dos! is Green Day at their most creative and brutal, and I like it. 


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:18 AM

I don't think the difference between Dos and Stop, Drop & Roll lies in the polished nature, or the fact that it wasn't 'stripped down' (which it was; SD&R had plenty of interesting accompaniments). The albums are just in two different genres. I'd class Dos as a culmination of Garage Rock over the past few decades, while I'd call SD&R more of a 60s Rock n' Roll record.


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:26 AM

Dos needs more saxophone. That's all I'll say.


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:35 AM

You really can't shut up about how much you dislike ¡Dos! can you. :P

 

(No insult intended)

Muahar, to me Dos ist still the best album of the trilogy. But I also do think it´s too "clean".



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:36 AM

That song's basically a White Stripes song!!

 

FTFY



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:18 AM

I really could care less about production and all that shit (aslong as it's good quality obviously) Honestly, I don't like the FBHT record, oh wait, sorry. I like 2 songs "Highway 1" and "Stop, Drop and Roll" When Billie announced it was gonna sound like FBHT, I was gutted (bought the album, like the good fan I am :P) and I loved it, there's something rocking and balls-out about it. SWTRLF and Lady Cobra are the most garage-y sounding songs on there, for me anyways.


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:36 AM

Couldve Wouldve Shouldve.... thats all im hearing 


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:56 AM

Ring up the boys and tell them that.. they would love to hear id say :P



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:17 AM

Yea well Stop Drop and Roll had songs that were too simple for Green Day. It has to be more meaningful, more complexed..

Since Nimrod there's no album in which all songs sound similar, and I think it's much better this way.



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:31 AM


Cool story, bro

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:33 AM

C'mon man it's like when Green Day did Insaomniac it wasn't as PunkRock as Dookie but anyway it was Punk Rock



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

they should have recorded the full album on a 4 track like they did with Dark Side Of Night!  :D



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:39 AM

I agree, I think it was somehow overproduced (too polished as Cameron said) and there wasn't enough "noise" going on XD

I still love it! But not even close to the way I love Stop Drop and Roll!



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:54 AM

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C'mon man it's like when Green Day did Insaomniac it wasn't as PunkRock as Dookie but anyway it was Punk Rock

 

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:13 AM

They should just re recored the whole thing yknow.



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:16 AM

Dos need more saxophone. That's all I'll say.

Yes!



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:28 AM

In my opinion, ¡Dos! is too polished & too clean to be considered as a garage rock record.

Some songs are built as garage songs: F*** Time, Makeout Party, Lady Cobra & Wow! That's Loud. Maybe Stray Heart could fill with a more noisy song and I agree Stop When Red Lights Flash could work. 

I was expecting better when the band described the records.

 

But maybe the polished sound is due to the fact that the band is signed with a major label. Maybe the label refused a garage rock sound because it's Green Day and because the band is one of the bands who sells the more in the label.



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:32 PM

C'mon man it's like when Green Day did Insaomniac it wasn't as PunkRock as Dookie but anyway it was Punk Rock


Dookie is not punk Insomniac is the most punk album they've done


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:29 PM

Dookie is not punk Inspmniac us the most punk album they've done

 

????

 

Dookie is a punk record. Lifted straight out of the Berkeley scene man! 

 

But yeah, in a traditional hardcore sense, Insomniac is the most punk sounding thing they've done. But in a traditional 70's punk sense and the East Bay punk sense Dookie is a punk rock record. 


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